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the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish

Started byHarold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid>
First post2016-05-19 10:11 +0000
Last post2016-05-22 03:56 -0700
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  the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> - 2016-05-19 10:11 +0000
    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> - 2016-05-19 10:27 +0000
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-19 12:33 +0200
        Re: the "unnameable"... Vidcapper <vidcapper1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-05-19 14:54 +0100
    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-05-19 11:37 +0100
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish lawrence13@sky.com - 2016-05-22 03:56 -0700
    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> - 2016-05-19 13:08 +0100
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-19 14:24 +0200
    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Norman Rowling <geegaaxx@virgin.net> - 2016-05-19 14:30 +0100
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish frederick <fakeemail@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 12:01 +0100
        Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> - 2016-05-20 11:47 +0000
          Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "anorak" <ssos@meet_the_inbred.com> - 2016-05-20 07:01 -0500
            Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish JNugent <jenningsltd@fastmail.fm> - 2016-05-20 20:56 +0100
              Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-21 13:57 +0200
                Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Sid." <a.89396@ymail.com> - 2016-05-21 13:01 +0100
                  Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-21 14:06 +0200
                    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Sid." <a.89396@ymail.com> - 2016-05-21 13:12 +0100
              Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish frederick <fakeemail@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 15:11 +0100
                Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish JNugent <jenningsltd@fastmail.fm> - 2016-05-22 22:31 +0100
    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Barclay Weir <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2016-05-19 16:33 +0100
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-05-19 17:53 +0100
        Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 18:13 +0100
          Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-05-19 22:11 +0100
            Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 10:44 +0100
              Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-05-20 11:38 +0100
                Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 15:02 +0100
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "Ophelia" <OphElsinore@gmail.com> - 2016-05-19 18:11 +0100
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> - 2016-05-19 18:45 +0000
      Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Juan Carr <juan.carr@gmx.com> - 2016-05-19 19:57 +0100
        Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Barclay Weir <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2016-05-19 20:40 +0100
        Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-20 10:19 +0200
          Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> - 2016-05-20 10:06 +0100
            Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-20 11:15 +0200
              Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> - 2016-05-22 17:09 +0100
                Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-22 18:14 +0200
                Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Oswald <oswald.kripp@yahoo.ne> - 2016-05-22 15:54 -0400
            Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> - 2016-05-20 11:44 +0000
              Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish "anorak" <ssos@meet_the_inbred.com> - 2016-05-20 06:57 -0500
              Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> - 2016-05-22 13:35 +0100
                Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-22 14:49 +0200
                  Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> - 2016-05-22 22:51 +0100
                    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> - 2016-05-23 00:35 +0200
    Re: the "unnameable" Elton John and David Furnish lawrence13@sky.com - 2016-05-22 03:56 -0700

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#739351

FromYitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr>
Date2016-05-22 22:51 +0100
Message-ID<67m91d-vhm.ln1@server.com.il>
In reply to#739274
abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2016 13:35:12 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
> <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> 
>>Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> wrote:
>>> Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> wrote in
>>> news:6m031d-456.ln1@server.com.il: 
>>>> abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>> i'm glad to see the cameron government is committed to introducing a uk
>>>>> bill of rights
>>
>>>> The 'Cameron government' is 'committed' to no such thing.
>> 
>>> Yes it is - in its recent statement of its legislative programme, read
>>> out by the monarch.
>>> 
>>> Whether it would be worth the paper it's written on is another matter.
>>
>>Which was my point.  Cameron is a proven liar.  Why should this 'promise'
>>be any different from the others he has made and broken? 
> 
> i look forward to your list...

I have already provided it - the first time I did so, being 01 October 2014
in the thread, 'Cameron's Lies start 'now'... 

	'September 2010, he claimed that the Royal Colleges of General
	Practitioners, Physicians and Nursing supported his health "reforms".
	Lie.  They all opposed it.

	June 2011, he said, "We will not endanger universal coverage - we will
	make sure it remains a National Health Service".  Lie.  The NHS is
	currently being broken up into "GP Commissioning Groups".

	Before the last general election, he promised 3000 more midwives.  Lie.
	The numbers have been reduced by 3%.  

	January 2012, Prime Minister's Question Time, he claimed that there are
	more people in work than at the previous election.  Lie.  The Office
	for National Statistics reported at that time that the number in work
	had fallen by 26,000 since the election.  

