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| Started by | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-12-23 17:22 +0000 |
| Last post | 2017-01-08 00:35 -0500 |
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Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 17:22 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:08 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:12 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:19 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:40 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 02:50 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2016-12-24 12:37 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 03:41 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2016-12-26 14:07 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 14:29 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 07:32 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 16:04 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 16:12 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-12-24 21:48 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2017-01-03 21:18 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 22:14 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 23:20 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:39 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 22:45 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:30 +0100
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:45 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:07 +0100
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 23:12 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:01 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 23:21 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 09:02 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Someone Somewhere <nntpac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:11 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 13:48 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 17:38 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 12:57 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:25 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 18:20 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 08:58 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:35 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 14:38 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chronos <usenet@chronos.org.uk> - 2017-01-07 17:11 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:21 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-07 19:30 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:24 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:46 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 12:01 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:50 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 20:05 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:09 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 11:07 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:34 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 14:10 -0500
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 09:45 -0800
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:05 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:13 +0000
Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:35 -0500
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 00:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <11fwmf4wl7dlw$.1fbfvih2g5tui.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #30654 |
On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote: > ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ... We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 11:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eden49FanjkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #30656 |
On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote: > >> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ... > > We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) > somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow manage not to confuse it with the Automobile Association! -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 12:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <7pGdnakLC6uXt-_FnZ2dnUU78UFQAAAA@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #30659 |
On 08/01/2017 11:46, Roger Mills wrote: > On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote: >> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote: >> >>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ... >> >> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) >> somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp > > But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow manage not to > confuse it with the Automobile Association! I've often felt like calling them when I've been stuck in traffic; there's a time when you really need a drink. -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 11:50 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o4u52b$nuu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30659 |
On 01/08/2017 03:46 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
>>
>>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ...
>>
>> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous)
>> somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>
> But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow manage
> not to confuse it with the Automobile Association!
A drunk has a flat tyre (see, I can spell Brit too!) and makes a call.
Instead of a mechanic in a truck he gets some sympathy and a cup of
coffee. Am I the only one who sees a problem here?
--
Cheers, Bev
"When I was a kid my dad once joked that the best way to
prevent being on a plane with someone carrying a bomb
would be to bring your own bomb and not detonate it.
Sounded convincing. What are the odds that two people
board, each with a bomb?" -- Rowdy
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| From | David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 20:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <LredneMnnePyBu_FnZ2dnUU78L-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #30671 |
On 08/01/2017 19:50, The Real Bev wrote: > On 01/08/2017 03:46 AM, Roger Mills wrote: >> On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote: >>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote: >>> >>>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ... >>> >>> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) >>> somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp >> >> But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow manage >> not to confuse it with the Automobile Association! > > A drunk has a flat tyre (see, I can spell Brit too!) and makes a call. Instead > of a mechanic in a truck he gets some sympathy and a cup of coffee. Am I the > only one who sees a problem here? > That's where you're going wrong, over here the mechanic would arrive also drunk and with the wrong tyre... -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 17:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o4unpp$orc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30672 |
On 01/08/2017 12:05 PM, David Kennedy wrote:
> On 08/01/2017 19:50, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/08/2017 03:46 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
>>> On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ...
>>>>
>>>> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous)
>>>> somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>>>
>>> But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow manage
>>> not to confuse it with the Automobile Association!
>>
>> A drunk has a flat tyre (see, I can spell Brit too!) and makes a call. Instead
>> of a mechanic in a truck he gets some sympathy and a cup of coffee. Am I the
>> only one who sees a problem here?
>
> That's where you're going wrong, over here the mechanic would arrive also
> drunk and with the wrong tyre...
Last time I had occasion to call the (A)AA it was for a blowout in a
parking lot -- rather than when I was driving down the mountain road, a
good thing. Unfortunately my mom had put wheel locks on the car and I
couldn't find the wrench. The (A)AA guys didn't have the proper tool to
crack the damn thing off, so they called a flatbed to take it to my
favorite Discount Ti|yre Store. I would think that a nutcracker would
be a standard tool for (A)AA, but NOOOOO!
