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So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 10:25 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 06:34 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 13:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 06:46 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 10:37 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:55 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:44 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:55 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:07 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:16 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:17 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 22:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:34 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:54 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:21 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:53 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 15:33 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 17:17 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:00 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:17 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 18:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 18:59 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 19:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 19:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:49 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 20:56 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:20 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:23 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:58 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 00:18 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:34 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:21 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:37 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:44 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-02-17 00:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:48 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:25 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:43 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-16 14:57 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 20:51 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 21:13 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 21:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:25 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-16 23:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-16 16:19 -0600
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-16 23:49 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-02-17 15:58 -0600
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 22:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:08 -0800
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-02-19 23:10 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-19 23:29 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:50 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:42 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-23 00:03 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 02:22 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 08:52 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 14:16 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-08 22:33 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 23:19 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:39 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 23:30 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:11 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:18 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 17:25 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 00:58 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 18:51 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 01:55 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:01 -0700
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 02:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:38 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David@home.today> - 2025-02-22 22:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 23:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:43 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-17 15:07 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 01:26 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 01:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-17 04:41 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 05:21 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-02-22 05:27 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 05:54 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:45 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 10:28 +0100
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-03-04 10:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 04:52 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 12:46 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 08:04 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 13:57 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:01 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:47 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-26 09:49 -0500
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:24 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 15:05 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:08 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:42 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 16:56 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 17:11 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 17:30 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 19:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 19:57 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 08:35 +0100
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 08:36 +0000
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-02-26 11:41 +0100
Re: So ...... is this real, or imagined? David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-02-26 14:02 +0000
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| From | FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 09:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpn9hr$2jr53$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #180495 |
on 2/26/2025, David supposed : > On 26/02/2025 13:04, FromTheRafters wrote: >> David pretended : >>> On 26/02/2025 09:52, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>> David explained : >>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 >>>>>> Feb >>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>> >>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over >>>>>> reacted. >>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't >>>>>> necessary. >>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>> >>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>> >>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>> >>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>>> older languages. >>>>> >>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious >>>>> software. >>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser >>>>> information. >>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>>> >>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>> >>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>>> strange files. >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>> >>>> The OS makes no difference here, you have a landmine which hasn't even >>>> been stepped on yet. Delete such a trojan and you're done. >>> >>> My point is that without an anti-malware software programme to catch it, >>> you'd never know that it was there - hiding! >> >> It is best not to execute or even open email like this. > > Understood. But people *DO* open such email - and have no idea that > Apple is NOT protecting them! How do you know that Apple is not protecting them from its execution? > Do, please, take a look at a post I've made on ucsm. What is ucsm?
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| From | FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 09:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vpn9m6$2jrpp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #180501 |
FromTheRafters formulated the question : > on 2/26/2025, David supposed : >> On 26/02/2025 13:04, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> David pretended : >>>> On 26/02/2025 09:52, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>> David explained : >>>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 >>>>>>> Feb >>>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over >>>>>>> reacted. >>>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't >>>>>>> necessary. >>>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>>> >>>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>>>> older languages. >>>>>> >>>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious >>>>>> software. >>>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser >>>>>> information. >>>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>>>> >>>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>>> >>>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>>>> strange files. >>>>>> >>>>>> = >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>>> >>>>> The OS makes no difference here, you have a landmine which hasn't even >>>>> been stepped on yet. Delete such a trojan and you're done. >>>> >>>> My point is that without an anti-malware software programme to catch it, >>>> you'd never know that it was there - hiding! >>> >>> It is best not to execute or even open email like this. >> >> Understood. But people *DO* open such email - and have no idea that >> Apple is NOT protecting them! > > How do you know that Apple is not protecting them from its execution? > >> Do, please, take a look at a post I've made on ucsm. > > What is ucsm? Oh, I see, your crossposted group, nevermind.
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 15:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m28q2aF3j07U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180502 |
On 26/02/2025 14:49, FromTheRafters wrote: [....] >>> Do, please, take a look at a post I've made on ucsm. >> >> What is ucsm? > > Oh, I see, your crossposted group, nevermind. *OUR* cross-posted group!
