Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.os.vms > #58375

Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had

Newsgroups comp.os.vms
Subject Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had
References (1 earlier) <njmdvo$vo0$1@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE> <SOvsKFZy$cGX@eisner.encompasserve.org> <njoior$lv7$4@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE> <00B0A991.08C9F17D@SendSpamHere.ORG> <njphnc$sa6$2@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>
From VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG
Message-ID <00B0A9E6.12C2CF5B@SendSpamHere.ORG> (permalink)
Organization c.2016 Brian Schenkenberger. Prior employers of copyright holder and their agents must first obtain written permission to copy this posting.
Date 2016-06-14 20:55 +0000

Show all headers | View raw


In article <njphnc$sa6$2@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>, Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> writes:
>On 2016-06-14 12:47, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <njoior$lv7$4@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>, Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> writes:
>>> On 2016-06-13 22:51, Bob Koehler wrote:
>>>> In article <njmdvo$vo0$1@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>, Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> writes:
>>>>> On 2016-06-13 14:59, Bob Koehler wrote:
>>>>>> In article <njeel9$fq3$1@dont-email.me>, "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One issue with the VMS terminal line editing is because it is handled in
>>>>>>> the driver, it does not have access to the filesystem to allow it to do
>>>>>>> filename completion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Which belongs in the CLI, not the terminal driver.  The CLI should be
>>>>>>    doing it's own command line editing,instead of leaning on the limited
>>>>>>    editing in the driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't agree. I want command line editing, no matter if I'm at the CLI,
>>>>> or in some user application. And I do not consider it to be a good
>>>>> system design that every program should include their own version of
>>>>> commmand line editing.
>>>>
>>>>    Putting editing into the CLI does not mean it has to be removed from
>>>>    the terminal driver.  But the terminal driver is a limited context
>>>>    and should only be used for limited purposes.
>>>
>>> True. One does not exclude the other. But I fail to see the benefit of
>>> having both.
>>>
>>>>    I've got UNIX shells that will let me make use of most of the power
>>>>    of vi (oxymoron), or emacs.  I see no reason why all that should be
>>>>    in a driver.  But I also don't want a driver that provides only the
>>>>    functions of a card punch.
>>>
>>> I want that vi or emacs capability always, no matter what program or
>>> context I am in, and not just at the CLI or shell. Which is the reason I
>>> think it belongs in the driver. This functionality, in my mind, is not
>>> tied to a specific application or environment. It's a functionality that
>>> I want basically all the time, everywhere. Based on that, it's not hard
>>> to see where it should go.
>>
>> So, vi and or emacs aren't that special; it's the unix terminal driver that's
>> to be given all the credits.  ...wait for it... ...wait for it...  Hopefully,
>> the light comes on.
>
>I'm getting the feeling that either you do not understand anything at 
>all, or you are trying to be funny and totally failing.

It is you that are not being serious.  You'd said you wanted 'vi' or 'emacs'
capability always.  I'll wager a good bet that those features are NOT part of
the basic input of unix/linux.  Why do you believe that the terminal driver
should have recall, search, find-and-replace, insert, delete, etc. which are
functions in 'vi', 'emacs' and most every editor; yet, most of those functions
are not implemented by/in the terminal driver.

If you want elaborate input editing, don't use the basic terminal driver I/O;
use other I/O routines -- for example, SMG.  If it was ALL up to the terminal
driver and it buffered a pool of your input, how can you know if the recalled
input is applicable to your command line or your current application or some
previously executed application?  Oh, let me see, the terminal driver should
expunge any data from the previous application at application rundown?  OK, I
can see that.  Then, the terminal driver would need to maintain mode state of
the input so that a new application can not touch the command line(s), or do
you like to open up potential security holes in the name of simplicity simply
because you don't want to take the time to program your application's input?


-- 
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG

I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

Back to comp.os.vms | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 20:37 -0700
  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-10 08:17 -0500
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-10 17:04 +0200
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had osuvman50@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 08:34 -0700
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-10 12:12 -0400
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-10 20:28 +0200
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:32 +0000
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-10 20:44 +0200
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 15:35 -0400
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-11 09:07 +0200
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 10:52 -0400
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-11 16:59 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 11:12 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 12:32 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-12 04:50 -0700
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 14:12 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 14:47 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 17:14 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-12 09:40 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2016-06-12 16:06 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had abrsvc <dansabrservices@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-12 13:19 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 16:32 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-12 20:19 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-12 14:20 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 21:03 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 21:11 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 21:16 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 21:27 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:00 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-13 21:35 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2016-06-14 11:28 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 10:31 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 14:47 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 12:19 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 16:44 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:23 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 21:26 +0000
                VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-14 19:33 +0000
                Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-14 23:36 +0200
                Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:18 +0000
                Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:39 +0200
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-19 13:51 +0000
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 19:43 +0200
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:53 -0400
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-19 22:44 -0700
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 13:21 -0400
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-21 07:02 -0700
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-20 11:25 +0000
                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 22:02 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 16:53 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 13:34 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:54 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 13:32 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 13:07 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:06 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:48 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 13:41 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 13:47 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 22:34 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-13 20:22 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-14 04:26 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-14 18:59 -0500
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 21:11 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 02:32 -0700
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-06-12 16:54 +0300
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-12 15:52 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-06-12 20:42 +0300
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-12 19:35 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:10 -0400
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:43 -0400
    Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:29 +0000
      Re: Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-10 22:14 +0200
        Re: Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-11 00:06 +0200
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-10 20:05 +0000
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-11 09:12 +0200
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Joukj <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> - 2016-06-13 09:37 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-13 09:56 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 10:53 +0000
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 09:33 -0400
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 10:53 -0400
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-11 15:27 +0000
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-12 03:15 +0000
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 11:19 +0200
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-12 18:55 +0000
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 08:59 -0400
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-13 15:55 +0200
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 19:36 +0000
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 13:46 -0700
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 21:20 +0000
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 17:27 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-13 23:55 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 00:12 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:36 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:32 +0000
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:24 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:42 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:12 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:32 -0400
                Re: Parsers (was Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had) Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 10:58 -0400
                Re: Parsers (was Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had)   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 15:25 +0000
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:22 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:35 +0000
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:16 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 20:37 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 18:27 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:24 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 11:57 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 14:39 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-15 08:58 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 15:30 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 14:35 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 19:29 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-15 13:26 -0500
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 11:18 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 09:57 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 13:58 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-16 15:20 -0500
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-21 17:17 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:21 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:59 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 11:53 +0000
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 16:51 -0400
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:28 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:47 +0000
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:17 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 20:55 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:31 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 18:29 -0400
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-14 04:14 -0700
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 11:25 +0000
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:21 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:44 -0400
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:22 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-14 19:23 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:34 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-15 03:17 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 13:04 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 05:34 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-18 21:45 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:31 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 02:36 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-15 11:53 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 19:10 +0000
                Terminals, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:45 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:33 +0000
  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 02:15 -0700
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 03:58 -0700
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-30 14:25 +0200
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-30 11:29 -0400
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 15:29 -0700
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:59 -0400
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-01 11:21 -0400
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:41 -0400
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-01 14:39 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 15:13 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 21:31 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-02 16:33 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 16:57 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:34 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-07-03 06:40 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 00:09 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:12 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-03 12:35 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-07-03 10:50 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 11:05 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-03 12:29 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 11:44 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-07-03 06:59 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 15:58 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 14:38 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-07-03 17:53 -0500
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 16:19 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-07-03 21:03 -0500
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 21:11 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-07-04 05:48 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 16:55 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 14:33 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-02 20:05 +0000

csiph-web