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  Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 10:52 +0000
    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 12:37 +0000
      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2017-01-08 13:56 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 15:32 +0000
          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-08 18:39 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 19:22 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 19:38 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> - 2017-01-08 19:39 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 20:17 +0000
                    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-09 08:50 +0000
                      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-09 09:41 +0000
                        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-09 13:03 +0000
                          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-10 07:36 +0000
                            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2017-01-10 07:52 +0000
                              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2017-01-15 21:23 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-01-12 09:15 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 09:32 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Flop <Flop@flop.knot.me.uk> - 2017-01-12 10:08 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-12 11:57 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-08 19:14 +0000
    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:06 +0000
      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-10 07:27 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Flop <Flop@flop.knot.me.uk> - 2017-01-10 09:50 +0000
        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-10 19:58 +0000
          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-10 21:20 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-10 22:42 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 19:31 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-13 01:41 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 07:28 +0000
            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-11 09:37 +0000
              Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Tweed <guesswho@who.com> - 2017-01-11 11:01 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-11 15:47 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-11 17:10 +0000
                    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2017-01-11 18:35 +0000
                      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-11 19:23 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-11 18:14 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 09:42 +0000
                    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-01-12 10:05 +0000
                      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 10:24 +0000
                        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-12 12:01 +0000
                          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 13:40 +0000
                Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 09:38 +0000
                  Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Tweed <guesswho@who.com> - 2017-01-12 19:52 +0000
                    Re: Dialing 111 from abroad "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-13 10:18 +0000
                      Re: Dialing 111 from abroad MissRiaElaine <MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> - 2017-01-13 15:52 +0000
                        Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-14 16:03 +0000
                          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad MissRiaElaine <MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> - 2017-01-16 15:24 +0000
                            Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> - 2017-01-16 18:21 +0000
          Re: Dialing 111 from abroad Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> - 2017-01-12 14:18 +0000

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#30707

On 12/01/2017 12:01, Woody wrote:

> Have you thought about getting her a Doro phone - just the ordinary
> phone not the smart one. It has an alarm function which will dial and
> text up to five numbers three times each if the panic button is
> pressed. If the call is answered it asks the caller to press a button
> (#?) to continue so it will not be stopped from dialling the other
> numbers if a TAM answers it. When it is answered by a person it
> automatically goes hands free at high volume/sensitivity. Both my wife
> and her father have them and they love them as phones alone - being a
> clamshell variety the mic is close to the mouth so reduces
> environmental background noise and the audio quality is first class.

Her phone is a Doro, though not the one you mention. As it is I have my 
number set by a long press of the '0' button. Even that goes wrong, 
because sometimes other random accidental button pushes prevent that 
from working, until you 'clear' the screen with the Red 'Hang Up' button 
first.
Then other times she doesn't press the 0 button for long enough, and 
ends up with a series of 0s buffered in, again the red button to clear 
is required.
All of this is in non emergency situations.

Things you and I consider foolproof, are really not quite so !

She copes perfectly with a 25 year old BT landline phone
with 8 memories, probably because she's been using it for 25 years !


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#30700

On 11/01/2017 11:01, Tweed wrote:
> The upshot of the conversation is that they said 111 would not
> "triage" my mother unless the person calling on her behalf was in the same
> house, so there was no point in trying to call from elsewhere.

Actually on the two occasions I remotely called 111 on her behalf, I 
made it clear I wasn't with her, and this presented no problem to
the operator, and later the doctor I spoke to.

> Anyway, I'd
> caution against 111 anyway. Last time I used them they wanted me to drag my
> mother, who had just fallen, into hospital on my own. After giving up on
> them and calling 999 the resultant ambulance crew took her into hospital
> under blue lights and she went straight to the resus bay, bypassing all
> queues. She then spent three weeks in hospital with a serious lung
> infection. I think if I'd followed 111's advice she might have died.

I think it's often just a lottery, depending who you speak to, and what 
mood they are in !


