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Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!)

From Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Newsgroups uk.tech.broadcast
Subject Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!)
Date 2026-09-27 21:54 +0100
Organization https://www.Brian-Gregory.me.uk/
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On 27/09/2026 15:47, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 26/09/2026 19:49, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/09/2026 11:03, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>>> For medium wave, the German army had mobile medium wave transmitters
>>>>> with a mast high of 72m. Such a facility could be used for LW too.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://vm.schwaben-tech-park.de/geschichte-n/telefunken-virtuelles-
>>>>> museum-story/telefunken-mittelwellensender
>>>> AIUI these were what they used to broadcast Lord Haw-Haw's propaganda
>>>> towards us. The idea being they could move them around before we could
>>>> DF them and bomb them.
>>>
>>> I doubt if a mobile MW transmitter would have put out enough power to be
>>> heard clearly in England.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I tracked down where I got the idea from:
>>
>> https://jonathanmarks.libsyn.com/media_network_wartime_deception_part_1
> 
> Absolutely fascinating, I'll be listening to the whole series.
> 
> I think there has been a bit of confusion about the 'Lord Haw-Haw'
> broadcasts; the 31 metre band which he announced is not medium wave.
> Mobile stations with relatively small aerials wouldn't be heard by the
> average listener in England on medium wave, they would have to use a
> much bigger aerial and earthing system which would take days to set up
> and dismantle.
> 
> The very mobile stations with small portable aerials could only have
> been effective on shortwave for distant broacasting or on medium wave
> for local broadcasting.
> 
> 

Yes, I should have said, when I was searching for this I came to the 
conclusion that you were correct and that the person interviewed in 
Wartime Deception part 1 was muddling up two different kinds of German 
propaganda broadcast. In fact other info I found suggests that:

A. The mobile transmitters were up to 20kW each, though three could be 
used together to get 60kW, but that probably didn't happen often.

B. The mobile transmitters were used only for the false flag "black 
propaganda" broadcasts like "Workers' Challenge".

C. The Lord Haw Haw broadcasts, and probably the other "white 
propaganda" broadcasts like "Home Sweet Home" and "Vision of Freedom" 
that were aimed at the USA on short-wave were sent from normal fixed 
transmitters.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-06-05 10:00 +0100
  Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-09-26 12:03 +0200
    Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-26 16:44 +0100
      Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-26 19:49 +0100
        Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:20 +0100
          Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-27 15:47 +0100
            Re: Long Wave (not Radio 4 LW close!) Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-09-27 21:54 +0100

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