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Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow

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  Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-05 12:38 +0100
    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-06 00:06 +0000
    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-06 05:58 +0000
      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 11:19 +0100
        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-08 12:55 +0000
          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 15:39 +0100
        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-08 17:21 +0000
          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 19:13 +0100
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 12:29 -0700
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 21:40 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 13:51 -0700
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 21:58 +0100
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-08 21:30 +0000
                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 23:01 +0100
                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-09 14:05 +0000
                          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 18:54 +0100
                            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-09 21:09 +0000
                              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 22:47 +0100
                                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 20:06 +0100
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 15:18 -0700
                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 09:50 +0100
                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 09:15 -0700
                          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 18:58 +0100
                            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 13:15 -0700
                              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 22:49 +0100
                                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 15:38 -0700
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-10 09:46 +0100
                                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-10 12:41 -0700
                                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 20:09 +0100
                                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 12:32 -0700
                                          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 21:58 +0100
                                            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 22:12 +0100
                                            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:54 -0700
                                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-11 19:08 +0000
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-08-10 09:07 -0400
                                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-10 12:41 -0700
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-08 22:07 +0000
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 15:37 -0700
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 22:57 +0000
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 13:56 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 04:48 +0000
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 09:44 +0100
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-11 19:08 +0000
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 10:01 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2025-08-09 09:48 +0000
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 12:13 +0100
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Charlie Glock <charlieglock@localhost.com> - 2025-08-09 22:05 +0000
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 23:20 +0100
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 15:32 -0700
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 20:07 +0100
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-13 21:16 +0000
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 22:45 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:55 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-13 20:09 -0500
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-14 08:58 +0100
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-14 17:23 -0500
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-14 14:58 +0000
                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-24 08:31 +0100
                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-24 17:55 -0500
                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-25 08:28 +0100
                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 07:02 -0700
                          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-25 17:46 +0100
                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-25 10:19 -0500
                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-25 17:44 +0200
                          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-25 17:43 +0100
                            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-25 22:24 +0000
                              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 22:59 +0000
                                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-26 10:50 +0100
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 13:29 +0000
                                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 15:19 +0100
                                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 15:30 +0000
                                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:46 -0700
                                          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 15:47 +0000
                                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-26 18:02 +0100
                                        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 21:07 +0100
                              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-26 07:31 +0100
                                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 13:24 +0000
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 15:16 +0100
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 16:22 +0100
                                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2025-08-26 21:21 +0000
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 22:24 +0100
                                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-31 21:03 +0000
                                      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 22:14 +0000
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 14:34 -0700
                                  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-31 21:03 +0000
                                    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 22:15 +0000
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-08-14 15:27 +0100

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#181684

FromTyrone <none@none.none>
Date2025-08-14 14:58 +0000
Message-ID<ybKcnY0_JuUaZAD1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#181677
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
>>>> 08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
>>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
>>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's
>>>>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once
>>>>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck
>>>>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
>>>> 
>>>> This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times
>>>> why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
>>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced
>>>> around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author
>>>> won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer
>>>> for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make
>>>> against the software.
>>>> 
>>>> Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
>>> 
>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>> 
>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>> 
>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on what?  Just
>> because YOU personally don't like him?
> 
> 
> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
> copies of our email correspondence!

So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?

> He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son. Maybe
> that's why he's been unable to to best me!  ;-)

Utterly irrelevant. 

> I've never claimed not to like the fellow!

So why are you trying to destroy him?

> Other folk were slating the product on the Apple App Store, not me!
> 
> https://i.ibb.co/6RyCVF5h/4-DB889-D8-A144-4-A99-97-B5-C02-B46-CF96-A9-1-105-c.jpg
> 
> Do YOU think he became too greedy?

Greedy?  How much money do you think he is making from this tiny niche
product?  If this was for Windows, he might be making some money, since
Windows has boatloads of problems.  But software to help track down problems
on Macs? That is the definition of niche product. 

BTW, his reply is a perfectly reasonable response to someone who was obviously
clueless. 