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 15:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m28otfF3j07U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180501 |
On 26/02/2025 14:47, FromTheRafters wrote: > on 2/26/2025, David supposed : >> On 26/02/2025 13:04, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> David pretended : >>>> On 26/02/2025 09:52, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>> David explained : >>>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net >>>>>>> Sun, 16 Feb >>>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly >>>>>>> over reacted. >>>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't >>>>>>> necessary. >>>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>>> >>>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the >>>>>> Rust programming language. Rust is popular among malware >>>>>> developers because it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to >>>>>> reverse-engineer than some older languages. >>>>>> >>>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious >>>>>> software. >>>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser >>>>>> information. >>>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to >>>>>> receive further instructions from attackers. >>>>>> >>>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>>> >>>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** >>>>>> for strange files. >>>>>> >>>>>> = >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>>> >>>>> The OS makes no difference here, you have a landmine which hasn't >>>>> even been stepped on yet. Delete such a trojan and you're done. >>>> >>>> My point is that without an anti-malware software programme to catch >>>> it, you'd never know that it was there - hiding! >>> >>> It is best not to execute or even open email like this. >> >> Understood. But people *DO* open such email - and have no idea that >> Apple is NOT protecting them! > > How do you know that Apple is not protecting them from its execution? Ah! I do NOT know, of course! >> Do, please, take a look at a post I've made on ucsm. > > What is ucsm? That's unlike you, Master! ;-) -- David
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 16:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67bf3c89$13$2755$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #180480 |
On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: > On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >> >>> This is a screenshot:- >>> >>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>> >>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >> >> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. > > Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? > > This is what ChatGPT says about it:- > > **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust > programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because > it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some > older languages. > > The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: > - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. > - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. > - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. > - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive > further instructions from attackers. > > **How does it spread?** > - Fake app installers or cracked software. > - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. > - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. > > **How to check for it:** > 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. > 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. > 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for > strange files. > > = > > Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! It only is a threat if you run it... though you said you might have. NOT shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people into running it and even giving it permissions. -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 16:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180505 |
On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote > <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>> >>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>> >>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>> >>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>> >>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >> >> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >> >> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >> >> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >> older languages. >> >> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >> further instructions from attackers. >> >> **How does it spread?** >> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >> >> **How to check for it:** >> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >> strange files. >> >> = >> >> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! > > It only is a threat if you run it... Understood! > though you said you might have. NOT > shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people > into running it and even giving it permissions. Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? -- I appreciate that you cannot know the answers! David
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 16:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67bf4689$5$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #180507 |
On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM MST, "David" wrote <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net>: > On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: >> On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >> <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: >> >>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>> >>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>> >>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>> >>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>> >>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>> >>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>> >>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>> older languages. >>> >>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>> further instructions from attackers. >>> >>> **How does it spread?** >>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>> >>> **How to check for it:** >>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>> strange files. >>> >>> = >>> >>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >> >> It only is a threat if you run it... > > Understood! > >> though you said you might have. NOT >> shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people >> into running it and even giving it permissions. > > Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? I am not sure it it would have caught it... but the scan likely would have. > > Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? I do not know. -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 16:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m28vemF4dbkU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180510 |
On 26/02/2025 16:51, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM MST, "David" wrote > <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>> <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: >>> >>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>> >>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>> >>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>> >>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>> >>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>> >>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>> >>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>> older languages. >>>> >>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>> >>>> **How does it spread?** >>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>> >>>> **How to check for it:** >>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>> strange files. >>>> >>>> = >>>> >>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>> >>> It only is a threat if you run it... >> >> Understood! >> >>> though you said you might have. NOT >>> shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people >>> into running it and even giving it permissions. >> >> Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? > > I am not sure it it would have caught it... but the scan likely would have. Huh? *WHICH* scan? >> Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? > > I do not know. It's a shame that Apple will not talk about such things to us users! Apple holds ALL the cards. :-( -- David