When I was getting ready to take the car to the knackers (3 years later)
I found the tool. Feh.
--
Cheers, Bev
"We need to cut more slack for the stupid; after all, somebody has
to populate the lower part of the bell curve." -- Dennis (evil)
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| From | PAS <abc@doremi.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-09 11:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o50ccp$dsh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30674 |
On 1/8/2017 8:09 PM, The Real Bev wrote: > On 01/08/2017 12:05 PM, David Kennedy wrote: >> On 08/01/2017 19:50, The Real Bev wrote: >>> On 01/08/2017 03:46 AM, Roger Mills wrote: >>>> On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ... >>>>> >>>>> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) >>>>> somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . >>>>> Cheers, -- tlvp >>>> >>>> But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow >>>> manage >>>> not to confuse it with the Automobile Association! >>> >>> A drunk has a flat tyre (see, I can spell Brit too!) and makes a >>> call. Instead >>> of a mechanic in a truck he gets some sympathy and a cup of coffee. >>> Am I the >>> only one who sees a problem here? >> >> That's where you're going wrong, over here the mechanic would arrive >> also >> drunk and with the wrong tyre... > > Last time I had occasion to call the (A)AA it was for a blowout in a > parking lot -- rather than when I was driving down the mountain road, > a good thing. Unfortunately my mom had put wheel locks on the car and > I couldn't find the wrench. The (A)AA guys didn't have the proper > tool to crack the damn thing off, so they called a flatbed to take it > to my favorite Discount Ti|yre Store. I would think that a nutcracker > would be a standard tool for (A)AA, but NOOOOO! > > When I was getting ready to take the car to the knackers (3 years > later) I found the tool. Feh. > There's no need for a nutcracker, it's very easy to get a wheel-lock off. Take a socket that doesn't quite fit over the wheel lock and hammer it on, then put the socket wrench on (or breaker bar), and take off the lock.
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| From | Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-09 17:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <edhvt3F54oqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #30679 |
On 09/01/2017 16:07, PAS wrote: > On 1/8/2017 8:09 PM, The Real Bev wrote: >> >> When I was getting ready to take the car to the knackers (3 years >> later) I found the tool. Feh. >> > There's no need for a nutcracker, it's very easy to get a wheel-lock > off. Take a socket that doesn't quite fit over the wheel lock and hammer > it on, then put the socket wrench on (or breaker bar), and take off the > lock. > Except that the better wheel locking nuts have a freely rotating outer ring to stop you from doing that! -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
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| From | PAS <abc@doremi.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-09 14:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o50n41$r7k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30681 |
On 1/9/2017 12:34 PM, Roger Mills wrote: > On 09/01/2017 16:07, PAS wrote: >> On 1/8/2017 8:09 PM, The Real Bev wrote: > >>> >>> When I was getting ready to take the car to the knackers (3 years >>> later) I found the tool. Feh. >>> >> There's no need for a nutcracker, it's very easy to get a wheel-lock >> off. Take a socket that doesn't quite fit over the wheel lock and hammer >> it on, then put the socket wrench on (or breaker bar), and take off the >> lock. >> > > Except that the better wheel locking nuts have a freely rotating outer > ring to stop you from doing that! I'm sure those types of wheel locks have been around for some time but I have to say that I've never seen one.
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| From | The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-09 09:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <o50i4n$7cn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30679 |
On 01/09/2017 08:07 AM, PAS wrote:
> On 1/8/2017 8:09 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/08/2017 12:05 PM, David Kennedy wrote:
>>> On 08/01/2017 19:50, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>> On 01/08/2017 03:46 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
>>>>> On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics
>>>>>> Anonymous) somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy
>>>>>> solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
>>>>>
>>>>> But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and
>>>>> somehow manage not to confuse it with the Automobile
>>>>> Association!
>>>>
>>>> A drunk has a flat tyre (see, I can spell Brit too!) and makes
>>>> a call. Instead of a mechanic in a truck he gets some sympathy
>>>> and a cup of coffee. Am I the only one who sees a problem
>>>> here?
