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Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA

From bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Newsgroups talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics
Subject Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA
Date 2025-06-04 10:21 +0000
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>>>>>> | Trump's attack on science is growing fiercer and more
>>>>>> | indiscriminate

> | World Scientists Look Elsewhere as U.S. Labs Stagger Under
> | Trump Cuts

 | ... 
 | They're easy to summarize. Everything gets gutted. The NIH
 | and all its parts (such as the Centers for Disease Control
 | and Prevention), the National Science Foundation, the
 | National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (including
 | the National Weather Service), NASA. . .everything is
 | slashed in ways that no budget has ever slashed them
 | before. The NIH, for example, would see its budget cut by
 | nearly 40%, back to the levels of over twenty years ago,
 | and see many of its institutes closed and consolidated. The
 | NSF budget would be cut by 50%.  NASA would see all sort of
 | facilities and observatories closed, and a number of
 | missions just completely abandoned. NOAA's budget would be
 | cut by 24%. It goes on.
 | 
 | These cuts will do very little to the overall federal
 | budget by themselves, as I detailed here. They are all part
 | of the administration's agenda to cripple federally funded
 | R&D; that goal overrides any talk about spending. The
 | attacks on universities, on grant costs, on foreign
 | research students here in the US: all of these will work
 | together to strangle the greatest engine of research
 | discovery the world has ever seen. Whether the US can
 | recover its leadership role in the sciences, where it has
 | been since at least World War II, is an open question.
 | Germany threw away its own world scientific leadership in
 | the 1930s and in the subsequent war, and we can do it, too.
 | ...
<https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/continuing-crisis-part-xv-horrendous-trump-budget>

    --bks

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Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Anonymous <anon@anon.net> - 2025-04-01 00:51 -0400
  Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-01 09:42 -0400
    Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-01 21:00 -0700
    Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Anonymous <anon@anon.net> - 2025-04-02 00:11 -0400
  Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-01 15:50 -0400
    Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Anonymous <anon@anon.net> - 2025-04-02 00:12 -0400
      Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 02:21 -0400
        Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Anonymous <anon@anon.net> - 2025-04-03 23:36 -0400
          Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-29 00:26 +0000
            Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-04-29 01:56 +0000
              Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 06:15 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-04-29 13:01 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-29 09:02 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-02 13:08 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 21:55 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-06 02:35 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-05 23:17 -0700
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-06 07:01 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-07 01:07 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-15 14:56 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-17 22:29 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-22 11:20 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-22 07:43 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-22 13:20 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 17:58 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 18:20 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-23 07:05 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Barth Gimble <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-05-24 11:37 -0700
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-24 17:50 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-28 12:23 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-31 11:47 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-04 10:21 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-10 11:37 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:24 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-13 18:52 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 01:30 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 08:59 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-13 16:45 -0700
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-13 19:30 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-14 13:41 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-14 13:52 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-14 10:24 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:52 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-15 07:46 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-15 00:34 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:48 -0400
                Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-14 20:27 -0700
            Re: Trump Wants The End Of Science In The USA NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-29 07:27 -0400

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