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 17:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67bf4b31$12$1781$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #180512 |
On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:56:54 AM MST, "David" wrote <m28vemF4dbkU2@mid.individual.net>: > On 26/02/2025 16:51, Brock McNuggets wrote: >> On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM MST, "David" wrote >> <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net>: >> >>> On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>> <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>> >>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>> >>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>> >>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>> >>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>> >>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>>> older languages. >>>>> >>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>>> >>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>> >>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>>> strange files. >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>> >>>> It only is a threat if you run it... >>> >>> Understood! >>> >>>> though you said you might have. NOT >>>> shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people >>>> into running it and even giving it permissions. >>> >>> Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? >> >> I am not sure it it would have caught it... but the scan likely would have. > > Huh? *WHICH* scan? The one you ran. > >>> Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? >> >> I do not know. > > It's a shame that Apple will not talk about such things to us users! > > Apple holds ALL the cards. :-( They might have a list of what malware they catch, but I have never looked. Have you? -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 17:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m291e2F4cihU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180513 |
On 26/02/2025 17:11, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:56:54 AM MST, "David" wrote > <m28vemF4dbkU2@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 26/02/2025 16:51, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM MST, "David" wrote >>> <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net>: >>> >>>> On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>> <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>> >>>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>>> >>>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>>>> older languages. >>>>>> >>>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >>>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >>>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>>>> >>>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>>> >>>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>>>> strange files. >>>>>> >>>>>> = >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>>> >>>>> It only is a threat if you run it... >>>> >>>> Understood! >>>> >>>>> though you said you might have. NOT >>>>> shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people >>>>> into running it and even giving it permissions. >>>> >>>> Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? >>> >>> I am not sure it it would have caught it... but the scan likely would have. >> >> Huh? *WHICH* scan? > > The one you ran. *Most* folk do not do such things! >>>> Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? >>> >>> I do not know. >> >> It's a shame that Apple will not talk about such things to us users! >> >> Apple holds ALL the cards. :-( > > They might have a list of what malware they catch, but I have never looked. > Have you? Yes, I have looked. Apple does NOT disclose the malware it captures. ChatGPT says .... //Apple generally does not disclose specific details about the malware it detects or captures on its devices. The company focuses on protecting users through built-in security features like XProtect, Gatekeeper, and malware removal tools, but it doesn’t typically provide a public list of specific threats it has blocked or detected. However, Apple does provide periodic updates about the types of security threats and vulnerabilities it addresses in its security updates, which can give users an overview of the kinds of risks its security systems are designed to protect against. For example, Apple releases security advisories with each macOS update that detail vulnerabilities and exploits it has patched. But as for specifics about the malware itself, the company usually keeps that information more general to avoid giving attackers detailed information about its security measures. If you're interested in more specific details on threats detected, you might have to rely on security research reports from third parties or security researchers who analyze malware trends on Apple devices.//
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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 19:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <67bf6d4f$0$2784$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
| In reply to | #180514 |
On Feb 26, 2025 at 10:30:42 AM MST, "David" wrote <m291e2F4cihU4@mid.individual.net>: > On 26/02/2025 17:11, Brock McNuggets wrote: >> On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:56:54 AM MST, "David" wrote >> <m28vemF4dbkU2@mid.individual.net>: >> >>> On 26/02/2025 16:51, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>> <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>> >>>>> On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>>> <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>>>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>>>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>>>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>>>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>>>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>>>>> older languages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >>>>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >>>>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>>>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>>>>> strange files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>>>> >>>>>> It only is a threat if you run it... >>>>> >>>>> Understood! >>>>> >>>>>> though you said you might have. NOT >>>>>> shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people >>>>>> into running it and even giving it permissions. >>>>> >>>>> Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? >>>> >>>> I am not sure it it would have caught it... but the scan likely would have. >>> >>> Huh? *WHICH* scan? >> >> The one you ran. > > *Most* folk do not do such things! Correct. > >>>>> Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? >>>> >>>> I do not know. >>> >>> It's a shame that Apple will not talk about such things to us users! >>> >>> Apple holds ALL the cards. :-( >> >> They might have a list of what malware they catch, but I have never looked. >> Have you? > > Yes, I have looked. Apple does NOT disclose the malware it captures. Likely to not help the malware writing cretins out there. > > ChatGPT says .... > > //Apple generally does not disclose specific details about the malware > it detects or captures on its devices. The company focuses on protecting > users through built-in security features like XProtect, Gatekeeper, and > malware removal tools, but it doesn’t typically provide a public list of > specific threats it has blocked or detected. However, Apple does provide > periodic updates about the types of security threats and vulnerabilities > it addresses in its security updates, which can give users an overview > of the kinds of risks its security systems are designed to protect against. > > For example, Apple releases security advisories with each macOS update > that detail vulnerabilities and exploits it has patched. But as for > specifics about the malware itself, the company usually keeps that > information more general to avoid giving attackers detailed information > about its security measures. > > If you're interested in more specific details on threats detected, you > might have to rely on security research reports from third parties or > security researchers who analyze malware trends on Apple devices.// -- Specialist in unnecessary details and overcomplicated solutions.