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#30710

Mark Carver <invalid.invalid@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 11/01/2017 11:01, Tweed wrote:
>> The upshot of the conversation is that they said 111 would not
>> "triage" my mother unless the person calling on her behalf was in the same
>> house, so there was no point in trying to call from elsewhere.
> 
> Actually on the two occasions I remotely called 111 on her behalf, I 
> made it clear I wasn't with her, and this presented no problem to
> the operator, and later the doctor I spoke to.
> 
Clearly your area's contractors are less jobsworth than mine. Why these
things can't be done to one consistent national standard I don't know. See
also what you can recycle where in what coloured bag/bin etc. Once upon a
time we had British Standards. Now we have a Balkanised mess.

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#30713

"Tweed" <guesswho@who.com> wrote in message 
news:o58mph$tmc$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> Clearly your area's contractors are less jobsworth than mine. Why these
> things can't be done to one consistent national standard I don't know. See
> also what you can recycle where in what coloured bag/bin etc. Once upon a
> time we had British Standards. Now we have a Balkanised mess.

Don't get me started on rubbish collection rules. Different areas using 
different coloured bins for the same type of rubbish, and some will take 
cardboard as well as paper whereas others won't; likewise for plastic 
bottles. Some want all recycling in one box/bag, others want you to separate 
it - and woe betide you if you accidentally put something in the wrong box. 
We have two crates, one black and the other green. You put glass in one and 
tin cans in the other - and the binmen moan if you forget which colour is 
which and separate the two but put them into the opposite bins. As long as 
one bin contains only cans and the other only glass, does it matter which is 
in the green bin and which in the black?

There needs to be a national standard, preferably recycling collected every 
two weeks and perishable (smelly!) waste collected weekly. Vegetable matter 
can be composted (we do!) but meat etc can't so it and its packaging have to 
go in the general waste bin (which is green, a colour you'd associate with 
recycling). After a fortnight in hot weather, the smell from the wheelie bin 
(even with the lid shut) is vile.

And they've now started charging extra (ie in addition to what you pay in 
community charge) for collecting garden waste - so we take all of that to 
the local tip - one wheelie bin isn't big enough anyway, because we usually 
have a blitz on the garden a few times a year and generate very large 
amounts - and then nothing much for a few months. 

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#30714

On 13/01/17 10:18, NY wrote:
> "Tweed" <guesswho@who.com> wrote in message

> There needs to be a national standard, preferably recycling collected
> every two weeks and perishable (smelly!) waste collected weekly.
> Vegetable matter can be composted (we do!) but meat etc can't so it and
> its packaging have to go in the general waste bin (which is green, a
> colour you'd associate with recycling). After a fortnight in hot
> weather, the smell from the wheelie bin (even with the lid shut) is vile.
>
> And they've now started charging extra (ie in addition to what you pay
> in community charge) for collecting garden waste - so we take all of
> that to the local tip - one wheelie bin isn't big enough anyway, because
> we usually have a blitz on the garden a few times a year and generate
> very large amounts - and then nothing much for a few months.

Makes me glad I live in a council block of flats (not a big one, just 3 
floors with 2 flats to a floor). We have three bins outside the block; 
one for mixed recycling, one for food waste, and one for non-recyclable 
stuff.

They're emptied weekly and we don't have to worry about putting stuff 
out on a particular day.

Ria in Aberdeen

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#30715

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:52:52 +0000, MissRiaElaine
<MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> wrote:

>On 13/01/17 10:18, NY wrote:
>> "Tweed" <guesswho@who.com> wrote in message
>
>> There needs to be a national standard, preferably recycling collected
>> every two weeks and perishable (smelly!) waste collected weekly.
>> Vegetable matter can be composted (we do!) but meat etc can't so it and
>> its packaging have to go in the general waste bin (which is green, a
>> colour you'd associate with recycling). After a fortnight in hot
>> weather, the smell from the wheelie bin (even with the lid shut) is vile.
>>
>> And they've now started charging extra (ie in addition to what you pay
>> in community charge) for collecting garden waste - so we take all of
>> that to the local tip - one wheelie bin isn't big enough anyway, because
>> we usually have a blitz on the garden a few times a year and generate
>> very large amounts - and then nothing much for a few months.
>
>Makes me glad I live in a council block of flats (not a big one, just 3 
>floors with 2 flats to a floor). We have three bins outside the block; 
>one for mixed recycling, one for food waste, and one for non-recyclable 
>stuff.
>
>They're emptied weekly and we don't have to worry about putting stuff 
>out on a particular day.
>
>Ria in Aberdeen

That's a long bus ride from 'Brum. How are you?