And even if he IS "greedy", what does that have to do with your insane "It's
Malware!" crusade?

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#181701

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-24 08:31 +0100
Message-ID<mgvtdkFq4asU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181684
On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
> On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
>>>>> 08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
>>>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
>>>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's
>>>>>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once
>>>>>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck
>>>>>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
>>>>>
>>>>> This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times
>>>>> why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
>>>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced
>>>>> around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author
>>>>> won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer
>>>>> for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make
>>>>> against the software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
>>>>
>>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>>>
>>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>>>
>>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on what?  Just
>>> because YOU personally don't like him?
>>
>>
>> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
>> copies of our email correspondence!
> 
> So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?

He has lied!
>> He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son. Maybe
>> that's why he's been unable to to best me!  ;-)
> 
> Utterly irrelevant.
> 
>> I've never claimed not to like the fellow!
> 
> So why are you trying to destroy him?
> 
>> Other folk were slating the product on the Apple App Store, not me!
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/6RyCVF5h/4-DB889-D8-A144-4-A99-97-B5-C02-B46-CF96-A9-1-105-c.jpg
>>
>> Do YOU think he became too greedy?
> 
> Greedy?  How much money do you think he is making from this tiny niche
> product?  If this was for Windows, he might be making some money, since
> Windows has boatloads of problems.  But software to help track down problems
> on Macs? That is the definition of niche product.

Quite! So how *DOES* the author make a living?
> BTW, his reply is a perfectly reasonable response to someone who was obviously
> clueless.

Perhaps I pretend just a bit TOO well? ;-)
> And even if he IS "greedy", what does that have to do with your insane "It's
> Malware!" crusade?

I'd like to ascertain that you HAVE read this this question and thread - 
started by someone other than me. Have you?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254105983?sortBy=rank

Nobody, of course, has admitted to writing THIS web page:-

https://sites.google.com/site/howtotellifyourmacishacked/is-etrecheck-malware

It certainly was not me!

-- 
David

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#181723

FromKelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org>
Date2025-08-24 17:55 -0500
Message-ID<fr5nakpiaotma2ep1icdm928f0mtinb2ut@4ax.com>
In reply to#181701
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>>>>
>>>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on what?  Just
>>>> because YOU personally don't like him?
>>>
>>>
>>> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
>>> copies of our email correspondence!
>> 
>> So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
>
>He has lied!

David, you lie quite frequently. Should you be investigated?

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#181725

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-25 08:28 +0100
Message-ID<mh2hkfF9hkkU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181723
On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>>>>>
>>>>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on what?  Just
>>>>> because YOU personally don't like him?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
>>>> copies of our email correspondence!
>>>
>>> So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
>>
>> He has lied!
> 
> David, you lie quite frequently. 

No, I don't.

> Should you be investigated?

I am an open book! 🙂

Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.

Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?

Anyone?

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#181734

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-08-25 07:02 -0700
Message-ID<108hqdt$3etrn$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#181725
On 2025-08-25 00:28, David B. wrote:
> On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on 
>>>>>> what?  Just
>>>>>> because YOU personally don't like him?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still 
>>>>> have
>>>>> copies of our email correspondence!
>>>>
>>>> So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
>>>
>>> He has lied!
>>
>> David, you lie quite frequently. 
> 
> No, I don't.

Yeah... ...you do.

> 
>> Should you be investigated?
> 
> I am an open book! 🙂
> 
> Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
> download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
> what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
> 
> Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
> 
> Anyone?

If you were on fire, I wouldn't piss on you.

> 

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#181739

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-25 17:46 +0100
Message-ID<mh3ic2Fd4ftU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181734
On 25/08/2025 15:02, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-08-25 00:28, David B. wrote:
>> On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on 
>>>>>>> what?  Just
>>>>>>> because YOU personally don't like him?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> copies of our email correspondence!
>>>>>
>>>>> So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
>>>>
>>>> He has lied!
>>>
>>> David, you lie quite frequently. 
>>
>> No, I don't.
> 
> Yeah... ...you do.