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 19:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m29a1aF62dqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180516 |
On 26/02/2025 19:36, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On Feb 26, 2025 at 10:30:42 AM MST, "David" wrote > <m291e2F4cihU4@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 26/02/2025 17:11, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:56:54 AM MST, "David" wrote >>> <m28vemF4dbkU2@mid.individual.net>: >>> >>>> On 26/02/2025 16:51, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 9:42:37 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>> <m28ujtF4dbkU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>> >>>>>> On 26/02/2025 16:08, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 1:45:12 AM MST, "David" wrote >>>>>>> <m282koF31tU1@mid.individual.net>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17/02/2025 01:26, Gremlin wrote: >>>>>>>>> David <BD@invalid.email> news:m1dso8F1e0qU1@mid.individual.net Sun, 16 Feb >>>>>>>>> 2025 10:25:12 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is a screenshot:- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Based on the content of your screenshot, you more than slightly over reacted. >>>>>>>>> It posed no real threat to you, and wiping your machine wasn't necessary. >>>>>>>>> Trojans are not viruses or worms. They do not self replicate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will you explain, please, *WHY* that Trojan posed no threat? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is what ChatGPT says about it:- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **Trojan.OSX.RustAgent** is a type of macOS malware written in the Rust >>>>>>>> programming language. Rust is popular among malware developers because >>>>>>>> it’s cross-platform, fast, and harder to reverse-engineer than some >>>>>>>> older languages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The **RustAgent** Trojan usually works by: >>>>>>>> - **Gaining unauthorized access** to a macOS system. >>>>>>>> - **Downloading and executing payloads** — additional malicious software. >>>>>>>> - **Collecting sensitive data** such as passwords or browser information. >>>>>>>> - **Communicating with a command-and-control (C2) server** to receive >>>>>>>> further instructions from attackers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **How does it spread?** >>>>>>>> - Fake app installers or cracked software. >>>>>>>> - Phishing emails with malicious attachments. >>>>>>>> - Drive-by downloads from compromised websites. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **How to check for it:** >>>>>>>> 1. Run a reputable antivirus/malware scanner for macOS. >>>>>>>> 2. Monitor your **Activity Monitor** for suspicious processes. >>>>>>>> 3. Check **~/Library/LaunchAgents** and **/Library/LaunchDaemons** for >>>>>>>> strange files. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps you are not as clued-up on Macs as you think you are, Dustin! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It only is a threat if you run it... >>>>>> >>>>>> Understood! >>>>>> >>>>>>> though you said you might have. NOT >>>>>>> shaming you for that -- this is how such malware is designed: to trick people >>>>>>> into running it and even giving it permissions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would *Apple* have noticed if I /had/ run it? >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure it it would have caught it... but the scan likely would have. >>>> >>>> Huh? *WHICH* scan? >>> >>> The one you ran. >> >> *Most* folk do not do such things! > > Correct. Again we are in agreement! >>>>>> Would it have been removed by Apple in an 'Update'? >>>>> >>>>> I do not know. >>>> >>>> It's a shame that Apple will not talk about such things to us users! >>>> >>>> Apple holds ALL the cards. :-( >>> >>> They might have a list of what malware they catch, but I have never looked. >>> Have you? >> >> Yes, I have looked. Apple does NOT disclose the malware it captures. > > Likely to not help the malware writing cretins out