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| Started by | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| First post | 2026-09-28 15:15 +0100 |
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How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 15:15 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-09-28 15:57 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:15 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 19:32 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:17 +0200
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-28 16:56 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-28 18:08 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> - 2026-09-28 18:22 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 18:09 +0200
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-28 18:10 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 19:39 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:25 +0200
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-28 21:09 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-30 15:08 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-30 17:47 +0100
Re: How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:38 +0100
| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 15:15 +0100 |
| Subject | How to get a 2FA message sent to non-SMS number? |
| Message-ID | <bc9qom-u2t1.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? -- Chris Green ·
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| From | Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 15:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jME*zaQRA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #39668 |
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to > be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. > > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? I would not expect handsets to receive SMS over VOIP, so you'd need an alternative interface, eg web or email. If it's on 'digital voice', the only way I can think is to port the number to a VOIP provider that offers SMS over landline numbers. I would check that they support it for originally-BT or whoever numbers in your particular area code, as I understand there can be some differences in which number blocks support SMS. If your number is already with a standalone VOIP provider, perhaps ask them if they can accept incoming SMS and send it to email or something. Maybe they have to put you on a different package to enable that? Theo
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| From | Davey <davey@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 16:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119e0b7$2eruf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39668 |
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:15:07 +0100 Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't > seem to be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS > to voice. > > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > If you don't have one already, get the cheapest mobile you can find. -- Davey.
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 19:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <8eoqom-bqu1.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #39670 |
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:15:07 +0100 > Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > > > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > > > > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't > > seem to be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS > > to voice. > > > > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > > > > If you don't have one already, get the cheapest mobile you can find. > That doesn't help! The whole problem is that the ex-landline number is the **only** number that the site in question will send the 2FA code to. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 17:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119e0eh$2aksb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39668 |
On 28/09/2026 16:15, Chris Green wrote: > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to > be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. > > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > You might be lucky. Try 0800 587 5252 and see if you have any options Dave
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 16:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhvfg1FlfjcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39668 |
Chris Green wrote: > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to > be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. > > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider (voipfone) does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines.
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 16:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <82se2tv07d.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #39672 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes: > Chris Green wrote: > >> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had >> a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. Our new VOIP >> system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any >> system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. We >> have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline >> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > I've not >> heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > (voipfone) >> does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that > >> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for > >> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of > >> landlines. AA says it supports it in some places, but it arrives as an email. So arguably that isn't supporting it. https://support.aa.net.uk/SMS_Availability
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 18:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhvl8lFmbpcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39674 |
Richmond wrote: > Andy Burns writes: > >> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS > > AA says it supports it in some places, but it arrives as an email. So > arguably that isn't supporting it. I knew they supported mobile->email SMS delivery for their SIMs, but seems odd to offer PSTN->email SMS delivery for such a small range of STD codes. > https://support.aa.net.uk/SMS_Availability
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| From | Adrian <bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 18:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1pAwytLlJquqFwme@ku.gro.lloiff> |
| In reply to | #39674 |
In message <82se2tv07d.fsf@example.com>, Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes >Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes: > >> Chris Green wrote: >> >>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had >>> a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. Our new VOIP >>> system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any >>> system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. We >>> have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline >>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > I've not >>> heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > (voipfone) >>> does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that > >>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for > >>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of > >>> landlines. > >AA says it supports it in some places, but it arrives as an email. So >arguably that isn't supporting it. > >https://support.aa.net.uk/SMS_Availability Three or so years back when I moved to VOIP (with A&A), the implication was that I could get SMS to my VOIP line. However on further investigation, you could get it on my exchange, but only to a limited range of numbers, and mine wasn't in that range. So far as I could tell, it was a range that had never been used by BT and its predecessors. Adrian -- To Reply : replace "bulleid" with "adrian" - all mail to bulleid is rejected Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies.
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| From | David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 18:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119e3fa$2ftj6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39672 |
On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > >> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a >> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. >> >> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to >> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. >> >> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline >> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > (voipfone) does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that > handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for > landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines. > If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice service. Others have had this. Dave
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 18:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhvld4FmbpcU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #39675 |
David Wade wrote: > Andy Burns wrote: > >> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider >> (voipfone) does not. > > If it was originally a BT number Mine was > spoken SMS still works at least for > some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I > started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice > service. Will it survive past January?