	He also claimed that the number of children living in "workless"
	households had doubled under the Labour government.  Lie.  The Office
	for National Statistics showed that the numbers of children in
	households where no one worked fell by 372,000 between April-June 1997
	and April-June 2010...'  

But your standard response is to dodge. 

And that's what you're about to do now. 

Y.
-- 
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
	'I approve of anybody who commits such acts of violence. Really, I
	don't think that we can sit back and watch Arabs throwing rocks at
	buses whenever they feel like it. They must understand that a bomb
	thrown at a Jewish bus is going to mean a bomb thrown at an Arab
	bus...'
	(Meir Kahane (1932 - 1990))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>	
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#739365

Fromabelard <abelard3@abelard.org>
Date2016-05-23 00:35 +0200
Message-ID<ilc4kblgquuv8olap154eauohovrmm20pq@4ax.com>
In reply to#739351
On Sun, 22 May 2016 22:51:02 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
<yitzhak@yahoo.fr> wrote:

>abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 13:35:12 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
>> <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>>Harold Davis <this@is.not.a.real.email.address.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitzhak@yahoo.fr> wrote in
>>>> news:6m031d-456.ln1@server.com.il: 
>>>>> abelard <abelard3@abelard.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> i'm glad to see the cameron government is committed to introducing a uk
>>>>>> bill of rights
>>>
>>>>> The 'Cameron government' is 'committed' to no such thing.
>>> 
>>>> Yes it is - in its recent statement of its legislative programme, read
>>>> out by the monarch.
>>>> 
>>>> Whether it would be worth the paper it's written on is another matter.
>>>
>>>Which was my point.  Cameron is a proven liar.  Why should this 'promise'
>>>be any different from the others he has made and broken? 
>> 
>> i look forward to your list...
>
>I have already provided it - the first time I did so, being 01 October 2014
>in the thread, 'Cameron's Lies start 'now'... 
>
>	'September 2010, he claimed that the Royal Colleges of General
>	Practitioners, Physicians and Nursing supported his health "reforms".
>	Lie.  They all opposed it.

1)liar
2)no such person...

>	June 2011, he said, "We will not endanger universal coverage - we will
>	make sure it remains a National Health Service".  Lie.  The NHS is
>	currently being broken up into "GP Commissioning Groups".

weak
>	Before the last general election, he promised 3000 more midwives.  Lie.
>	The numbers have been reduced by 3%.  

1)cite
2)by what date?

>	January 2012, Prime Minister's Question Time, he claimed that there are
>	more people in work than at the previous election.  Lie.  The Office
>	for National Statistics reported at that time that the number in work
>	had fallen by 26,000 since the election.  

don't talk rot...please

>	He also claimed that the number of children living in "workless"
>	households had doubled under the Labour government.  Lie.  The Office
>	for National Statistics showed that the numbers of children in
>	households where no one worked fell by 372,000 between April-June 1997
>	and April-June 2010...'  

i don't believe you.....but that's ok...

>But your standard response is to dodge. 
>
>And that's what you're about to do now. 

already done...
good to see you are referring to the time when he had no majority
   ...i suppose you didn't expect anyone to notice your lies
   your vacuous arrogance is a joy to watch...

now redo your home work



-- 
www.abelard.org

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#739250

Fromlawrence13@sky.com
Date2016-05-22 03:56 -0700
Message-ID<644f1a98-59ea-47f9-be41-4a92b784d99e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#738655
On Thursday, 19 May 2016 11:15:01 UTC+1, Harold Davis  wrote:
> Have the newspapers been told not to say that the "married couple" are both  
> male?
> 
> Every report I've read refers to "PJS" (David Furnish) having "young 
> children" with his "spouse" "YMA" (Elton John), without saying that his 
> "spouse" is another man.

I don't know if its me but this whole thing about a married couple with children sounds like a stunt to get the world to accept their status as parents in a lovely loving family setting. I mean how many times do we read or hear of so called infidelities, we hear it all the bloody time, in fact in that show case for has-been celebs 'Big Brother'. the whole show is based on them getting their filthy underwear out into the public domain.

They are not a normal couple or are they a normal family  no matter what people say.

However I note the two kids in this happy family are boys
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/gay-group-apologises-for-sir-eltons-camp-act-with-cub-scout-strippers-1124299.html


As for gay men sleeping around who'd have thunk it.

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