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  Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 17:22 +0000
    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:08 -0800
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:12 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:19 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:40 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 02:50 -0800
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2016-12-24 12:37 +0000
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 03:41 -0800
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2016-12-26 14:07 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 14:29 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 07:32 -0800
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 16:04 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 16:12 +0000
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-12-24 21:48 +0000
    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2017-01-03 21:18 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 22:14 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 23:20 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:39 +0000
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 22:45 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:30 +0100
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:45 -0500
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:07 +0100
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 23:12 -0800
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:01 -0500
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 23:21 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 09:02 +0000
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Someone Somewhere <nntpac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:11 +0000
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 13:48 +0000
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 17:38 +0000
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 12:57 -0500
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:25 -0500
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 18:20 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 08:58 -0500
                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:35 -0500
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 14:38 +0000
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chronos <usenet@chronos.org.uk> - 2017-01-07 17:11 +0000
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:21 -0500
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-07 19:30 +0000
                        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:24 -0500
                          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:46 +0000
                            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 12:01 +0000
                            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:50 -0800
                              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 20:05 +0000
                                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:09 -0800
                                  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 11:07 -0500
                                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:34 +0000
                                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 14:10 -0500
                                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 09:45 -0800
                            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:05 +0000
                    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:13 +0000
                      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:35 -0500

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#30632

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 08:30:42 +0100, Poutnik wrote:

> Not only Chinese.
> For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
> The other is just 2G.

And for the older Sony Xperia tipo dual (ST21a2), is it also the same,
would you know? (We've encountered a number of bizarre "can't always use
both SIM slots with two SIMs loaded unless one slot is disabled" problems.)

Thanks for any insights. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#30633

Dne 05/01/2017 v 07:45 tlvp napsal(a):
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 08:30:42 +0100, Poutnik wrote:
> 
>> Not only Chinese.
>> For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
>> The other is just 2G.
> 
> And for the older Sony Xperia tipo dual (ST21a2), is it also the same,
> would you know? (We've encountered a number of bizarre "can't always use
> both SIM slots with two SIMs loaded unless one slot is disabled" problems.)
> 
> Thanks for any insights. Cheers, -- tlvp
> 
My phone often reports after some time after last boot
the 2nd SIM is invalid, what can be fixed by anoother reboot only.
But I used it rarely, it was used because of my parents provider.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )

A wise man guards words he says,
as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.

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#30634

On 01/04/2017 10:45 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 08:30:42 +0100, Poutnik wrote:
>
>> Not only Chinese.
>> For SONY Xperia M dual it is the same.
>> The other is just 2G.
>
> And for the older Sony Xperia tipo dual (ST21a2), is it also the same,
> would you know? (We've encountered a number of bizarre "can't always use
> both SIM slots with two SIMs loaded unless one slot is disabled" problems.)
>
> Thanks for any insights. Cheers, -- tlvp

https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*

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#30635

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:

> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html

Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby difference.

>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*

Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position, so that
the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#30636

On 01/05/2017 09:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html
>
> Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby difference.

I was interested because I thought my next phone should have dual-SIM 
capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile account in one 
and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I make very few 
actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The bad part, of 
course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that have external 
sdcard capability.

Best Buy, however, had a Moto X Pure on sale today for $274 (or close) 
with a single SIM, 64GB internal memory and an sdcard slot.  Gone now, 
but I at least thought about it.

>>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*
>
> Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position, so that
> the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .

Compound adjectives are always hyphenated.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Ride faster, I hear banjo music!

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#30637

"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:o4ngfl$k1i$1@dont-email.me...
> On 01/05/2017 09:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html
>>
>> Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby 
>> difference.
>
> I was interested because I thought my next phone should have 
> dual-SIM capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile 
> account in one and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I 
> make very few actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The 
> bad part, of course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that 
> have external sdcard capability.
>
> Best Buy, however, had a Moto X Pure on sale today for $274 (or 
> close) with a single SIM, 64GB internal memory and an sdcard slot. 
> Gone now, but I at least thought about it.
>
>>>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*
>>
>> Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position, 
>> so that
>> the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .
>
> Compound adjectives are always hyphenated.
>
> -- 

Dear Contributor,
Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
We use GBP not USD
The range of products in the US is probably larger and definitely 
different from those available here
The prices in the UK are generally higher than in the US
Our market has a different structure and methodology to the US - for 
instance we don't pay to receive calls

What is a Moto X Pure?

What is a T-Mobile $10/year prepaid account? We either pay a fixed 
contract monthly amount of pay-as-you-go with limitations on the 
maximum period of non-use.