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 19:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5soqom-bqu1.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #39675 |
David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote: > On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > >> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > >> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > >> > >> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to > >> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. > >> > >> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > >> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > > I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > > (voipfone) does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that > > handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for > > landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines. > > > If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for > some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I > started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice > service. > It was originally BT (but a pretty long time ago, i.e. ten years or more) but sending a text message just does absolutely nothing. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 21:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <119eevb$2ftj6$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39680 |
On 28/09/2026 20:39, Chris Green wrote: > David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote: >> On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote: >>> Chris Green wrote: >>> >>>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a >>>> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. >>>> >>>> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to >>>> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. >>>> >>>> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline >>>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? >>> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider >>> (voipfone) does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that >>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for >>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines. >>> >> If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for >> some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I >> started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice >> service. >> > It was originally BT (but a pretty long time ago, i.e. ten years or more) > but sending a text message just does absolutely nothing. > 0800 587 5252 has options on how sms are handled Dave
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 21:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <b4uqom-3dv1.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #39681 |
David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote: > On 28/09/2026 20:39, Chris Green wrote: > > David Wade <dave@g4ugm.invalid> wrote: > >> On 28/09/2026 17:30, Andy Burns wrote: > >>> Chris Green wrote: > >>> > >>>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > >>>> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > >>>> > >>>> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to > >>>> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. > >>>> > >>>> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > >>>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > >>> I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > >>> (voipfone) does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that > >>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for > >>> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of landlines. > >>> > >> If it was originally a BT number spoken SMS still works at least for > >> some VOIP suppliers. So my VOIP is with VOIPFONE and after a while I > >> started getting weird calls which turned to be from the SMS to Voice > >> service. > >> > > It was originally BT (but a pretty long time ago, i.e. ten years or more) > > but sending a text message just does absolutely nothing. > > > 0800 587 5252 has options on how sms are handled > It just says that no curfew has been configured so I don't think there's anything I can do with that. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 15:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <82qzialtli.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #39672 |
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes: > Chris Green wrote: > >> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a >> Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. >> Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't >> seem to >> be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. >> We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the >> ex-landline >> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > I've not heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider > (voipfone) does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that > handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for > landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of > landlines. I was looking at my Voipfone account today and I saw a tab called SMS Messages. It looks convoluted though, "To receive a message, your sender needs to compose their text in this format: <Account number> space <your message of less than 150 characters>" And there is also a Send SMS button.
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-30 17:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <82mrsylm8k.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #39692 |
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes: > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes: > >> Chris Green wrote: >> >>> We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had >>> a Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. Our new VOIP >>> system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to be any >>> system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. We >>> have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline >>> number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? >> I've not >>> heard of any VoIP provider supporting SMS, my provider >> (voipfone) >>> does not. I think I saw on a BT forum that the SMSC that >> >>> handle(s|d) SMS over POTS delivery, including spoken delivery, for >>> >> landlines will go away in January 2027 with the general end of >> >>> landlines. > > I was looking at my Voipfone account today and I saw a tab called SMS > Messages. It looks convoluted though, "To receive a message, your > sender needs to compose their text in this format: <Account number> > space <your message of less than 150 characters>" > > And there is also a Send SMS button. I decided to test this, I sent a message from Voipfone to my mobile and it arrived but from a Voipfone virtual mobile number, not specific to me. I then replied to it using the format I mentioned above and that worked. But I thought well that's not useful if everyone has to use that format, so on a hunch I thought maybe I have established a connection so I will send another without the account number and it arrived just the same. I am using the web interface for Voipfone, not the actual phone.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-28 16:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119e1lq$2ffig$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39668 |
On 28/09/2026 15:15, Chris Green wrote: > We moved our old landline to VOIP a year or so ago. The landline had a > Gigaset DECT system that accepted SMS messages. > > Our new VOIP system doesn't accept SMS messages and there doesn't seem to > be any system like landlines used to have that converts SMS to voice. > > We have a need to get a 2FA code that is being sent to the ex-landline > number, can anyone suggest a way around this conundrum? > Phone Dignitas -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon.
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