there. Indeed. And very wise too, I'd say! >> ChatGPT says .... >> >> //Apple generally does not disclose specific details about the malware >> it detects or captures on its devices. The company focuses on protecting >> users through built-in security features like XProtect, Gatekeeper, and >> malware removal tools, but it doesn’t typically provide a public list of >> specific threats it has blocked or detected. However, Apple does provide >> periodic updates about the types of security threats and vulnerabilities >> it addresses in its security updates, which can give users an overview >> of the kinds of risks its security systems are designed to protect against. >> >> For example, Apple releases security advisories with each macOS update >> that detail vulnerabilities and exploits it has patched. But as for >> specifics about the malware itself, the company usually keeps that >> information more general to avoid giving attackers detailed information >> about its security measures. >> >> If you're interested in more specific details on threats detected, you >> might have to rely on security research reports from third parties or >> security researchers who analyze malware trends on Apple devices.// > >
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 08:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vpmg8j$o8hp$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #180205 |
On 16.02.25 11:25, David wrote: > This is a screenshot:- > > https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png Master Brooks, why are constantly visiting porn sites? That is the result. *LOL* > I've erased my hard drive, just in case! More porn! X-posting deleted. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 08:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m28256F31sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180478 |
On 26/02/2025 07:35, Jörg Lorenz wrote: > On 16.02.25 11:25, David wrote: >> This is a screenshot:- >> >> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png > > Master Brooks, why are constantly visiting porn sites? That is the > result. *LOL* I only do that on my old Mac - which is running Linux Mint! >> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! > > More porn! > > X-posting deleted. Why?
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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 11:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vpmr46$ofhf$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #180479 |
On 26.02.25 09:36, David wrote: > On 26/02/2025 07:35, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >> On 16.02.25 11:25, David wrote: >>> This is a screenshot:- >>> >>> https://i.ibb.co/HLgy7hNf/Screenshot-2025-02-11-at-10-07-47.png >> >> Master Brooks, why are constantly visiting porn sites? That is the >> result. *LOL* > > I only do that on my old Mac - which is running Linux Mint! > >>> I've erased my hard drive, just in case! >> >> More porn! >> >> X-posting deleted. > > Why? Unannounced X-posting is impolite. -- "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m28l6sF2vqjU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180486 |
On 26/02/2025 10:41, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Unannounced X-posting is impolite.
I will accept that!
A technical question for you.
Apple has total control over my Apple devices if fired by Apple software.
Does Apple still have access to my old 24 inch iMac which is running
Linux Mint?
It seems that it might!!! This is what Chat GPT helped me to find:-
david@david-iMac:~$ sudo efibootmgr
[sudo] password for david:
BootCurrent: 0000
Timeout: 5 seconds
BootOrder: 0000,0001,0080
Boot0000* Ubuntu
HD(1,GPT,eecbee81-1d74-414b-9764-2f0e5f291cfc,0x800,0x80000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
Boot0001* MX Linux
HD(1,GPT,eecbee81-1d74-414b-9764-2f0e5f291cfc,0x800,0x80000)/File(\EFI\MX\grubx64.efi)
Boot0080* Mac OS X
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x2)/Sata(0,0,0)/HD(2,GPT,91ee5c37-7d10-4bc0-ae45-429938a266c1,0x64028,0x3a2e1fe0)
Boot0081* Mac OS X
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x2)/Sata(0,0,0)/HD(2,GPT,1a03b12d-4501-4d31-9577-92ea1e134d85,0x64028,0x3a1ec0c0)
