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  FTTP install. newman <aa111@despammed.com> - 2026-06-28 18:59 +0100
    Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-06-29 00:32 +0100
      Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-29 08:06 +0100
        Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-06-29 14:18 +0100
          Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-29 20:19 +0100
            Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-06-29 23:07 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-30 10:45 +0100
                Re: FTTP install. Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> - 2026-07-08 09:40 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-08 09:48 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2026-06-30 11:17 +0100
        Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-29 17:28 +0100
      Re: FTTP install. newman <aa111@despammed.com> - 2026-06-29 11:38 +0100
        Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-06-29 14:09 +0100
          Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-02 18:59 +0100
            Re: FTTP install. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-09-02 19:51 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-03 02:25 +0100
                Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 06:03 +0000
                  Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 08:49 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 07:58 +0000
                      Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 08:08 +0000
                        Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:24 +0100
                          Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 08:38 +0000
                            Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:07 +0100
                              Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 13:21 +0000
                                Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:55 +0100
                                  Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 14:23 +0000
                      Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 09:19 +0100
                        Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 08:35 +0000
                          Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 10:12 +0100
                        USO (was: Re: FTTP install.) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:09 +0100
                  ISP/ICP requirements (was: Re: FTTP install.) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:25 +0100
                    Re: ISP/ICP requirements (was: Re: FTTP install.) Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 13:44 +0000
                      Re: ISP/ICP requirements "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:57 +0100
                    Re: ISP/ICP requirements Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-09-03 16:05 +0100
                    Re: ISP/ICP requirements David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-03 17:16 +0100
            Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-02 20:54 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-02 22:42 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-03 02:25 +0100
                Re: FTTP install. Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 10:54 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-03 11:49 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 11:11 +0000
                      Re: FTTP install. Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-09-03 12:20 +0100
                        Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 12:34 +0100
                          Re: FTTP install. Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-03 14:35 +0100
                            Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:57 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:31 +0100
            Re: FTTP install. Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-09-03 04:28 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-03 11:55 +0100
                Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 12:16 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-09-03 11:24 +0000
                    Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 12:30 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-03 14:33 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 15:03 +0100
                Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-09 12:10 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-09 12:34 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-09 13:04 +0100
                      Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-09 14:19 +0100
                        Re: FTTP install. David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-09 15:47 +0100
                        Re: FTTP install. richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-09-09 16:54 +0000
                    Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-09 14:19 +0100
                      Re: FTTP install. richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-09-09 16:59 +0000
                        Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-09 18:13 +0100
                        Re: FTTP install. Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-09-10 09:09 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-09 14:23 +0100
                      Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-09 14:32 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-09-09 13:05 +0100
                    Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-09 13:18 +0100
                  Re: FTTP install. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-09-28 18:16 +0100
            Re: FTTP install. Trolleybus <ken@birchanger.com> - 2026-09-03 09:27 +0100
              Re: FTTP install. Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-09-03 10:47 +0100
                Re: FTTP install. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 12:18 +0100
                  Static address longevity (was: FTTP install) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-09-03 14:02 +0100
                    Re: Static address longevity Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-03 15:33 +0100
          Re: FTTP install. Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-09-03 14:11 +0100

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#57725

In article <1s16a2s.blxx3f1vywpxlN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
Sn!pe <snipeco.1@gmail.com> wrote:

>I could have ordered 1,600Mbps for Ł45!

My router, which has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port, only connects at 1Gbps
to the (7 year old) ONT.  I wonder if they have to replace the ONT for
speeds above 1Gbps?

-- Richard

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#57726

Richard Tobin wrote:

> Sn!pe wrote:
> 
>> I could have ordered 1,600Mbps for Ł45!
> 
> My router, which has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port, only connects at 1Gbps
> to the (7 year old) ONT.  I wonder if they have to replace the ONT for
> speeds above 1Gbps?
yes, for 1.6Gbps GPON (or the newer XGSPON) they fit an ONT with 2.5Gb 
ethernet

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#57733

Richard Tobin <richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> In article <1s16a2s.blxx3f1vywpxlN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
> Sn!pe <snipeco.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >I could have ordered 1,600Mbps for ?45!
> 
> My router, which has a 2.5Gbps ethernet port, only connects at 1Gbps
> to the (7 year old) ONT.  I wonder if they have to replace the ONT for
> speeds above 1Gbps?
> 
My 'as supplied' ONT from CityFibre has a 10Gbps port which actually
connects at 10GBps to my router. I only have a 1200/1200 FTTP service
though (I can uprade to 2500).