*CITE*

>>> Should you be investigated?
>>
>> I am an open book! 🙂
>>
>> Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
>> download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
>> what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
>>
>> Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
>>
>> Anyone?
> 
> If you were on fire, I wouldn't piss on you.

Folk like you cannot AFFORD an Apple iMac!

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#181735

FromKelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org>
Date2025-08-25 10:19 -0500
Message-ID<v2voakhpo3cgj6ojjsvh76hsg28ntnm8hi@4ax.com>
In reply to#181725
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 08:28:15 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?  Based on what?  Just
>>>>>> because YOU personally don't like him?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
>>>>> copies of our email correspondence!
>>>>
>>>> So?   That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
>>>
>>> He has lied!
>> 
>> David, you lie quite frequently. 
>
>No, I don't.

That was another one.

>> Should you be investigated?
>
>I am an open book! ?
>
>Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
>download it onto their computers.

Yes, you do! You've done it again in this thread. Not the "produce"
part, because you're too ignorant, but the "invite" part is a regular
occurrence. Were you unaware of your activities?

>Such folk have absolutely no idea
>what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.

People like you have no idea what *any* software does after
installation. Perhaps it's long past time for you to turn off the
computer and go for a very long walk.

>Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
>
>Anyone?

Wait, did you just do the invitation thing? You know, the thing that you
don't remember doing?

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#181736

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-08-25 17:44 +0200
Message-ID<108i0dp$jt3r$1@solani.org>
In reply to#181725
On 25.08.2025 09:28, David B. wrote:
> On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
>> David, you lie quite frequently.
> 
> No, I don't.
> 
>> Should you be investigated?
> 
> I am an open book! 🙂
> 
> Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
> download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
> what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
> 
> Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?

Why the hell should we? You are obsessed!

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#181738

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-25 17:43 +0100
Message-ID<mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181736
On 25/08/2025 16:44, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 25.08.2025 09:28, David B. wrote:
[....]
>> Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
>> download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
>> what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
>>
>> Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
> 
> Why the hell should we? You are obsessed!


From: "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 12:38:45 +0100
Message-ID: <mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net>

*Optimising performance* with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow
hoakley April 14, 2021 Macs, Technology May 30, 2025

https://eclecticlight.co/2021/04/14/optimising-performance-with-etrecheckpro-and-ulbow/

//You're probably familiar with EtreCheck, the free app which is commonly
used in Apple Community Support forums to help diagnose problems, but
have you paid for its Pro features? If you want to get the best
performance from your Mac, that's money well-spent.

Among the additional features which are enabled when you make the in-app
purchase is a superb graphical view of recently collected analytics
data. Select the Performance item at the left (only enabled in the Pro
version), scroll down until you reach the Analytics section, and click
on the button to show the analytics chart.//

=

Howard Oakley was speaking above about an "in-App" purchase; that was at
a time when EtreCheck had been vetted by Apple and was available from
the Apple App Store. That, of course, is no longer the case.

Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
interaction with the developer?

=

There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254105983?sortBy=rank

=

Your thoughts requested, folks!

-- 
Does it leave a 'back door' open on your Mac?
Indeed, who would know?
*Who has checked*?!!!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/etrecheckpro-process-redacted.2291964/?post=29887128#post-29887128

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#181741

FromGremlin <nobody@haph.org>
Date2025-08-25 22:24 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>
In reply to#181738
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 

> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
> interaction with the developer?

I'm not a mac person by trade, David. So, other than reverse engineering to 
put your ill conceived theories about it containing or being malware, I have 
not used the product, nor would I specifically need to do so. That program 
is designed for people to assist end users (like yourself) via self support 
forums. It's one of many tools of that kind. I've already explained this to 
you, previously, several times, as well. It's in one ear and right out the 
other one; since you clearly don't remember what you've already been told. I 
have interacted with it's author on several occasions though. I've found the 
individual to be friendly, responsive, and quite knowledgeable. It's a shame 
that as another utility author that we have you in common. You've gone after 
my program at one point in the past as well. FFS, You initiated email 
contact with me, already lying your arse off about the reason(s) you 
contacted me in the first place. It damn sure was not for technical support 
for BugHunter. That was a ruse you crafted to interact with me. 