BootFFFF*
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1d,0x0)/USB(0,0)/HD(2,0,00000000000000000000000000000000,0x21c4,0x2800)/File(\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.efi)
=
david@david-iMac:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i apple
ii cinnamon-control-center-data 6.4.1+xia
all configuration applets for Cinnamon - data files
ii gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0:amd64 1.27.1-2build3
amd64 GObject introspection data for MATE panel
ii gkbd-capplet 3.28.1-1build3 amd64
GNOME control center tools for libgnomekbd
ii libayatana-indicator3-7:amd64 0.9.4-1build1
amd64 panel indicator applet - shared library (GTK-3+ variant)
ii libetonyek-0.1-1:amd64 0.1.10-5build1
amd64 library for reading and converting Apple Keynote presentations
ii libimobiledevice-utils 1.3.0-8.1build3
amd64 Utitilies for communicating with iPhone and other Apple devices
ii libimobiledevice6:amd64 1.3.0-8.1build3
amd64 Library for communicating with iPhone and other Apple devices
ii libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64 1.27.1-2build3
amd64 library for MATE Panel applets
ii libplist-2.0-4:amd64 2.3.0-1~exp2build2
amd64 Library for handling Apple binary and XML property lists
ii nvidia-prime-applet 1.4.4 all
An applet for NVIDIA Prime
=
david@david-iMac:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: CT500MX500SSD1
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 75DF666E-BCDD-44B3-9D7D-D8B4362B7C30
Device Start End Sectors Size Type
/dev/sda1 2048 526335 524288 256M EFI System
/dev/sda2 526336 488648703 488122368 232.8G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda3 488648704 976771071 488122368 232.8G Linux filesystem
david@david-iMac:~$
=
Looks like I've got a bit of work to do to clean up the old iMac! ;-)
--
David
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 22:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Ping: Apd |
| Message-ID | <m29jpqF7aesU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180486 |
*Why didn't you respond to this post of mine*?
=
Apple has total control over my Apple devices if fired by Apple software.
Does Apple still have access to my old 24 inch iMac which is running
Linux Mint?
It seems that it might!!! This is what Chat GPT helped me to find:-
david@david-iMac:~$ sudo efibootmgr
[sudo] password for david:
BootCurrent: 0000
Timeout: 5 seconds
BootOrder: 0000,0001,0080
Boot0000* Ubuntu
HD(1,GPT,eecbee81-1d74-414b-9764-2f0e5f291cfc,0x800,0x80000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi)
Boot0001* MX Linux
HD(1,GPT,eecbee81-1d74-414b-9764-2f0e5f291cfc,0x800,0x80000)/File(\EFI\MX\grubx64.efi)
Boot0080* Mac OS X
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x2)/Sata(0,0,0)/HD(2,GPT,91ee5c37-7d10-4bc0-ae45-429938a266c1,0x64028,0x3a2e1fe0)
Boot0081* Mac OS X
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x2)/Sata(0,0,0)/HD(2,GPT,1a03b12d-4501-4d31-9577-92ea1e134d85,0x64028,0x3a1ec0c0)
BootFFFF*
PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1d,0x0)/USB(0,0)/HD(2,0,00000000000000000000000000000000,0x21c4,0x2800)/File(\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.efi)
=
david@david-iMac:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i apple
ii cinnamon-control-center-data 6.4.1+xia all configuration applets
for Cinnamon - data files
ii gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0:amd64 1.27.1-2build3 amd64
GObject introspection data for MATE panel
ii gkbd-capplet 3.28.1-1build3 amd64 GNOME
control center tools for libgnomekbd
ii libayatana-indicator3-7:amd64 0.9.4-1build1 amd64 panel
indicator applet - shared library (GTK-3+ variant)
ii libetonyek-0.1-1:amd64 0.1.10-5build1 amd64 library for
reading and converting Apple Keynote presentations
ii libimobiledevice-utils 1.3.0-8.1build3 amd64 Utitilies for
communicating with iPhone and other Apple devices
ii libimobiledevice6:amd64 1.3.0-8.1build3 amd64 Library for
communicating with iPhone and other Apple devices
ii libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64 1.27.1-2build3 amd64
library for MATE Panel applets
