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  Re: Looking for Yorkshire Pudding recipes Conley's Elms <le@ida.hero> - 2026-07-31 14:11 -0600
    Re: Looking for Yorkshire Pudding recipes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-01 03:12 +0000
      Re: Looking for Yorkshire Pudding recipes Conley's Elms <le@ida.hero> - 2026-07-31 22:59 -0600
        Re: Looking for Yorkshire Pudding recipes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-01 05:26 +0000

#153 — Re: Looking for Yorkshire Pudding recipes

On 30 Jul 2026 19:55:45 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 09:18:49 -0600, Conley's Elms wrote:
> 
> > Astounding that murdering 2 LE officers in cold blood only got him
> > 30 years and 8 reduced for "good behavior"...  
> 
> It was a strange situation. I've been in the part of the Owyhee where
> it went down. iirc it was in '88, well before civilian GPS
> technology. There weren't many signs at all let alone a big one
> saying 'Idaho'. In any case you can't get to that part from Idaho.
> The fish cops from Boise had to go through Nevada and backtrack. Lot
> of work to catch someone who might have been reducing the bobcat
> population out of season if they were really Idaho bobcats.
> 
> I had one of my eeriest experiences there. I hiked up along the river
> on a trail. When I returned there was a jackrabbit head in the middle
> of the trail. I mean a perfect head that looked like it had been
> surgically removed and very little blood. I assumed it was a cat.
> 
> At the time there was a feeling around Boise that getting rid of
> Pogue was a public service and he was really on trial for killing
> Elms.

Your insights and reportage square with my take on matters too.

Perhaps you recall the Ed Cantrell case in Rock springs, Wyo.
 
Pogue and Cantrell perhaps kindred LE officers to an extent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Ed_Cantrell

State of Wyoming v. Ed Cantrell (officially the State of Wyoming v. Edward Lee Cantrell) was a state trial of Wyoming police officer Ed Cantrell for the killing of Michael Angel Rosa, an undercover narcotics agent in Rock Springs, Wyoming.Rosa had previously been working towards uncovering the immense corruption in the city.

After only three hours of deliberations, the jury accepted Cantrell's self-defense argument, and acquitted him of first-degree murder.

Famed lawyer Gerry Spence won the acquittal of Cantrell in what was
deemed an "impossible case"
...
Cantrell shot Rosa between the eyes with his .38 caliber pistol,
claiming that Rosa was about to draw on him, other witnesses testified
that Rosa had a wine bottle between his legs

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#154

On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 14:11:37 -0600, Conley's Elms wrote:

> Perhaps you recall the Ed Cantrell case in Rock springs, Wyo.
>  
> Pogue and Cantrell perhaps kindred LE officers to an extent.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Ed_Cantrell

No, I didn't know about that one. It sounds messy but Spence's silver 
tongue saved the day.

I don't recall a lot of drama about Pogue except that he was a hard ass. 
Being a fish cop doesn't win a lot of popularity contests. A friend wanted 
to be a cop but ran into catch-22. To get a job you had to graduate from 
the state academy and you more or less had to be a cop to go to the 
academy.  He took a seasonal job as a game officer and that would do the 
trick. He was amazed that hunters that he had caught almost with the 
smoking gun would stand there and lie.

I'm not sure he was ready for law enforcement but the last I knew he was a 
cop in a little eastern Montana town where breaking up bar fights and 
rescuing cats were the usual pattern. Big guy and a former Golden Gloves 
fighter I think he had the bar brawls dialed in. Very laid back so the 
cats probably liked him too.

Some of my cousins were cops. Putting on a uniform doesn't change the 
personality. The assholes remained assholes, the nice guys didn't get 
bitter despite the job.

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#155

On 1 Aug 2026 03:12:15 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 14:11:37 -0600, Conley's Elms wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps you recall the Ed Cantrell case in Rock springs, Wyo.
> >  
> > Pogue and Cantrell perhaps kindred LE officers to an extent.
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Ed_Cantrell  
> 
> No, I didn't know about that one. It sounds messy but Spence's silver 
> tongue saved the day.

He later would get even bigger ink in the Silkwood plutonium case.

> I don't recall a lot of drama about Pogue except that he was a hard
> ass. Being a fish cop doesn't win a lot of popularity contests. A
> friend wanted to be a cop but ran into catch-22. To get a job you had
> to graduate from the state academy and you more or less had to be a
> cop to go to the academy.  He took a seasonal job as a game officer
> and that would do the trick. He was amazed that hunters that he had
> caught almost with the smoking gun would stand there and lie.

Like children frankly.

It would be maddening on a regular basis.

Boaters and intoxication - another 100% decouple from reality when
caught.

 
> I'm not sure he was ready for law enforcement but the last I knew he
> was a cop in a little eastern Montana town where breaking up bar
> fights and rescuing cats were the usual pattern. Big guy and a former
> Golden Gloves fighter I think he had the bar brawls dialed in. Very
> laid back so the cats probably liked him too.

;-)

Long as it wasn't Rosebud...

Rez action is super flashpoint crap and jurisdictional overlap.

> Some of my cousins were cops. Putting on a uniform doesn't change the 
> personality. The assholes remained assholes, the nice guys didn't get 
> bitter despite the job.

Human nature is fairly consistent, despite how we'd like to think it
gyrates at will.

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#156

On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 22:59:14 -0600, Conley's Elms wrote:

> Boaters and intoxication - another 100% decouple from reality when
> caught.

<https://dailyinterlake.com/news/2009/aug/29/barkus-drove-boat-in-wreck-that-injured-five-6/>

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