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#57719

On 2026/9/9 12:34:47, Andy Burns wrote:
> Sn!pe wrote:
> 
>> I've just placed an order for Full Fibre 900
> 
> 900Mbps!  900Mbps?
> 
> Have you invested in a matter transporter for sending birthday presents 
> to your grand-snipelings down-under?
> 
Does that include any VoIP?
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Her [Valerie Singleton's] main job on /Blue Peter/ was to stop
unpredictable creatres running amok. And that was just John Noakes.
- Alison Pearson, RT 2014/9/6-12

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#57720

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

> On 2026/9/9 12:34:47, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Sn!pe wrote:
> > 
> >> I've just placed an order for Full Fibre 900
> > 
> > 900Mbps!  900Mbps?
> > 
> > Have you invested in a matter transporter for sending birthday presents
> > to your grand-snipelings down-under?
> > 
> Does that include any VoIP?

I don't know, I declined fixed line service.  We haven't used the
existing POTS service for a while; it was only receiving nuisance 
calls so we've done without. 

-- 
Sn!pe, birdbrain.              My pet rock Gordon just is.
 

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#57715

On 09/09/2026 12:10, Sn!pe wrote:
> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> My wife spoke to one of the linemen yesterday, he told her it was BT
>> and that we should expect a letter in about a month.  I guess that will
>> be to offer BT Internet.  Meanwhile I'll keep prodding Zen rather than
>> waiting for them to contact me.
>>
> 
> Five days later, Zen have contacted me.  I've just placed an order for
> Full Fibre 900, 24 month contract at £39 per month.  It's due to be
> installed in just under three weeks, very pleasing.
> 
you should have asked for a referal code. Its worth £40 to both parties

Dave

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#57716

David Wade wrote:

> you should have asked for a referal code.

Even though he's an existing Zen customer?

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#57797

Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > My wife spoke to one of the linemen yesterday, he told her it was BT
> > and that we should expect a letter in about a month.  I guess that will
> > be to offer BT Internet.  Meanwhile I'll keep prodding Zen rather than
> > waiting for them to contact me.
> >
> 
> Five days later, Zen have contacted me.  I've just placed an order for
> Full Fibre 900, 24 month contract at £39 per month.  It's due to be
> installed in just under three weeks, very pleasing.
>

19 days later and it's in - 912 Mb/s down, 114 Mb/s up, 7ms ping to Zen.
The M J Quinn techie was pleasant, accommodating and efficient; it was
all done in less than two hours, brilliant.

-- 
Sn!pe, birdbrain.              My pet rock Gordon just is.
 

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#57650

On Wed, 2 Sep 2026 18:59:14 +0100, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

>Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> newman <aa111@despammed.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > On 29/06/2026 00:32, Sn!pe wrote:
>> > > newman <aa111@despammed.com> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > >> After asking a few questions here, I finally had FF installed on
>> > >> Thursday. Although the landline was UG cable, various garden changes
>> > >> meant that the only viable route was overhead from the original pole.
>> > >> The Openreach engineer was a 40 year service guy and made a really great
>> > >> job, both inside and out. Lots of iced lemonade kept him hydrated for
>> > >> the 4 hours plus time he took. The contacted speeds were below spec but
>> > >> he advised to change the Ethernet cable to Cat6 and that did the trick.
>> > >> Now on 150 Mbps for £22 per month. To have continued with FTTC would
>> > >> have been £41. Very happy.
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards.
>> > >>
>> > > 
>> > > Openreach serves many ISPs, which one gives you that deal, newman?
>> > > 
>> > Vodafone via Moneysavingexpert referral link
>> > 
>> > Regards
>> >
>> 
>> I've saved this post for when FTTP becomes available here 
>> (soon, I hope).  
>> 
>> Thank you, newman.
>>
>
>BT have begun pulling fibre in our road, hooray!
>
>I'm wondering whether to stick with Zen (their FTTC has been very good)
>or seek a deal from another supplier.  Does anybody here have any
>thoughts on this?