I *should have* ignored your emails that had nothing to do with supporting 
BugHunter. Had I known as much as I do now about you, I would have ended our 
comms the moment you first began to stray from requesting BugHunter 
assistance. You're a stalking, nutjob, pile of shit.

> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!

I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found 
absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the 
scripts. I reported this to you each time. You then proceeded to twist your 
original accusation to 'How do we know it doesn't download malware later via 
the internet?' - When I asked why you don't subject nearly every other 
program, including OS(s), to the same question you avoided answering. Yet 
here you are, yet again, inferring the program might contain or otherwise 
will contain malware. It's a shame the author hasn't opted to pursue you via 
legal channels at this point.

You are a total piece of shit, lying, troll, David Brooks.

> Your thoughts requested, folks!

Please, pour a good amount of kerosene upon yourself and ignite it. The 
damage to the environment would be well worth the effort.




-- 
I don't need no Dr. All I need...is my lawyer.
 

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#181744

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-25 22:59 +0000
Message-ID<68aceac3$0$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#181741
On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:

> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>> interaction with the developer?
> 
> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.

That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
...
> 
>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
> 
> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
> scripts.

Please support this claim.

(I bet you won't)

...

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#181749

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-26 10:50 +0100
Message-ID<mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181744
On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
> <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
> 
>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>>> interaction with the developer?
>>
>> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
> 
> That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.

I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?

>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>
>> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
>> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
>> scripts.
> 
> Please support this claim.
> 
> (I bet you won't)

I'll bet he won't, too!  ;-)

-- 
David

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#181751

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-26 13:29 +0000
Message-ID<68adb6a3$2$10366$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#181749
On Aug 26, 2025 at 2:50:54 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>> <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>> 
>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
>>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>>>> interaction with the developer?
>>> 
>>> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
>> 
>> That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
>> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
> 
> I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?

I believe there were more times, but here are TWO examples (so not just a
random typo / brain fart on terms):

Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA2266D9357HT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
    -----
    Did he really tell you that after deleting your profile for the
    photos program (when it's not running - I shouldn't have to make
    sure you understand that, but, you are David Brooks and well, you
    aren't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack.) you should restart
    your machine to be sure the effect worked? David, y2k called and
    they'd like their technology back if that's really the case. rofl.

    Ensure no processes are running that program uses, ensure the
    program itself isn't running, whack your profile. Start the
    program, don't restart your machine or logoff/login again to 'fix'
    it without first seeing if it's okay after whacking the profile.
    -----

Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA22716D09FHT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:   
    ------
    A little birdie told me he already provided you instructions to
    follow, but, it's a bit more than slightly clear he isn't really
    sure about it. You uhh, shouldn't have to logout and back in, or
    restart your OS to make the program behave itself. Make sure the
    program is completely down, that it's closed and no services it
    uses for anything are running. Whack the user profile. Either
    learn to use google, or follow the generic instructions snit
    provided you to locate them. Once you've deleted the profiles,
    open the program and see if it's acting as you expect it to now.
    -----

> 
>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>> 
>>> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
>>> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
>>> scripts.
>> 
>> Please support this claim.
>> 
>> (I bet you won't)
> 
> I'll bet he won't, too!  ;-)

In a discussion of Carroll's flood bot he did make this claim:

<XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
    -----
    Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
    provided the original source code that was
    compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
    given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
    still tells you *everything* about the program.
    -----

When he realized this meant he would need the source code to Carroll's bot he
backed off that claim REAL fast and has been crying about me quoting him ever
since. LOL!