-- 
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com 

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#30638

On 06/01/2017 09:02, Woody wrote:
>
> Dear Contributor,
> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>
And you missed the point this was x-posted to comp.mobile.android....

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#30639

-- 
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com
"Someone Somewhere" <nntpac@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:o4nmv9$122b$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 06/01/2017 09:02, Woody wrote:
>>
>> Dear Contributor,
>> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>>
> And you missed the point this was x-posted to 
> comp.mobile.android....


Which was why I replied to all groups. Anyway what is he doing on a UK 
group talking about something of which we know not?



-- 
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com 

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#30641

On 01/06/2017 01:02 AM, Woody wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o4ngfl$k1i$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 01/05/2017 09:01 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:12:17 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.gogi.in/difference-dual-active-dual-standby.html
>>>
>>> Thanks. A pretty clear delineation of the active/standby
>>> difference.
>>
>> I was interested because I thought my next phone should have
>> dual-SIM capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile
>> account in one and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I
>> make very few actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The
>> bad part, of course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that
>> have external sdcard capability.
>>
>> Best Buy, however, had a Moto X Pure on sale today for $274 (or
>> close) with a single SIM, 64GB internal memory and an sdcard slot.
>> Gone now, but I at least thought about it.
>>
>>>>     *Are you *sure* there's a hyphen in "anal-retentive?"*
>>>
>>> Of course -- that hyphen's being anally retained in that position,
>>> so that
>>> the word you cite serves to illustrate its own meaning :-0 .
>>
>> Compound adjectives are always hyphenated.
>
> Dear Contributor,
> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-

This thread is x-posted into the US group.  No idea who started it.

> We use GBP not USD
> The range of products in the US is probably larger and definitely
> different from those available here
> The prices in the UK are generally higher than in the US
> Our market has a different structure and methodology to the US - for
> instance we don't pay to receive calls

Perhaps it all balances out then.

> What is a Moto X Pure?

A Motorola Moto X Pure cell phone.  I'm currently satisfied with my Moto 
G(2) phone, but more power/storage is always nice.

> What is a T-Mobile $10/year prepaid account?

Through T-Mobile for $10US/year you get ~30 additional minutes which 
keep rolling over as long as you keep buying $10 worth of minutes 
annually.  The plan is no longer offered, but we lucky few were 
grandfathered in.  I live in fear that they'll completely cancel the 
plan because the next jump up is significantly more for minutes I don't 
need.

> We either pay a fixed
> contract monthly amount of pay-as-you-go with limitations on the
> maximum period of non-use.

Similar here, but I'd be willing to bet that there are over 100 
different plans available from various providers.  I just happen to have 
the very cheapest one!

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "On the other hand, I live in California so I'd be willing to
    squeeze schoolchildren to death if I thought some oil would
    come out."                                    -- Scott Adams

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#30642

On 06/01/2017 17:06, The Real Bev wrote:


>> Dear Contributor,
>> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>
> This thread is x-posted into the US group. No idea who started it.
>

I did! I'm in the UK and thus posted it to uk.telecom.mobile - but also 
cross-posted it to comp.mobile.android (which incidentally is 
international, not just US) on the basis that Moto G2s are used in a 
number of countries.
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
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Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom 
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#30643

In article <o4oino$cpp$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> > What is a T-Mobile $10/year prepaid account?
> 
> Through T-Mobile for $10US/year you get ~30 additional minutes which 
> keep rolling over as long as you keep buying $10 worth of minutes 
> annually.  The plan is no longer offered, but we lucky few were 
> grandfathered in.  I live in fear that they'll completely cancel the 
> plan because the next jump up is significantly more for minutes I don't 
> need.

the plan is still offered, the only difference is that it now has a
$3/mo minimum because of people like yourself who keep a phone number
active yet never actually use it, which costs t-mobile money.

since most people make more than 10-30 minutes of calls (the per minute
rate can vary), that minimum is not normally an issue. 

> > We either pay a fixed
> > contract monthly amount of pay-as-you-go with limitations on the
> > maximum period of non-use.
> 
> Similar here, but I'd be willing to bet that there are over 100 
> different plans available from various providers.  I just happen to have 
> the very cheapest one!

actually, you don't have the very cheapest one, that being entirely
free.

