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  How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 15:15 +0100
    Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-09-28 15:57 +0100
    Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:15 +0100
      Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 19:32 +0100
    Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:17 +0200
    Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0100
      Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-28 16:56 +0100
        Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-28 18:08 +0100
        Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> - 2026-09-28 18:22 +0100
      Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 18:09 +0200
        Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-28 18:10 +0100
        Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 19:39 +0100
          Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:25 +0200
            Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 21:09 +0100
      Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-30 15:08 +0100
        Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-30 17:47 +0100
    Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:38 +0100

#39668 — How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number?

We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.

Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.

We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?

-- 
Chris Green
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#39669

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> 
> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
> 
> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?

I would not expect handsets to receive SMS over VOIP, so you'd need an
alternative interface, eg web or email.

If it's on 'digital voice', the only way I can think is to port the number
to a VOIP provider that offers SMS over landline numbers.  I would check
that they support it for originally-BT or whoever numbers in your particular
area code, as I understand there can be some differences in which number
blocks support SMS.

If your number is already with a standalone VOIP provider, perhaps ask them
if they can accept incoming SMS and send it to email or something.  Maybe
they have to put you on a different package to enable that?

Theo

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#39670

On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:15:07 +0100
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> 
> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't
> seem to be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS
> to voice.
> 
> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> 

If you don't have one already, get the cheapest mobile you can find.

 --
Davey.

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#39679

Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:15:07 +0100
> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> 
> > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> > 
> > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't
> > seem to be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS
> > to voice.
> > 
> > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> > 
> 
> If you don't have one already, get the cheapest mobile you can find.
> 
That doesn't help! The whole problem is that the ex-landline number is
the **only** number that the site in question will send the 2FA code to.

-- 
Chris Green
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#39671

On 28/09/2026 16:15, Chris Green wrote:
> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> 
> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
> 
> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> 

You might be lucky. Try 0800 587 5252 and see if you have any options

Dave

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#39672

Chris Green wrote:

> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> 
> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
> 
> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider 
(voipfone) does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that 
handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for 
landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines.

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#39674

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

> Chris Green wrote:
>
>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had
>> a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.  Our new VOIP
>> system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any
>> system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.  We
>> have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?  > I've not
>> heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > (voipfone)
>> does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that >
>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for >
>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of >
>> landlines.

AA says it supports it in some places, but it arrives as an email. So
arguably that isn't supporting it.

https://support.aa.net.uk/SMS_Availability

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#39676

Richmond wrote:

> Andy Burns writes:
> 
>> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS
> 
> AA says it supports it in some places, but it arrives as an email. So
> arguably that isn't supporting it.

I knew they supported mobile->email SMS delivery for their SIMs, but 
seems odd to offer PSTN->email SMS delivery for such a small range of 
STD codes.

> https://support.aa.net.uk/SMS_Availability

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#39678

In message <82se2tv07d.fsf@example.com>, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> 
writes
>Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:
>
>> Chris Green wrote:
>>
>>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had
>>> a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.  Our new VOIP
>>> system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any
>>> system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.  We
>>> have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
>>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?  > I've not
>>> heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > (voipfone)
>>> does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that >
>>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for >
>>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of >
>>> landlines.
>
>AA says it supports it in some places, but it arrives as an email. So
>arguably that isn't supporting it.
>
>https://support.aa.net.uk/SMS_Availability

Three or so years back when I moved to VOIP (with A&A), the implication 
was that I could get SMS to my VOIP line.  However on further 
investigation, you could get it on my exchange, but only to a limited 
range of numbers, and mine wasn't in that range.  So far as I could 
tell, it was a range that had never been used by BT and its 
predecessors.

Adrian
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#39675

On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> 
>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
>> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
>>
>> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
>> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
>>
>> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider 
> (voipfone) does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that 
> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for 
> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines.
> 
If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for 
some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I 
started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice 
service.

Others have had this.

Dave

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#39677

David Wade wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider 
>> (voipfone) does not.  
>
> If it was originally a BT number 

Mine was

> spoken SMS still works at least for 
> some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I 
> started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice 
> service.

Will it survive past January?

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#39680

David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote:
> On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Chris Green wrote:
> > 
> >> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> >> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> >>
> >> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
> >> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
> >>
> >> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> >> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> > I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider 
> > (voipfone) does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that 
> > handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for 
> > landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines.
> > 
> If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for 
> some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I 
> started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice 
> service.
> 
It was originally BT (but a pretty long time ago, i.e. ten years or more)
but sending a text message just does absolutely nothing.

-- 
Chris Green
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#39681

On 28/09/2026 20:39, Chris Green wrote:
> David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Chris Green wrote:
>>>
>>>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
>>>> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
>>>>
>>>> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
>>>> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
>>>>
>>>> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
>>>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
>>> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider
>>> (voipfone) does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that
>>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for
>>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines.
>>>
>> If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for
>> some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I
>> started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice
>> service.
>>
> It was originally BT (but a pretty long time ago, i.e. ten years or more)
> but sending a text message just does absolutely nothing.
> 
0800 587 5252 has options on how sms are handled

Dave

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#39682

David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote:
> On 28/09/2026 20:39, Chris Green wrote:
> > David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote:
> >>> Chris Green wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> >>>> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
> >>>> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> >>>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> >>> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider
> >>> (voipfone) does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that
> >>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for
> >>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines.
> >>>
> >> If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for
> >> some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I
> >> started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice
> >> service.
> >>
> > It was originally BT (but a pretty long time ago, i.e. ten years or more)
> > but sending a text message just does absolutely nothing.
> > 
> 0800 587 5252 has options on how sms are handled
> 
It just says that no curfew has been configured so I don't think there's
anything I can do with that.

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#39692

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

> Chris Green wrote:
>
>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
>> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
>> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't
>> seem to
>> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
>> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the
>> ex-landline
>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider
> (voipfone) does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that
> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for
> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of
> landlines.

I was looking at my Voipfone account today and I saw a tab called SMS
Messages. It looks convoluted though,  "To receive a message, your
sender needs to compose their text in this format: <Account number>
space <your message of less than 150 characters>"

And there is also a Send SMS button.

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#39693

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:
>
>> Chris Green wrote:
>>
>>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had
>>> a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.  Our new VOIP
>>> system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any
>>> system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.  We
>>> have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
>>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?  >> I've not
>>> heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider >> (voipfone)
>>> does not.  I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that >>
>>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for
>>> >> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of >>
>>> landlines.
>
> I was looking at my Voipfone account today and I saw a tab called SMS
> Messages. It looks convoluted though, "To receive a message, your
> sender needs to compose their text in this format: <Account number>
> space <your message of less than 150 characters>"
>
> And there is also a Send SMS button.

I decided to test this, I sent a message from Voipfone to my mobile and
it arrived but from a Voipfone virtual mobile number, not specific to
me. I then replied to it using the format I mentioned above and that
worked. But I thought well that's not useful if everyone has to use that
format, so on a hunch I thought maybe I have established a connection so
I will send another without the account number and it arrived just the
same. I am using the web interface for Voipfone, not the actual phone.

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#39673

On 28/09/2026 15:15, Chris Green wrote:
> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a
> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages.
> 
> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to
> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice.
> 
> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline
> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum?
> 
Phone Dignitas

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its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

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