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Re: OT - TV

From John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc, uk.tech.broadcast
Subject Re: OT - TV
Date 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
Message-ID <nj20ndF6jcU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 11/10/2026 18:35, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/10/11 16:54:43, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-10-11, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2026 9:23 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> []
>
>>>> That's not fair! English is not his first language.
>
> Yes, and I try to make allowances. Sometimes, however, the
> non-native-speaker _does_ speak English so well that it's easy to forget
> - Carlos being a good example. (I think the "2000 thousand" was just a
> slip of the mind, the sort that we native-speakers also make.)
>
>>>
>>> Correct .... and the only way he/one can improve themselves is to be
>>> corrected when they make an error. Isn't that what Teachers are paid to
>
> That I do agree with. Any correction I make - unless the error-er is
> being particularly obnoxious - is made with educational intent, to help
> the error-maker get it right, and thus get less disrespect, in future.
> (And anyone else reading who might also be prone to make that error,
> especially if it's a common type.)
>
>>> do .... Oh, and Parents, too, although their Pay might not be so good. ;-)
>
> :-)
>
>>
>> Still, the best teachers manage to point out errors without
>> making someone feel like an idiot.  Abusive language may be
>> satisfying, but only for the abuser.  It certainly doesn't
>> accomplish the goal.
>
> I try to show _why_ the error is wrong - with humour, if possible, in
> the hope that that will _help_ anyone remember.
>
>>
>>>> And a typical meter is only about 4cm high and comes with a red lead and
>>>> a black lead. :-)
>>>
>>> Oh!! That must be Modern Tech .... when I used AVO meters (thirty-odd
>>> years ago) they were six cm or more deep. ;-P
>
> More like 10-15 IME!
>
>>>
>>> But the Red and Black leads were pretty common. (I think I had a Green
>>> lead at one stage.)
>>
>>     Red to red and black to black
>>     Switch it on and stand well back
>>
> Not heard that one!
>
> green to green or red to red - proceed with caution, slow ahead;
> red to green or green to red - perfect safety, go ahead.
>
> Running lights for boats/ships - I think I got it from my father, who
> spend a little time in the navy. Unfortunately, I'm never sure whether
> I've got it the right way round! (I _think_ I have - if contrasting
> colours, then the other vessel is going in the same direction as you, so
> collision would be less catastrophic.)
>
When boats ahead, show your red.

The full rules are 21 pages of legalese...

-- 
Tciao for Now!

John.

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Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:08 +0100
  Re: OT - TV Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:58 +0100
    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:30 +0100
      Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-27 09:39 +0100
      Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-09-28 08:08 +0100
  Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:10 +0000
    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:02 +0100
      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:03 +0100
        Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
            Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
                OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:25 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 +0000
                Song of the Track/Ceol na Loidhne JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-09 15:27 +0100
                Re: Song of the Track/Ceol na Loidhne Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> - 2026-10-10 09:23 +0100
                Re: Song of the Track/Ceol na Loidhne John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-10 10:37 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
                Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
    Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
        Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
          Re: OT - TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 21:51 +0200
            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:47 +1100
              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:47 +0100
              Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-12 11:58 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:37 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:17 +0100
    [OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
      Re: [OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 22:22 +0200
  Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
      Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
        Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
          Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
            Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-28 15:56 +0100
            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
              Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-28 17:16 +0100
              Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-29 13:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-30 10:22 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:36 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-01 13:10 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:42 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-03 21:10 +1000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:39 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 21:26 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:19 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:36 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 12:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 15:59 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 15:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 17:19 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 01:27 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 07:55 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:54 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:17 +0000
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-05 11:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-05 11:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-06 17:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 18:58 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:36 +0200
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-07 09:00 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:21 +0200
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-07 11:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:37 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:51 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:22 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:33 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:20 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:20 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:34 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 21:15 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 11:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 22:15 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:35 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 20:10 +0100
                Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-11 20:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:11 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 02:24 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 07:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 03:13 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:07 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-13 22:36 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:55 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:09 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 17:58 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:18 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:59 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0200
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-11 22:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:46 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:11 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 22:35 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 01:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 06:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:27 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:40 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:54 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:10 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:06 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:09 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 22:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:09 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:21 +0000
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:16 +0200
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:00 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:28 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:51 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-14 00:32 -0400
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:26 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:58 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:43 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 08:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:04 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:21 +0200
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-14 09:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:48 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:32 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-13 16:28 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:36 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:07 +0000
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-14 09:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:59 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:16 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 23:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 23:52 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:39 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-14 03:21 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:18 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:42 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 08:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 04:42 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:18 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:25 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:34 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:31 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 13:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 13:31 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:48 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:50 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:14 +0000
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-14 16:09 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-14 11:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 19:16 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:00 -0500
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:19 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-10-13 17:06 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:01 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 17:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 17:45 +0000
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 17:44 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:25 +0200
                Re: OT - TV wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-10-13 11:21 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:38 +0100
                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 16:55 +0000
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-14 16:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-10-14 09:57 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 13:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV wolfgang s <see@sig.nature> - 2026-10-14 21:56 +0000
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-15 12:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 23:14 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-15 12:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:32 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 14:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-15 16:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:22 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-15 17:24 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-16 14:04 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-16 18:31 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-17 11:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-18 17:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-18 17:53 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-18 17:55 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-18 18:18 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:16 +0200
                Re: OT - TV richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-10-16 13:15 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 15:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-17 23:09 +1100
                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-18 10:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:14 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 12:03 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-12 12:07 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:27 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:46 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:57 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:11 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:26 +0200
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-10 03:38 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:35 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-10 12:44 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-10 13:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:01 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 05:23 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:21 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:56 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:18 +1100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:30 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 10:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:24 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0200
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-12 19:26 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:40 +0100
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:03 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:20 +0100
                Re: OT - TV chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-16 16:14 -0500
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-17 01:01 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 19:45 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-12 19:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:19 +0100
                Re: OT - TV chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-16 16:13 -0500
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:22 +0200
                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:05 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:56 +0200
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-08 15:44 +0100
                [OT] hybrids (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:12 +0100
                Re: [OT] hybrids liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-08 22:42 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:00 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:06 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-10-07 15:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-08 15:49 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:12 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:17 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-10-09 08:12 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-10 04:21 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-10 08:25 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:54 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:40 -0400
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 08:02 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 12:47 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 00:23 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:59 +1100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 18:41 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-03 22:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 21:24 -0400
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 08:08 +0000
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-04 09:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-30 15:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-29 13:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:54 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:15 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:27 +0200
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 11:13 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 11:19 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-30 13:29 +0100
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 13:54 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-30 18:08 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:22 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:37 +0000
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-01 10:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-01 09:41 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:37 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:50 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 13:08 +0000
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:50 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 03:29 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:53 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 03:32 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:49 +0200
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:57 +0100
                Re: OT - TV liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-10-01 13:27 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:19 +0200
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:34 +0000
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:52 +0000
                Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 07:52 +0100
                Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 03:15 -0400
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:51 +0100
                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:16 +0100
                Re: OT - TV Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> - 2026-10-16 18:22 +0000
                Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-16 20:32 +0100
                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-17 01:55 +0100
  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:12 +0200

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