>>>
>>> That's where you're going wrong, over here the mechanic would
>>> arrive also drunk and with the wrong tyre...
>>
>> Last time I had occasion to call the (A)AA it was for a blowout in
>> a parking lot -- rather than when I was driving down the mountain
>> road, a good thing. Unfortunately my mom had put wheel locks on
>> the car and I couldn't find the wrench. The (A)AA guys didn't have
>> the proper tool to crack the damn thing off, so they called a
>> flatbed to take it to my favorite Discount Ti|yre Store. I would
>> think that a nutcracker would be a standard tool for (A)AA, but
>> NOOOOO!
>>
>> When I was getting ready to take the car to the knackers (3 years
>> later) I found the tool. Feh.
>>
> There's no need for a nutcracker, it's very easy to get a wheel-lock
> off. Take a socket that doesn't quite fit over the wheel lock and
> hammer it on, then put the socket wrench on (or breaker bar), and
> take off the lock.
That's probably what the thieves who stole my mom's wheels OUT OF HER
CARPORT did. She had new ones put on the new wheels. I wish she'd
asked my advice before she bought that POS 88 Caddy :-(
--
Cheers, Bev
You know how dumb the average person is?
Well, by definition, half are *even dumber*!
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-01-09 08:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <o4vg84$cdp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30659 |
Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/01/2017 05:24, tlvp wrote: >> On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 19:30:28 +0000, Chris Green wrote: >> >>> ... e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA ... >> >> We must distinguish your AA from our (US) AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) >> somehow, mustn't we? AAA seemed like an easy solution :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp > > But we in the UK also have an Alcoholics Anonymous - and somehow manage > not to confuse it with the Automobile Association! That's why I'm with Green Flag, no confusion at all!
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-01-07 20:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <edd0g6FsubeU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #30645 |
tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:58:14 -0500, nospam wrote: > > > a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call. > > You can assure me there's VOIP available on the highway where I just had my > flat, hence now need to call AAA for help? Happy New Year! Cheers, -- tlvp Whether "there's VOIP available" has only to do with you, your phone, etc.. The location is irrelevant, but of course there must be mobile coverage, which is also needed for a normal non-VOIP - i.e. non-data - voice call. So if you have some kind of data plan, have enabled mobile data and have a VOIP app such as Skype, you will have "VOIP available" everywhere where you have normal (non-VOIP/non-data) voice calling [1]. Happy New Year to you as well. [1] Actually in low-signal areas, VOIP might work better than normal voice or VOIP might work while normal voice won't.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2017-01-08 00:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1v64a21wirds1$.1lyelv668y7rk.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #30655 |
On 7 Jan 2017 20:13:58 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: > tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:58:14 -0500, nospam wrote: >> >>> a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call. >> >> You can assure me there's VOIP available on the highway where I just had my >> flat, hence now need to call AAA for help? Happy New Year! Cheers, -- tlvp > > Whether "there's VOIP available" has only to do with you, your phone, > etc.. The location is irrelevant, but of course there must be mobile > coverage, which is also needed for a normal non-VOIP - i.e. non-data - > voice call. > > So if you have some kind of data plan, have enabled mobile data and > have a VOIP app such as Skype, you will have "VOIP available" everywhere > where you have normal (non-VOIP/non-data) voice calling [1]. > > Happy New Year to you as well. > > [1] Actually in low-signal areas, VOIP might work better than normal > voice or VOIP might work while normal voice won't. Sorry, Frank, you're right of course. I was thinking, though, that I'd only wind up using VOIP over a wi-fi connection, because the proposition was to use VOIP instead of making a voice call using a SIM with very limited voice minutes. Such a SIM has an even more limited allotment of data, no? (Mine, for example, for its trimestrial $10, offers me up to 80 minutes of voice, up to 10 MB of data, or any sub-convex combination thereof.) So wi-fi was all my mind was blinkered to see. /Mea culpa/. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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