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Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here

Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
From Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Subject Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here
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Date 2016-05-12 21:39 -0700
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On 2016-05-13, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/12/16, 8:26 PM, in article nh3hah$79g$2@dont-email.me, "DFS"
><nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/12/2016 10:12 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-05-12, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-05-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I really really want to by Apple computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why, unless you want to run OSX?  There's so much more variety in
>>>>> generic hardware...
>>>> 
>>>>    They should fully embrace virtualization and stop fighting it. Let
>>>> interested geeks run their operating system if they want.
>>> 
>>> Apple is likely too scared to do that. They fear opening OSX up to other
>>> hardware makers. Guess they don't believe in their own hardware.
>> 
>> Good God.
>
> Such comments, to me, indicate a desire to have OS X but a lack of
> willingness to pay.
>
> Which is fine... I want many things I am not willing, or sometimes even
> able, to pay for. I just do without and use tools that serve me well enough.

I already own Macs. And if I didn't want to pay I could easily build a
Hackintosh. So I think your logic is flawed. I'm merely pointing out
that Apple is scared to sell OSX to other vendors such as Dell for a
licensing fee. They fear competition for hardware. Nothing to do with
Open Sourcing it at all. They will not offer OSX for $119 or $199 such
that you can install on it commodity hardware the same way Microsoft
does. And Linux installs pretty darn well on tons of hardware, including
older PowerPC Macs, which even Apple doesn't support. 

So spare me the technical challenge. Both Microsoft and Linux can run on
commodity PC hardware. So why doesn't Apple release OSX to companies
like HP and Dell? Answer: because they damn well that if you had the
choice to buy that shit iMac versus a medium tower with slots and a nice
new nVidia 1080 you'd buy that over an Apple Mac. 

Face reality, Snit. The Mac hardware lineup sucks. All you got is
beautiful hardware design and so-so specs. Often out of date. They have
sharp displays I'll grant you. But bang for the buck they don't have. I
can build a powerhouse of a PC for $1,200.

So just stating the obvious. Apple is scared to sell OSX as a license to
OEMs. They fear hardware competition. They want to lock you in because
the reality is that in open architecture they'd not be able to get away
with their crap hardware. Not that anyone's even buying the garbage can.
Do you see them talking up their sales of that flagship product? No, not
at all. And it's because those numbers are nothing to brag about. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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Every successful scientist uses the APPLE and not Windoze or Linux Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 18:40 -0700
  Must be some Appile Lie here 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 07:22 +0000
    Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 09:38 +0100
      Re: Must be some Appile Lie here 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 14:41 +0000
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 15:15 +0100
          Re: Must be some Appile Lie here 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 22:06 +0000
            Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-28 16:42 -0700
              Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 17:01 -0700
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 16:07 +0000
          Re: Must be some Appile Lie here William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:39 +0100
            Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-29 10:18 +0100
    Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 01:46 -0700
    Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-28 09:41 +0000
      Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-28 03:08 -0700
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-28 10:47 +0000
          Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:11 -0700
            Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-28 13:46 +0200
              Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 05:07 -0700
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:02 -0700
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 11:04 +0200
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 07:59 -0700
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:37 +0200
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:37 -0700
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 19:05 -0700
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-30 09:43 +0200
                Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:43 -0700
        [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-05-11 19:36 +0100
          Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-11 12:08 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-05-11 21:28 +0100
              Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-11 19:47 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-05-12 10:45 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-12 07:14 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-05-12 17:09 +0100
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-12 10:23 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2016-05-12 18:51 +0100
                TCP to SMB Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-12 12:38 -0700
                Re: TCP to SMB Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-12 13:53 -0700
                Re: TCP to SMB Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-14 19:03 +0000
                Re: TCP to SMB Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 12:15 -0700
                Re: TCP to SMB Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-14 12:51 -0700
                Re: TCP to SMB Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-14 12:50 -0700
          Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-11 14:36 -0500
            Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 13:28 -0700
              Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 13:29 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 13:42 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 14:19 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 13:48 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 13:49 -0700
              Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 13:51 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 14:07 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 14:40 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-12 17:01 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-12 15:31 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-11 18:28 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-12 16:58 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-12 15:23 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 14:17 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-11 18:58 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-12 01:58 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-12 16:55 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-13 00:27 +0200
              Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-11 22:57 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-11 14:01 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-11 14:18 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-11 23:25 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-11 23:28 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-12 17:14 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-12 19:32 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-12 19:46 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-12 23:37 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-13 16:06 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-12 21:20 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 08:19 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 08:30 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-13 16:03 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-12 07:14 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-12 17:58 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-12 19:12 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-12 23:26 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-12 21:39 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-13 07:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 08:19 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 08:27 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 08:32 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-13 10:48 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-13 11:03 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-13 11:06 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-13 18:14 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 08:59 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 09:17 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 17:30 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-14 16:49 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-13 13:47 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-13 18:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-13 15:38 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 12:50 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-14 22:19 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 10:07 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-14 16:45 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 16:09 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-05-12 17:12 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-12 19:29 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-13 11:36 +0200
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-13 16:12 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 15:19 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-13 16:11 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 15:17 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Must be some Appile Lie here tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 13:28 -0700
      Re: Must be some Appile Lie here 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 14:44 +0000
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 15:19 +0100
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 07:19 -0700
      Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:21 -0400
    Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:47 -0500
      Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 15:21 +0100
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:42 -0700
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 08:05 -0700
          Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 16:37 +0100
            Look at what Linux does to the body! Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 20:44 -0700
      Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:37 -0400
        Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 08:12 -0700
          Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 10:26 -0500
            Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 11:24 -0500
              Re: Must be some Appile Lie here chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 13:28 -0500
            Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 12:52 -0400
          Re: Must be some Appile Lie here DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 12:29 -0400
            Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 10:43 -0700
    Re: Must be some Appile Lie here ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 16:02 +0000
    Re: Must be some Appile Lie here Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-28 09:10 -0700

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