I stayed with Zen and was pleasantly surprised to find that I kept my
fixed IP address.

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#57655

Trolleybus wrote:

[snip]

> 
> I stayed with Zen and was pleasantly surprised to find that I kept my
> fixed IP address.

I would be horrified if this didn't happen!

The only thing that changes is the pathway into their authentication 
server.  Once the FTTC and FTTP traffic is carried over Ethernet it's 
the same route thereafter, so the authentication server sees the same 
request and gives out the same IP.



-- 
Graham J

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#57665

Graham J wrote:

> Trolleybus wrote:
> 
>> I stayed with Zen and was pleasantly surprised to find that I kept my
>> fixed IP address.
> 
> I would be horrified if this didn't happen!
I will be annoyed if I don't keep my /29 when FTTP lands here.

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#57674 — Static address longevity (was: FTTP install)

Andy Burns wrote:

> Graham J wrote:

>> Trolleybus wrote:

>>> I stayed with Zen and was pleasantly surprised to find that I kept my
>>> fixed IP address.

>> I would be horrified if this didn't happen!

> I will be annoyed if I don't keep my /29 when FTTP lands here.

I had the same /29 for 24 years with Zen, preserved across various
technology changes (including to FTTP a couple of years ago) and a
house move.  Then last month they changed it as part of a
reorganisation of their IPv4 address space.  (My IPv6 allocation
didn't change.)

Initially I was horrified when I received the notice, but in the end
the change-over was not too difficult.  The biggest annoyance was that
I couldn't set up rDNS on the new addresses until after the address
change had happened.  (Their rDNS web page will only accept a domain
name whose forward DNS matches.)  I reduced the TTL on forward DNS to
30 mins ahead of time, but the TTL on their rDNS records is fixed at
24 hours, so I had to make sure I didn't try to send any outgoing
mail until the change had propagated.

-- 
Geoff Clare <netnews@gclare.org.uk>

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#57688 — Re: Static address longevity

Geoff Clare wrote:

> The biggest annoyance was that
> I couldn't set up rDNS on the new addresses until after the address
> change had happened.

That's one thing I worry about, with the portal hardly even being a 
shadow of a shadow these days, does anyone left at PN know about reverse 
DNS?  Hopefully Bob's not retiring yet?

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#57675

snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes:

> newman <aa111@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>> On 29/06/2026 00:32, Sn!pe wrote:
>> > newman <aa111@despammed.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> After asking a few questions here, I finally had FF installed on
>> >> Thursday. Although the landline was UG cable, various garden
>> >> changes meant that the only viable route was overhead from the
>> >> original pole.  The Openreach engineer was a 40 year service guy
>> >> and made a really great job, both inside and out. Lots of iced
>> >> lemonade kept him hydrated for the 4 hours plus time he took. The
>> >> contacted speeds were below spec but he advised to change the
>> >> Ethernet cable to Cat6 and that did the trick.  Now on 150 Mbps
>> >> for £22 per month. To have continued with FTTC would have been
>> >> £41. Very happy.
>> >>
>> >> Regards.
>> >>
>> > 
>> > Openreach serves many ISPs, which one gives you that deal, newman?
>> > 
>> Vodafone via Moneysavingexpert referral link
>> 
>> Regards
>>
>
> I've saved this post for when FTTP becomes available here (soon, I
> hope).
>
> Thank you, newman.

I'd check their customer service ratings too. You may not find out about
that until something goes wrong.

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