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#181753

From"David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2025-08-26 15:19 +0100
Message-ID<mh5u3sFr8gmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181751
On 26/08/2025 14:29, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2025 at 2:50:54 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>> <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>
>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
>>>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>>>>> interaction with the developer?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
>>>
>>> That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
>>> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
>>
>> I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?
> 
> I believe there were more times, but here are TWO examples (so not just a
> random typo / brain fart on terms):

*THANK YOU*. 🙂
> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA2266D9357HT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>      -----
>      Did he really tell you that after deleting your profile for the
>      photos program (when it's not running - I shouldn't have to make
>      sure you understand that, but, you are David Brooks and well, you
>      aren't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack.) you should restart
>      your machine to be sure the effect worked? David, y2k called and
>      they'd like their technology back if that's really the case. rofl.
> 
>      Ensure no processes are running that program uses, ensure the
>      program itself isn't running, whack your profile. Start the
>      program, don't restart your machine or logoff/login again to 'fix'
>      it without first seeing if it's okay after whacking the profile.
>      -----
> 
> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA22716D09FHT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>      ------
>      A little birdie told me he already provided you instructions to
>      follow, but, it's a bit more than slightly clear he isn't really
>      sure about it. You uhh, shouldn't have to logout and back in, or
>      restart your OS to make the program behave itself. Make sure the
>      program is completely down, that it's closed and no services it
>      uses for anything are running. Whack the user profile. Either
>      learn to use google, or follow the generic instructions snit
>      provided you to locate them. Once you've deleted the profiles,
>      open the program and see if it's acting as you expect it to now.
>      -----
> 
>>
>>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>>>
>>>> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
>>>> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
>>>> scripts.
>>>
>>> Please support this claim.
>>>
>>> (I bet you won't)
>>
>> I'll bet he won't, too!  ;-)
> 
> In a discussion of Carroll's flood bot he did make this claim:
> 
> <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
>      -----
>      Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
>      provided the original source code that was
>      compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
>      given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
>      still tells you *everything* about the program.
>      -----
> 
> When he realized this meant he would need the source code to Carroll's bot he
> backed off that claim REAL fast and has been crying about me quoting him ever
> since. LOL!

Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!

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#181756

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-26 15:30 +0000
Message-ID<68add2fe$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#181753
On Aug 26, 2025 at 7:19:40 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<mh5u3sFr8gmU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 26/08/2025 14:29, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Aug 26, 2025 at 2:50:54 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>>> <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>> 
>>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
>>>>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>>>>>> interaction with the developer?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
>>>> 
>>>> That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
>>>> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
>>> 
>>> I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?
>> 
>> I believe there were more times, but here are TWO examples (so not just a
>> random typo / brain fart on terms):
> 
> *THANK YOU*. 🙂

I sometimes can't find evidence I saw in the past, but most of the time I can
show it. As I say, I "bring receipts". There is no doubt the topic was macOS
Preference files and Gremlin repeatedly got that confused with the idea of
profiles.

>> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA2266D9357HT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>>      -----
>>      Did he really tell you that after deleting your profile for the
>>      photos program (when it's not running - I shouldn't have to make
>>      sure you understand that, but, you are David Brooks and well, you
>>      aren't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack.) you should restart
>>      your machine to be sure the effect worked? David, y2k called and
>>      they'd like their technology back if that's really the case. rofl.
>> 
>>      Ensure no processes are running that program uses, ensure the
>>      program itself isn't running, whack your profile. Start the
>>      program, don't restart your machine or logoff/login again to 'fix'
>>      it without first seeing if it's okay after whacking the profile.
>>      -----
>> 
>> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA22716D09FHT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>>      ------
>>      A little birdie told me he already provided you instructions to
>>      follow, but, it's a bit more than slightly clear he isn't really
>>      sure about it. You uhh, shouldn't have to logout and back in, or
>>      restart your OS to make the program behave itself. Make sure the
>>      program is completely down, that it's closed and no services it
>>      uses for anything are running. Whack the user profile. Either
>>      learn to use google, or follow the generic instructions snit
>>      provided you to locate them. Once you've deleted the profiles,
>>      open the program and see if it's acting as you expect it to now.
>>      -----

And here he shows MORE ignorance. On macOS, Preference files are now cached
and it IS recommended that you log out and back in to be safe. Used to be you
could merely delete them. Sorta wish that was still the case.
>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
>>>>> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
>>>>> scripts.
>>>> 
>>>> Please support this claim.
>>>> 
>>>> (I bet you won't)
>>> 
>>> I'll bet he won't, too!  ;-)
>> 
>> In a discussion of Carroll's flood bot he did make this claim:
>> 
>> <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
>>      -----
>>      Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
>>      provided the original source code that was
>>      compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
>>      given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
>>      still tells you *everything* about the program.
>>      -----
>> 
>> When he realized this meant he would need the source code to Carroll's bot he
>> backed off that claim REAL fast and has been crying about me quoting him ever
>> since. LOL!
> 
> Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!

