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Re: 'i don't know'

Subject Re: 'i don't know'
Newsgroups alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, alt.astronomy
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From Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com>
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Date 2017-01-12 03:39 -0700

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On 1/11/2017 6:45 AM, SteveGG wrote:
> Sorry...
>
> NO : God, or Santa Clause or Tooth Fairy or etc. !
>
> Get real; grow up !
>

I have no idea why atheists are getting more and more obsessed with 
preaching the Bad News and trying to convert religious believers these 
days. Even if it were possible to prove God/dess's _non_existence, I 
doubt it would be overly advisable.

A _lot_ of those people who still believe, also feel compulsions to do 
objectively-evil things; and only don't act on those because they fear 
earning eternal punishment. Take away the stick, especially while also 
taking away the carrot, and you'll create a Hobbesian world again.

TLDR: no, outlawing religion won't get rid of hatred toward the 
non-cishet and is unlikely to remove racism or sexism either. But if you 
somehow manage to do it, you'll get a situation where a lot of people 
who were acting morally but against their brain's drives (since, after 
all, most of you also say we have no independent mind), will instead 
turn into homicidal, thieving nihilists. And no, even if you believe 
we're all merely organic computers, it's not possible to fix the 
hardware in such a way as to run the software the way you want.

-- 
Chrysi Cat
1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
Transgoddess, quick to anger
Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!

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'i don't know' The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-01-10 22:59 -0800
  Re: 'i don't know' Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2017-01-11 08:38 +0100
    Re: 'i don't know' djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2017-01-11 14:09 +0000
      Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-11 08:33 -0800
        Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-11 08:46 -0800
        Re: 'i don't know' ed wolf <eduartwolf@gmx.net> - 2017-01-11 09:46 -0800
          Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 11:26 -0800
            Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-12 01:38 +0000
              Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 08:47 +0000
              Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-12 02:09 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-13 02:22 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-12 23:01 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Roselia Holder <vomit-inducing.hurry-whore@rec.arts.female.ejaculation> - 2017-01-13 05:16 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:33 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 17:39 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 05:41 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-14 04:50 -0800
        Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 07:16 +0000
  Re: 'i don't know' Jørgen Farum Jensen <farumjensen@mailme.dk> - 2017-01-11 14:08 +0100
    Re: 'i don't know' ed wolf <eduartwolf@gmx.net> - 2017-01-11 09:50 -0800
      Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-12 01:43 +0000
        Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-12 10:58 +0800
          Re: 'i don't know' Jørgen Farum Jensen <farumjensen@mailme.dk> - 2017-01-12 21:37 +0100
            Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 11:42 +0800
              Re: 'i don't know' Jørgen Farum Jensen <farumjensen@mailme.dk> - 2017-01-13 08:52 +0100
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-13 04:54 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-13 06:43 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 19:11 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:37 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 17:48 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:35 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-14 19:03 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:37 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 15:42 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' hhyapster@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 18:11 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-14 19:08 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 05:45 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 01:26 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:46 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 03:34 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2017-01-15 13:03 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-15 12:56 -0600
          Re: 'i don't know' Hope Simmers <Hope_Simmers@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-12 13:17 -0800
            Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 11:54 +0800
              Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:43 +0000
                Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 03:39 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-13 19:52 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 04:29 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-13 20:53 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 22:00 -0700
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 05:10 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-13 21:15 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2017-01-14 13:34 -0500
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2017-01-14 10:39 -0800
                Re: Atheists do not understand science "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2017-01-14 13:58 -0500
                Re: Atheists do not understand science pandora <pandora@peak.org> - 2017-01-14 13:42 -0600
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-15 02:26 +0000
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 05:46 -0600
                Re: Atheists do not understand science Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 11:50 +0000
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                Re: 'i don't know' Irreverend Dave <reverend_dave@ministerpants.com> - 2017-01-14 05:30 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-14 08:43 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' Irreverend Dave <reverend_dave@ministerpants.com> - 2017-01-14 15:48 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-14 14:37 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 01:52 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 01:58 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-15 10:33 -0500
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 01:40 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-14 19:43 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:01 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 16:00 +0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2017-01-15 09:52 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-15 10:03 -0600
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-16 02:06 +0800
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          Re: 'i don't know' Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-01-12 13:27 -0800
            Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-13 12:01 +0800
              Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-14 01:49 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 22:01 -0500
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                Re: 'i don't know' Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-01-15 10:33 -0500
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                Re: 'i don't know' Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-01-15 02:25 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' aaa <jeo@somewhere.org> - 2017-01-15 22:30 +0800
  Re: 'i don't know' SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2017-01-11 08:45 -0500
    Re: 'i don't know' Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 03:39 -0700
      Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-12 15:02 +0000
        Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-12 08:51 -0800
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        Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-12 20:21 -0800
          Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-14 06:28 -0600
        Re: 'i don't know' SteveGG <casagiannoni@optonline.net> - 2017-01-13 09:09 -0500
          Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-13 09:26 -0800
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                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 20:58 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-14 09:11 -0800
                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 21:10 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 22:34 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-15 10:54 +0000
            Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 00:04 +0000
              Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-14 15:17 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 22:26 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-15 10:35 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 10:43 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-01-15 11:20 +0000
                Re: 'i don't know' Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 11:27 +0000
      Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-13 18:43 -0800
  Re: 'i don't know' Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2017-01-11 06:35 -0800
    Re: 'i don't know' MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2017-01-11 15:49 +0000
      Re: 'i don't know' Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2017-01-11 10:08 -0600
    Re: 'i don't know' hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-01-11 21:14 -0800
      Re: 'i don't know' "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 22:43 -0700
  Re: 'i don't know' Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-11 08:27 -0800
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      Re: 'i don't know' Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2017-01-11 19:36 +0100
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          Re: 'i don't know' Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2017-01-11 20:27 +0100
            Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 11:55 -0800
              Re: 'i don't know' Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2017-01-11 21:06 +0100
                Re: 'i don't know' Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-01-11 12:31 -0800
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