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Re: Backup

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On Sat, 6/7/2025 4:01 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2025/6/7 17:10:47, NFN Smith wrote:
>> pablito wrote:
>>> Is it possible to configure TB to do an automatic backup at a certain time ?
>>> TNX
>>
>> Not within Thunderbird.  For that, the best bet is with some sort of external tool that supports scheduling.
> 
> (Would be a good thing for the dev.s to add - especially to avoid the "running" aspect, and for those less savvy who don't know about things like %APPDATA%.)>
>> If you're working in Windows, what you want to get backed up is the contents of %APPDATA%\Thunderbird.  You don't have to copy to a different drive, just another location locally, although it's a good idea to make sure that Thunderbird is closed when you do it, so that you're not trying to make backups of open files.
> 
> While we're stuck with using something external, is there some simple command (that could be put in a batch file) that will tell TB to shut itself down cleanly? (I envisage the batch file - which could then be scheduled - having the shutdown command, if we can contrive one, followed by the backup instruction.)>
>> Smith
>>
> 
> 

https://superuser.com/questions/959364/on-windows-how-can-i-gracefully-ask-a-running-program-to-terminate

    taskkill /im notepad.exe     # graceful (see if Notepad asks to save edited changes? It does ask.)
                                 # Maybe a Draft window will stay open on Thunderbird if you try this?

    taskkill /f /im notepad.exe  # should drop notepad like a rock, even with changes present.
                                 # Don't do this to thunderbird. Naughty.

Check how many processes Thunderbird runs, before doing this.
There could be an issue with parents or children. In some
contexts, the difference between "kill" and "killall" handles
this, but I don't know if Windows has that. Sending the signal
to the parent for example, should be enough to stop a Firefox team.
You can use Sysinternals Process Explorer, which uses a nested listing,
the parent is left-most, the children are indented, and this makes
it easy to figure out who is the PPID (Parent Process ID).

Processes should have a PID (who am I?) and a PPID (who is my parent?).
The parent of a process, should eventually be the equivalent of INIT(1)
or so. Some process is considered the "first parent". You would
not try to kill the first parent, as that could cause your session
to drop or something.

Those are some concepts, still some details to flush out.

But generally, this topic has rough edges, and who knows what will happen.

   Paul

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Backup pablito <abc@abc.bom> - 2025-06-07 12:23 +0200
  Re: Backup NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 09:10 -0700
    Re: Backup "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-07 21:01 +0100
      Re: Backup Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-07 18:00 -0400
      Re: Backup NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-06-08 21:03 -0700
        Re: Backup Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-09 00:39 -0400
          Re: Backup "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-09 11:52 +0100
            Re: Backup Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-09 14:09 -0400
    Re: Backup Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-07 16:04 -0400
  Re: Backup "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-06-07 09:22 -0700
  Re: Backup "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-06-07 16:38 -0400
    Re: Backup "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-08 00:10 +0200
      Re: Backup Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-07 18:20 -0400
        Re: Backup "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-06-07 18:29 -0400
        Re: Backup Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-08 04:21 +0100
          Re: Backup Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-06-08 00:13 -0400

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