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Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern
Date 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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In article <c1h1qcFajm1U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> > google's maps are more accurate 
> >> 
> >> Certainly not in all cases, and certainly not in all areas. 
> >
> > it' an overall evaluation.
> 
> it's an opinion based on your own limited experience, yup

it's not my opinion or anyone elses opinion. it's reality. 

google has more accurate maps overall, with a *lot* more people working
on maps than apple does, and has been for a *lot* longer.

apple's maps are not horrible (nobody ever said they were) but they are
not as accurate as google's and will remain less accurate for a very
long time. 

> >> And which is
> >> technically better, by whatever margin, doesn't really interest me when
> >> Apple Maps gets me where I need to go and is usable for its intended
> >> purpose.
> >> 
> >> >plus it has street view, which apple's
> >> > maps sorely lacks and never will get (flyover is not a substitute).
> >> 
> >> I don't need street view, and I'm sure there are many others like me.
> >
> > based on what?
> 
> based on the fact that *I don't need street view*, duh

you can tell that others don't need street view because you don't???

that's pure bullshit.

> > street view is exceptionally and something apple will never have.
> > that's just the way it is,
> 
> exceptional? hardly. it's only a nice to have for me and many others.

i meant to say exceptionally useful, and indeed it is for *many* people.

in any event, you have *no* idea how many people want or don't want
street view, other than yourself.

> > for those who want street view, apple maps is a non-starter.
> 
> i don't want or need it. if i do, google maps is the next icon over.

apple and google aren't making software for you personally.

> > flyover is a lame substitute and doesn't cover very many areas and it
> > never will.
> 
> which doesn't affect its usefulness for me one bit.

but it does for the rest of the world where it doesn't cover the
desired area, or for those who want street view.

> >> Maps has been usable for the intended purpose since day one for many
> >> people. No amount of your blackballing can change that fact.
> >
> > it's intended purpose is to provide accurate maps and it failed at that.
> 
> for you maybe,

for everyone.

apple publicly apologized for how bad their maps are.

> but for many, it works just fine, and sometimes better
> than google maps, depending on the location.

nobody said otherwise.

however, apple's maps are likely to be worse for a given area because
the data overall is worse.

apple admits it's not as good. why can't you?

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Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:28 -0700
  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-30 11:37 -0400
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:55 -0700
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-30 12:33 -0400
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 09:47 -0700
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2014-06-30 18:20 +0100
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-30 12:41 -0500
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-30 17:49 +0000
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 15:52 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:24 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-02 02:37 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 20:43 +0000
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 12:09 -0700
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:05 +0000
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:26 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-04 15:50 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-04 20:47 +0000
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-30 21:44 +0000
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-01 02:46 +0000
  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 08:38 -0700
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 08:59 -0700
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 09:09 -0700
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-30 09:25 -0700
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-30 11:02 -0500
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-06-30 09:09 -0700
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-06-30 17:17 -0400
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-30 21:38 +0000
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-06-30 21:50 -0400
          Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 02:06 +0000
            Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 17:49 +1000
              Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 15:39 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 16:55 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 08:58 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 17:04 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 09:15 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 18:19 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 17:24 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-07-02 00:46 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 01:32 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-02 10:00 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 21:27 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 13:23 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:14 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 22:32 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:40 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:03 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:17 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 18:20 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 17:25 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 10:43 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-07-02 00:46 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 10:42 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 18:45 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:06 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:22 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:33 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-01 12:27 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-07-01 08:55 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 06:58 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-01 12:24 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:28 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:10 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 19:54 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 06:53 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:17 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 07:24 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 21:34 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-07-01 22:36 +0100
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:46 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 18:24 -0700
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-01 21:48 -0400
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:45 +1000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-02 00:35 +0000
                Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 21:20 +1000
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-07-01 09:04 -0400
        Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-01 10:22 -0400
    Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Neil Ellwood <niel.elllwood2@btinternet.com> - 2014-07-01 03:10 -0500
      Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-01 07:52 -0700
  Re: Apple updating its Maps with user corrections every day at 3 am Eastern "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 07:10 +1000
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