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Re: modified EFE

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2015-11-15 00:29 -0800
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Subject Re: modified EFE
From Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com>

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On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 1:20:14 PM UTC-8, JanPB wrote:
> Koobee Wublee wrote:

> > You can reduce the set of the field equations into a scalar
> > equation in Ricci scalar, but the single, concise equation becomes
> > less useful in solved the set of the field equations.  <shrug>
>
> > First, we write down the set of field equations in matrices below.
> > You can represent them in the form involving each element if you
> > wish.  <shrug>
>
> > **  [R] - R [g] / 2 = k [T], field equations
>
> > Or
>
> > **  [R]_ij - R [g]_ij / 2 = k rho [g]_ij
>
> > Where
>
> > **  [R] = matrix representing the Ricci tensor
> > **  [g] = matrix representing the metric tensor
> > **  R = Ricci scalar
> > **  [T] = rho [g], matrix representing the energy momentum tensor
> > **  [R]_ij = element of [R]
> > **  rho = mass density
> > **  k = constant
>
> > Recognizing the Ricci scalar as a dot product of two specific matrices,
>
> > **  R = [g^-1] * [R], Ricci scalar
>
> > Where
>
> > **  [g^-1] = inverse of [g]
> > **  [g^-1] * [R] = [g^-1]^ij [R]_ij, dot product of [g^-1] and [R]
>
> > The field equations can be rewritten as follows.  <shrug>
>
> > **  [g^-1] * [R] - R [g^-1] * [g] / 2 = k rho [g^-1] * [g]
>
> > Or
>
> > **  R = - 4 k rho
>
> > Where
>
> > **  [g^-1] * [R] = R, Ricci scalar
> > **  [g^-1] * [g] = 4 (number of dimensions)
>
> > Now, using the Poisson equation as the boundary conditions, we
> > arrive at:
>
> > **  R = 8 pi G rho / c^2
>
> > Where
>
> > **  G = Newtonian gravitational constant
>
> > That means:
>
> > **  k = - 2 pi G / c^2
>
> > Or
>
> > **  [G] = - 2 pi G rho [g] / c^2
>
> > Or
>
> > **  [R] - R [g] / 2 = - 2 pi G [T] / c^2
>
> > Where
>
> > **  [G] = [R] - R [g] / 2 = Einstein tensor
>
> > Yes, the Einstein tensor should be a factor of a quarter less than
> > the self-styled physicists have fudged it to be.  <shrug>
>
> > Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar is not capable of
> > performing any rudimentary scientific reasoning.  All the shit has
> > come forth from the autistic retards who choose to indulge
> > themselves in the religion of relativity.  Einstein the nitwit, the
> > plagiarist, and the liar becomes the god of relativity, and this god
> > would whisper garbage into the ears of the relativistic morons who
> > worship the religion.  <shrug>
>
> > The fudging of G (gravitational constant, not to be confused with [G]
> > the Einstein tensor) is strictly a boundary condition matching where
> > the integration constants after solving the field equations would
> > serve the roles to allow GR to degenerate into Newtonian law of
> > gravity and nothing else.  <shrug>
>
> [babbling nonsense from Jan the relativistic moron snipped]

> > For example, the Schwarzschild metric, a solution out of an infinite
> > others, in its raw form is:
>
> > **  dS^2 = c^2 w (1 + k / r) dt^2 - dr^2 / (1 + k / r) - r^2 dO^2
>
> > Where
>
> > **  dS = spacetime geometry
> > **  q, k = constants
>
> > It is found that in order for the raw Schwarzschild metric to satisfy
> > Newtonian law of gravity, the integration constants must be of the
> > following.  <shrug>
>
> > **  w = 1
> > **  k = - 2 G M / c^2
> 
> There are no "infinite others" - you don't understand the mathematics
> underlying this problem. In the spherically symmetric case there can
> only exist one tensor satisfying the Einstein equation. It's a theorem
> in mathematics - I challenge you to find an error in this theorem.

The following solution is also a solution to the field equations.  <shrug>

**  dS^2 = c^2 w dt^2 / (1 + k / r) - (1 + k / r) dr^2
         - r^2 (1 + k / r)^2 dO^2

> "raw form"? Why "raw"?

Stupid!  <shrug>

> dS is not any "spacetime geometry", that's a sloppy, amateurish talk.

Nonsense!  <shrug>

> ds^2 is the metric tensor

Wrong!  ds^2 is a scalar, but the metric tensor is a matrix.  Relativistic moron!  <shrug>

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modified EFE chemguy <doulting@shaw.ca> - 2015-11-04 13:48 -0800
  Re: modified EFE Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-05 12:39 -0600
    Re: modified EFE chemguy <doulting@shaw.ca> - 2015-11-05 16:03 -0800
  Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 13:01 -0800
    Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 14:16 -0800
      Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 23:37 -0800
      Re: modified EFE Edgardo Alcantara <edgardoalcantara@carosseryrepair.org> - 2015-11-07 13:08 +0000
      Re: modified EFE John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 16:06 -0800
        Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-09 00:20 +0000
          Re: modified EFE John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 16:37 -0800
            Re: modified EFE John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 16:39 -0800
              Re: modified EFE John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 16:49 -0800
          Re: modified EFE Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-09 12:28 -0600
            Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-09 18:55 +0000
              Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:58 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-11-09 21:10 +0100
                Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-09 20:14 +0000
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 12:56 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-09 21:08 +0000
                Re: modified EFE kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-09 16:42 -0500
                Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-09 22:45 +0000
                Re: modified EFE kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-09 18:17 -0500
                Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-10 15:06 +0000
                Re: modified EFE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-10 16:41 +0100
                Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-10 16:24 +0000
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:04 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:23 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:06 -0800
              Re: modified EFE kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-09 16:33 -0500
                Re: modified EFE Open Collector <openc@opencollector.org> - 2015-11-09 21:50 +0000
            Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:19 -0800
              Re: modified EFE kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-11-09 16:47 -0500
            Re: modified EFE John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 19:16 -0800
              Re: modified EFE John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 19:24 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:27 -0800
              Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:26 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 00:30 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 12:03 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-10 21:55 +0000
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 16:11 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:50 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 17:04 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 18:41 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 21:26 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 13:06 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 00:03 -0800
                Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 00:14 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 15:07 -0600
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 16:20 -0800
                Re: modified EFE Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 19:35 -0600
              Re: modified EFE Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-09 22:45 -0600
                Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 00:22 -0800
      Re: modified EFE Ludwig Böhm <ludwb@widespectrum.com> - 2015-11-12 00:12 +0000
        Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 18:41 -0800
    Re: modified EFE Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 14:48 -0800
      Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 23:57 -0800
        Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 13:20 -0800
          Re: modified EFE Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 00:29 -0800
            Re: modified EFE JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 01:34 -0800
              Re: modified EFE Ty Knotts <TyKnotts@hotmail.org> - 2015-11-15 18:05 +0000

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