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#30719

On 14/01/17 16:03, Graham. wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:52:52 +0000, MissRiaElaine
> <MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 13/01/17 10:18, NY wrote:
>>> "Tweed" <guesswho@who.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> There needs to be a national standard, preferably recycling collected
>>> every two weeks and perishable (smelly!) waste collected weekly.
>>> Vegetable matter can be composted (we do!) but meat etc can't so it and
>>> its packaging have to go in the general waste bin (which is green, a
>>> colour you'd associate with recycling). After a fortnight in hot
>>> weather, the smell from the wheelie bin (even with the lid shut) is vile.
>>>
>>> And they've now started charging extra (ie in addition to what you pay
>>> in community charge) for collecting garden waste - so we take all of
>>> that to the local tip - one wheelie bin isn't big enough anyway, because
>>> we usually have a blitz on the garden a few times a year and generate
>>> very large amounts - and then nothing much for a few months.
>>
>> Makes me glad I live in a council block of flats (not a big one, just 3
>> floors with 2 flats to a floor). We have three bins outside the block;
>> one for mixed recycling, one for food waste, and one for non-recyclable
>> stuff.
>>
>> They're emptied weekly and we don't have to worry about putting stuff
>> out on a particular day.
>>
>> Ria in Aberdeen
>
> That's a long bus ride from 'Brum. How are you?

Not too bad, moved up when I got married last June :-)

Ria

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#30720

On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:24:48 +0000, MissRiaElaine
<MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> wrote:

>On 14/01/17 16:03, Graham. wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:52:52 +0000, MissRiaElaine
>> <MissRiaElaine@thisaddress.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/01/17 10:18, NY wrote:
>>>> "Tweed" <guesswho@who.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> There needs to be a national standard, preferably recycling collected
>>>> every two weeks and perishable (smelly!) waste collected weekly.
>>>> Vegetable matter can be composted (we do!) but meat etc can't so it and
>>>> its packaging have to go in the general waste bin (which is green, a
>>>> colour you'd associate with recycling). After a fortnight in hot
>>>> weather, the smell from the wheelie bin (even with the lid shut) is vile.
>>>>
>>>> And they've now started charging extra (ie in addition to what you pay
>>>> in community charge) for collecting garden waste - so we take all of
>>>> that to the local tip - one wheelie bin isn't big enough anyway, because
>>>> we usually have a blitz on the garden a few times a year and generate
>>>> very large amounts - and then nothing much for a few months.
>>>
>>> Makes me glad I live in a council block of flats (not a big one, just 3
>>> floors with 2 flats to a floor). We have three bins outside the block;
>>> one for mixed recycling, one for food waste, and one for non-recyclable
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> They're emptied weekly and we don't have to worry about putting stuff
>>> out on a particular day.
>>>
>>> Ria in Aberdeen
>>
>> That's a long bus ride from 'Brum. How are you?
>
>Not too bad, moved up when I got married last June :-)
>
>Ria
>

I thought as much when I saw your Gray-Jones sig in another place.

Congratulations.




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#30708

On 10/01/2017 19:58, Graham. wrote:

>> Just tried it, for starters I'm forced to present it as +44 111, and
>> I just get the NU tone
>
> Interesting. Trying Skype from the Android App informs me that all
> emergency calls are routed via the mobile network.
>
> However, trying Skype from the Windows PC App gets a Scots female
> voice "Welcome to NHS24, press 9 to continue"
>
> Whether that would work from a non UK-IP address is a different
> matter.

When you're data roaming abroad (as opposed to simply being on WiFi) you 
normally still do have a UK IP adddress


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