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Re: Crimping tool, odd review

From Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Crimping tool, odd review
Date 2025-05-29 11:49 +0100
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On 2025-05-28 18:20, Poblano wrote:
> On 5/28/25 07:37, Java Jive wrote:
>> Please excuse the Linux/Windows cross-post, this is a general question 
>> about networking gear.
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying a CAT-Crimper, and was looking at this model ...
>>
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Through-Ethernet-Crimping-Connectors-Stripper/ dp/B0DLNV7KDB>
>>
>> ... for which the reviews are mostly very good, but I was a little 
>> taken aback by this one ...
>>
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B0DLNV7KDB/ 
>> ref=cm_cr_getr_d_paging_btm_next_3?pageNumber=3>
> 
> Amazon needs me to sign in before I'm allowed to see it.
> No.

Yes, some of us here from different countries have encountered that sort 
of problem before, it's ridiculous.

>> Michael Howe
>> 2.0 out of 5 stars Not suitable for gigabit WiFi.
>> Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 17 March 2025
>> Model: CHZHHYF Verified Purchase
>> Product worked as intended, but I have gigabit internet and all the 
>> cables I made are limited to 100mbps.
>>
>> ... I'm thinking, surely the cable and connector combination should be 
>> what limits the result to Fast Ethernet, 100Mbps, not what crimper was 
>> used?  Perhaps he means that the connectors supplied are not fully 
>> populated, and so reduced to 100Mbps?
>>
>> What are others' thoughts?
> 
> Michael Howe wasn't much help.
> 
> Gary might have something useful.
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1MJCVUNADEURX/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0DLNV7KDB
> 
> " ...it cut everything flush but the tool doesn't compress fully 
> resulting in the gold pins not being forced into the sheath of the 
> individual data wires. This means all looks fine but the cable is not 
> acknowledged and won't send data."

Yes, I saw that review as well, but Michael Howe's raised the alarming 
possibility, that hadn't previously occurred to me, that the tool may 
only be suitable for making Fast Ethernet, 100Mbps, connections  - 
perhaps because it wouldn't crimp all the pairs in Cat5e/6 cables  - 
but nevertheless was being sold as suitable for Gigabit Ethernet, 
1000Mbps, connections.*

However, the general consensus seems to be that the difficulties with 
more modern designations of cable are that they have somewhat thicker 
strands and won't fit easily into at least some, quite possibly all, of 
the plugs supplied in the kits, hence people getting sub-standard 
results.  Some have even suggested throwing the plugs from the kits away 
and buying better quality ones separately.

*  I jumped upon this particularly because 10-15 years ago, not long 
after the Gigabit standard became available, I was in the market for a 
Gigabit switch, and *NEARLY ALL* the so-called 'Gigabit' switches 
advertised on eBay were in fact only Fast Ethernet; a few were even just 
Ethernet, 10Mbps!  I got so fed up I spent quite a while reporting them 
all in an effort to make looking through the listings a little more 
manageable.

-- 

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: 
www.macfh.co.uk

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Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-28 15:37 +0100
  Re: Crimping tool, odd review Poblano <8minutes@450F.com> - 2025-05-28 10:20 -0700
    Re: Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-29 11:49 +0100
  Re: Crimping tool, odd review Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-28 19:20 +0100
    Re: Crimping tool, odd review Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 04:17 +0000
  Re: Crimping tool, odd review Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-05-28 19:29 +0100
  Re: Crimping tool, odd review Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-29 09:33 +0100
    Re: Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-29 12:04 +0100
      Re: Crimping tool, odd review Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-29 17:34 +0100
        Re: Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:22 +0100
          Re: Crimping tool, odd review Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-29 19:48 +0100
            Re: Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:02 +0100
              Re: Crimping tool, odd review Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-30 06:05 -0400
                Re: Crimping tool, odd review Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-30 14:10 +0000
              Re: Crimping tool, odd review Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-07-01 09:10 +0000
                Re: Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-01 18:46 +0100
                Re: Crimping tool, odd review "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-01 20:58 +0200
            Re: Crimping tool, odd review Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-29 22:55 +0000
              Re: Crimping tool, odd review Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-30 11:56 +0100
            Re: Crimping tool, odd review "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:20 +0200
  Re: Crimping tool, odd review Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-29 11:21 +0000
    Re: Crimping tool, odd review Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-05-29 12:38 +0100
    Re: Crimping tool, odd review "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:54 +0200

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