Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org

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Subject	Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org
Date	2018-07-24 18:33 +0000
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alal65536@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 6:00:01 AM UTC+5:30, Sergio wrote:
>> On 7/20/2018 5:41 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> > reber G=emc^2 <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 12:52:20 PM UTC-7, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
>> >>> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 5:20:35 AM UTC-10, alal...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>>> "An EU initiative will deploy hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles in three European capitals as taxis, private hire and police cars."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There is a lot of publicity for electric vehicles that run on batteries.  So let's talk about hydrogen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hydrogen can provide zero emissions transportation.  The hydrogen cars have long ranges upto 800 km.  Now, I did not see any information on cost in this article.  To become mainstream, they should be cost competitive.  How expensive are the vehicles?  What is the cost per km of transportation?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Abhinav Lal
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello Abhinav, 
>> >>> Hydrogen is good. It has no carbon. Hydrogen leaks through steel.
>> >>> Iron gets brittle in H-2.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Atomic hydrogen is untouchable. Use molecular H 2.
>> >>
>> >> Burn hydrogen and get water.Calif needs every drop.How is your valcano going?If is quite it goes well to blow on Aug.28 Bert
>> > 
>> > Burn hydrogen with air and get huge quantities of nitric oxides.
>> > 
>> > 
>> 
>> that is fact,  burn hydrogen with air too hot you get nitrates,
>> nitrites, something current cars have too.
>> 
>> Combustion of fuels:
>>     At high temperatures, oxygen and nitrogen present in air combine to
>> form nitrogen oxides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> other factors;
>> 
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401988/a-pollution-free-hydrogen-economy-not-so-soon/
> 
> According to the above article generating hydrogen causes pollution, but if we choose the right method, we can minimise the pollution.  Hydrogen burns with oxygen to produce water vapour, and no nitrous oxides or carbon dioxide.  The original article in phys.org, IIRC mentioned burning hydrogen with oxygen, in the EV.

Do you understand what air is?

Do you understand that the temperature of combustion of hydrogen is for
all practical purposes fixed?

Do you understand that the temperature of combustion of hydrogen is above
the temperature where oxides of nitrogen form?

Do you understand that combustion, or burning, of hydrogen in air is
highly polluting?



-- 
Jim Pennino

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Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 08:20 -0700
  Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-07-19 18:33 +0000
    Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-19 12:38 -0700
      Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-07-19 19:54 +0000
        Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 04:39 -0700
          Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-07-20 18:08 +0000
            Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 16:26 -0400
            Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-20 19:00 -0700
              Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-07-21 05:17 +0000
  Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:05 -0700
    Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-19 13:12 -0700
  Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 10:05 -0700
    Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-20 10:30 -0700
    Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-20 10:33 -0700
    Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 13:59 -0700
      Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-20 14:08 -0700
  Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 12:52 -0700
    Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 14:21 -0700
      Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2018-07-20 14:34 -0700
        Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-21 09:48 -0700
          Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 16:17 -0700
            Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-23 16:26 -0700
      Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-07-20 14:39 -0700
      Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-07-20 22:41 +0000
        Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-23 19:29 -0500
          Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 05:29 -0700
            Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-24 09:38 -0500
              Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 10:31 -0700
            Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2018-07-24 18:33 +0000
              Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-07-24 17:35 -0400
          Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org alal65536@gmail.com - 2018-07-24 06:22 -0700
            Re: Will hydrogen powered cars gradually become mainstream in Europe? - phys.org Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-07-24 09:40 -0500
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