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In article <bLGdnfhq_9Fd8MnPnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2013.10.08 02:39 , Your Name wrote:
> > In article <192dnRfLXuGshs7PnZ2dnUVZ_oAAAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >> On 2013.10.07 02:10 , Your Name wrote:
> >>> In article <kbOdnehwaLZ_XczPnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> >>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> It's becoming less and less onerous to get the OS updates, less
> >>>> onerous to install, less onerous to "patch",  etc. - due of course
> >>>> to the web.
> >>>
> >>> Getting the constant updates is a pain-in-the-sit-upon for those on
> >>> dial-up connections or on data capped broadband plans.   :-(
> >>
> >> Can't help dial-up too much.  I believe Apple behave in an insensitive
> >> manner by no longer providing physical media to those who truly need it.
> >>    It wouldn't be that hard for them to contract out a few thousands
> >> disks to be made and mailed where needed.
> >>
> >> It is, OTOH, cheatable (start the update to pay for it and get someone
> >> to mail you an install disk or USB key) - but a PITA.  ISP data caps
> >> evolve.  I now get 150 GB/month for what I once paid for 10 GB/month...
> >
> > Yep, but the the size of the downloads also "evolves".
> >
> > Sometimes the cost of the broadband plan "evolves" as well. Broadband
> > plans at the start were about NZ$40 per month, now they're around NZ$70
> > at the cheapest.
> 
> Here the 'value' has gone up over time.  For roughly the same amount of 
> money I'd get 5X the bandwidth and cap now as when I first got a cable 
> modem back in the other millenium.
> 
> But since I've dropped cable television and cable based VOIP, I've 
> bumped up my speed and cap to 30 Mb/s and 150 GB/month - so a little 
> more, but far less than paying for television and phone as well.
> 
> Also I now have a true-intenet-VOIP (the least reliable landline option) 
> but it gives me free, unlimited North America long distance for about 
> $40 / year.

Data caps have grown here too, but then since the size of the files you
have to download has also grown, it's debateable whether you're
actually getting anything "extra".



> > In fact at the moment the New Zealand Government (via contracted
> > companies) is installing fibre lines all over the country, but they're
> > allowing the price of the copper-wire-based broadband plans to stay the
> > same, and the same as the new fibre plans. They claim it's because if
> > they lowered the price of copper broadband, then it would mean fewer
> > people would upgrade to fibre (which is what they been told by, you
> > guessed it, the companies installing the fibre cables!). That might
> > have some truth to it for some people, but it alos means people like me
> > aren't going to upgrade from dial-up to expensive fibre or over-priced
> > copper plans.
> 
> With a population of less than 5M it's going to be hard for NZ to have 
> broader competition.

There is no real competition. Telecom New Zealand via it's supposedlt
split-off company Chorus owns all the phonelines, all the exchanges,
and at least partly--owns the international cabling as well. So
basically they set the price all the ISP companies are stuck with.




> >>>> Well - that's the OS X side - I really have no idea how easy or not it
> >>>> is with Windows - I recall updating WinXP service packs and it was
> >>>> tedious.
> >>>>
> >>>> Last times I updated Linux it was very easy as well (and that's been a
> >>>> few years).
> >>>
> >>> Windows is even worse since you not only have the more numerous OS
> >>> patches and other software updates, but also the constant anti-virus
> >>> updates to download.
> >>
> >> A-V updates (definitions) are automatic with most A-V packages.  Yes,
> >> it's bandwidth, but not that you have to do anything.
> >
> > It is still something that has to be downloaded.
> 
> It's really negligible.

Depends on the anti-virus application. Some download just the new /
updated definitions, but others have to download fairly huge files. On
the old Windoze PC my mother used to have it used to take about 30 mins
to download each update via a dial-up connection.

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                Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-06 21:29 -0400
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                Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-08 16:43 -0400
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                Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 21:03 -0700
                Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-07 16:25 -0400
                Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-08 12:54 +0000
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          Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-06 20:42 -0400
            Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-07 01:55 +0000
              Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-07 08:32 -0400
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          Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-07 22:01 -0400
  Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 08:24 -0400
    Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-06 13:05 -0400
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        Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-08 19:17 -0400
  Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 08:28 -0400
    Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 15:32 -0400
      Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-06 15:58 -0400
        Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 19:10 +1300
          Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 08:26 -0700
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          Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-07 16:36 -0400
            Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-08 19:39 +1300
              Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-08 16:40 -0400
                Re: Top 10 paid Mac apps Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-09 13:38 +1300

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