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Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology

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Date 2016-03-10 17:27 -0800
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Subject Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology
From James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com>

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On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 9:36:15 AM UTC-8, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus wrote:
> Due to the relatively large positive charge on the oxygen atom nucleus
> (8+) and the closeness of its electrons, the oxygen atom attracts
> electrons much more strongly (i.e. is much more electronegative) than
> the hydrogen atoms (1+). This results in a charge transfer from the
> hydrogen atoms towards the oxygen atom and, hence, the polarity of the
> water molecule.
> 
> Early 5-point molecular models, with explicit negative charge where
> the lone pairs are purported to be, fared poorly in describing
> hydrogen bonding, but more recent models show some promise. Although
> there is no apparent consensus of opinion [116], such descriptions of
> substantial sp3-hybridized lone pairs in the isolated water molecule
> should perhaps be avoided [117], as an sp2-hybridized structure (plus
> a pz orbital) is indicated.
> 
> The molecule H2O has 10 electrons associated, 8 from the oxygen atom
> and one each from the two hydrogen atoms.
> ==================================================
> 
> And all of the above backed up by 2517 peer-reviewed studies by people
> far smarter and saner than you, Moron.
> 
> SPNAK!
> 
> I bet you wish you could be right just once, huh, Moron.
> 
> <snicker>
> 
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=electronegativity+of+oxygen
> 
> >> Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
> >> phase and air have a molar volume
> 
> > Water in its gaseous phase doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law,
> > moron.  Do you know what steam tables are, and why sane
> > people use them?
> 
> You just love proving yourself to be a moron, don't you?
> 
> <http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/17362/what-type-of-substances-allows-the-use-of-the-ideal-gas-law>
> ========================================
> Pure water vapor at 1 atm and 373 K has Pr=1/217=0.0046, so the ideal
> gas law applies to within 10% error.
> 
> The ideal gas law is derived from a model (the ideal gas), and like
> every other model it applies where it's underling assumptions are good
> approximations to reality.


This kind of helps. But my question is can I use the ideal gas law with sauturated liquids or saturated vapors? – Greg Harrington Nov 23 '11 at 17:35
1	 	
The ideal gas does not exhibit any behaviors related to saturation and condensation, which makes it very risky to apply in any situation where those behaviors might matter. Note that just replacing it with the Van der Waals equation of state won't help unless you understand the thermodynamics of the situation. This is rather the point of my answer: you have to understand the conditions for validity of the models you're thinking of applying and you are responsible for checking that they are satisfied. – dmckee♦ Nov 23 '11 at 17:54 
  	 	
So how do I know when I should use the Ideal Gas Law? I was looking at examples in the book and there were times where I thought I could use it, and they don't end up using it. – Greg Harrington Nov 23 '11 at 17:55
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@Greg: "Is it true that I can use the ideal gas equation with pure liquids or pure gases?" - pure gases, yes; pure liquids, no. All that's needed is that the ideal gas assumptions should be "applicable" to the situation at hand. Usually, this means high temperatures (keeps the particles moving randomly) and low pressures (particles can be as far apart and noninteracting as possible). A liquid is a "gas" at low temperature and/or high pressure, so one requires a different equation of state. – user172 Nov 23 '11 at 23:58
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Liquids that exhibit a surface tension (that is, essentially all of them) fail the no inter-particle forces at mean distance test (because those inter-particle fores are responsible for the surface tension). – dmckee♦ Nov 24 '11 at 0:52

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Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:38 -0800
  Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:54 -0800
    Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-09 05:59 +0100
      Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 21:33 -0800
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        Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:56 -0800
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            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:52 -0800
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 01:54 +0800
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-11 10:14 -0800
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-03-11 18:52 +0000
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 17:27 -0800
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-03-10 20:35 -0600
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            Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 20:57 -0800
              Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-10 06:49 +0100
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 22:11 -0800
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 23:10 -0800
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:24 +0100
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 01:22 -0800
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 21:33 -0700
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                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 23:00 -0700
                Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 08:43 +0100
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