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#30644

On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 09:02:41 -0000, Woody wrote:

> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
> We use GBP not USD

I suppose uk.t.m is a UK group. But what you respond to appeared both there
and in comp.mobile.android, which suffers no such restriction, and at least
I am responding via the latter, as I imagine was The Real Bev, as well. Do
permit us to respond in our own currencies, please, without first
converting to yours :-) . Thank you. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#30647

On 01/06/2017 04:25 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 09:02:41 -0000, Woody wrote:
>
>> Please bear in mind that this is a UK group so:-
>> We use GBP not USD
>
> I suppose uk.t.m is a UK group. But what you respond to appeared both there
> and in comp.mobile.android, which suffers no such restriction, and at least
> I am responding via the latter, as I imagine was The Real Bev, as well. Do
> permit us to respond in our own currencies, please, without first
> converting to yours :-) . Thank you. Cheers, -- tlvp

Can't we all just get along?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
   Is the Pope Catholic?  Do bears shit in the woods?
   Did Rose Kennedy have a black dress?

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#30640

In article <o4ngfl$k1i$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I was interested because I thought my next phone should have dual-SIM 
> capability so I could use my $10/year prepaid T-Mobile account in one 
> and a Freedompop data SIM in the other.  Given that I make very few 
> actual phone calls, I wouldn't have a conflict.  The bad part, of 
> course, is that there are no cheap dual-SIM phones that have external 
> sdcard capability.

a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call.

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#30645

On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:58:14 -0500, nospam wrote:

> a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call.

You can assure me there's VOIP available on the highway where I just had my
flat, hence now need to call AAA for help? Happy New Year! Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#30646

In article <1jlutm3rsab99.1m1yesssqqqbv.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp
<mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:

> 
> > a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call.
> 
> You can assure me there's VOIP available on the highway where I just had my
> flat, hence now need to call AAA for help? Happy New Year! Cheers, -- tlvp

buy a jack and change your own tires. 10-15 minutes later and you're on
your way.

that'll be done well before aaa (or anyone else for that matter) shows
up, and if you're many miles from the nearest service, it could be a
*really* long wait for that someone to get to you.

but to answer your question, if there's cellular service for making
voice calls, then there's cellular data to use voip. it's a complete
non-issue that you've made up. 

not only that, but if you're worried about calling for help, then you
don't even need an active service plan. all cellphones must be able to
call 911. you don't need anything more than a working phone.

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#30650

On 07/01/2017 00:35, tlvp wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:58:14 -0500, nospam wrote:
>
>> a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call.
>
> You can assure me there's VOIP available on the highway where I just had my
> flat, hence now need to call AAA for help? Happy New Year! Cheers, -- tlvp

For the sake of British readers, a flat is a puncture - not an apartment 
and AAA refers to the American Automobile Association rather than being 
a small battery. <g>
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
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#30651

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:38:42 +0000
Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote:

> For the sake of British readers, a flat is a puncture - not an
> apartment and AAA refers to the American Automobile Association
> rather than being a small battery. <g>

Those of us who aren't drooling xenophobes being wilfully obtuse -
a bit like the president elect - know already ;-)

Joking aside, in this era of declining Usenet use, any post is welcome
in the uk.* groups and you should be thanked for your input.
-- 
Your grandeur passes, and your pageantry, 
Your lordships pass, your kingdoms pass; and Time
Disposes wilfully of mortal things.

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#30653

On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:38:42 +0000, Roger Mills wrote:

> For the sake of British readers, a flat is a puncture - not an apartment 
> and AAA refers to the American Automobile Association rather than being 
> a small battery. <g>

Thank you, Roger :-) . Let me expand just a bit on the term flat as used in
the USA for tires/tyres: it may well refer to a puncture; or to a blown-out
sidewall; or to a detached tread; or to a rim beaten so out of shape by a
curbstone as to have lost the integrity of ts airseal with the tyre/tire.

As for AAA ... well, context counts for a  lot, doesn't it :-) ? 

In any event, to start the new year off on the right foot, my apologies to
all whom I may have confused, offended, or otherwise upset.

Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#30654

In comp.mobile.android Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/01/2017 00:35, tlvp wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:58:14 -0500, nospam wrote:
> >
> >> a much easier solution is use voip for the occasional voice call.
> >
> > You can assure me there's VOIP available on the highway where I just had my
> > flat, hence now need to call AAA for help? Happy New Year! Cheers, -- tlvp
> 
> For the sake of British readers, a flat is a puncture - not an apartment 
> and AAA refers to the American Automobile Association rather than being 
> a small battery. <g>

It's not unheard of to call a puncture 'a flat', we certainly talk
about having 'a flat tyre'.

As regards AAA we just assume anything we know about but with an extra
A (or other letter) is the yanks trying to go one better!  :-)

e.g. our AA (Automobile Association) becomes the AAA, our IEE becomes
IEEE, etc.  :-)

-- 
Chris Green
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