ii libplist-2.0-4:amd64 2.3.0-1~exp2build2 amd64 Library for
handling Apple binary and XML property lists
ii nvidia-prime-applet 1.4.4 all
An applet for NVIDIA Prime
=
david@david-iMac:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: CT500MX500SSD1
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 75DF666E-BCDD-44B3-9D7D-D8B4362B7C30
Device Start End Sectors Size Type
/dev/sda1 2048 526335 524288 256M EFI System
/dev/sda2 526336 488648703 488122368 232.8G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda3 488648704 976771071 488122368 232.8G Linux filesystem
david@david-iMac:~$
=
Looks like I've got a bit of work to do to clean up the old iMac! ;-)
--
David
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| From | David <David.is@home.today> |
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| Date | 2025-02-26 22:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Ping: Apd |
| Message-ID | <m29jurF7aesU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180518 |
On 26/02/2025 22:44, David wrote: > *Why didn't you respond to this post of mine*? > > = > > Apple has total control over my Apple devices if fired by Apple software. > > Does Apple still have access to my old 24 inch iMac which is running > Linux Mint? > > It seems that it might!!! This is what Chat GPT helped me to find:- > > > david@david-iMac:~$ sudo efibootmgr > [sudo] password for david: > BootCurrent: 0000 > Timeout: 5 seconds > BootOrder: 0000,0001,0080 > Boot0000* Ubuntu > HD(1,GPT,eecbee81-1d74-414b-9764-2f0e5f291cfc,0x800,0x80000)/ > File(\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi) > Boot0001* MX Linux > HD(1,GPT,eecbee81-1d74-414b-9764-2f0e5f291cfc,0x800,0x80000)/ > File(\EFI\MX\grubx64.efi) > Boot0080* Mac OS X PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x2)/Sata(0,0,0)/ > HD(2,GPT,91ee5c37-7d10-4bc0-ae45-429938a266c1,0x64028,0x3a2e1fe0) > Boot0081* Mac OS X PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1f,0x2)/Sata(0,0,0)/ > HD(2,GPT,1a03b12d-4501-4d31-9577-92ea1e134d85,0x64028,0x3a1ec0c0) > BootFFFF* PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1d,0x0)/USB(0,0)/ > HD(2,0,00000000000000000000000000000000,0x21c4,0x2800)/ > File(\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.efi) > > = > > david@david-iMac:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i apple > ii cinnamon-control-center-data 6.4.1+xia all configuration applets > for Cinnamon - data files > ii gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0:amd64 1.27.1-2build3 amd64 GObject > introspection data for MATE panel > ii gkbd-capplet 3.28.1-1build3 amd64 GNOME > control center tools for libgnomekbd > ii libayatana-indicator3-7:amd64 0.9.4-1build1 amd64 panel > indicator applet - shared library (GTK-3+ variant) > ii libetonyek-0.1-1:amd64 0.1.10-5build1 amd64 library for > reading and converting Apple Keynote presentations > ii libimobiledevice-utils 1.3.0-8.1build3 amd64 Utitilies for > communicating with iPhone and other Apple devices > ii libimobiledevice6:amd64 1.3.0-8.1build3 amd64 Library for > communicating with iPhone and other Apple devices > ii libmate-panel-applet-4-1:amd64 1.27.1-2build3 amd64 library for > MATE Panel applets > ii libplist-2.0-4:amd64 2.3.0-1~exp2build2 amd64 Library for > handling Apple binary and XML property lists > ii nvidia-prime-applet 1.4.4 all > An applet for NVIDIA Prime > > = > > david@david-iMac:~$ sudo fdisk -l > Disk /dev/sda: 465.76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors > Disk model: CT500MX500SSD1 > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes > Disklabel type: gpt > Disk identifier: 75DF666E-BCDD-44B3-9D7D-D8B4362B7C30 > > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sda1 2048 526335 524288 256M EFI System > /dev/sda2 526336 488648703 488122368 232.8G Linux filesystem > /dev/sda3 488648704 976771071 488122368 232.8G Linux filesystem > david@david-iMac:~$ > > = > > Looks like I've got a bit of work to do to clean up the old iMac! ;-) Oops! Posted to wrong group first time around! Thoughts/advice welcomed. -- Kind regards, David
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