I wish he would just move on and stop attacking.


-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#181757

From% <pursent100@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-26 08:46 -0700
Message-ID<FjydncRLRtRSSzD1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#181756
Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2025 at 7:19:40 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <mh5u3sFr8gmU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 26/08/2025 14:29, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> On Aug 26, 2025 at 2:50:54 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>> <mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>>>> <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
>>>>>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>>>>>>> interaction with the developer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
>>>>> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?
>>>
>>> I believe there were more times, but here are TWO examples (so not just a
>>> random typo / brain fart on terms):
>>
>> *THANK YOU*. 🙂
> 
> I sometimes can't find evidence I saw in the past, but most of the time I can
> show it. As I say, I "bring receipts". There is no doubt the topic was macOS
> Preference files and Gremlin repeatedly got that confused with the idea of
> profiles.
> 
>>> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA2266D9357HT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>>>       -----
>>>       Did he really tell you that after deleting your profile for the
>>>       photos program (when it's not running - I shouldn't have to make
>>>       sure you understand that, but, you are David Brooks and well, you
>>>       aren't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack.) you should restart
>>>       your machine to be sure the effect worked? David, y2k called and
>>>       they'd like their technology back if that's really the case. rofl.
>>>
>>>       Ensure no processes are running that program uses, ensure the
>>>       program itself isn't running, whack your profile. Start the
>>>       program, don't restart your machine or logoff/login again to 'fix'
>>>       it without first seeing if it's okay after whacking the profile.
>>>       -----
>>>
>>> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA22716D09FHT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>>>       ------
>>>       A little birdie told me he already provided you instructions to
>>>       follow, but, it's a bit more than slightly clear he isn't really
>>>       sure about it. You uhh, shouldn't have to logout and back in, or
>>>       restart your OS to make the program behave itself. Make sure the
>>>       program is completely down, that it's closed and no services it
>>>       uses for anything are running. Whack the user profile. Either
>>>       learn to use google, or follow the generic instructions snit
>>>       provided you to locate them. Once you've deleted the profiles,
>>>       open the program and see if it's acting as you expect it to now.
>>>       -----
> 
> And here he shows MORE ignorance. On macOS, Preference files are now cached
> and it IS recommended that you log out and back in to be safe. Used to be you
> could merely delete them. Sorta wish that was still the case.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
>>>>>> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
>>>>>> scripts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please support this claim.
>>>>>
>>>>> (I bet you won't)
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet he won't, too!  ;-)
>>>
>>> In a discussion of Carroll's flood bot he did make this claim:
>>>
>>> <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
>>>       -----
>>>       Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
>>>       provided the original source code that was
>>>       compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
>>>       given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
>>>       still tells you *everything* about the program.
>>>       -----
>>>
>>> When he realized this meant he would need the source code to Carroll's bot he
>>> backed off that claim REAL fast and has been crying about me quoting him ever
>>> since. LOL!
>>
>> Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!
> 
> I wish he would just move on and stop attacking.
> 
> 
he can't he's a snitaholic

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#181758

FromBrock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-26 15:47 +0000
Message-ID<68add70a$2$21$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#181757
On Aug 26, 2025 at 8:46:28 AM MST, "%" wrote
<FjydncRLRtRSSzD1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Aug 26, 2025 at 7:19:40 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <mh5u3sFr8gmU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 26/08/2025 14:29, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Aug 26, 2025 at 2:50:54 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>> <mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
>>>>>> <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
>>>>>>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>>>>>>>> interaction with the developer?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a
>>>>>> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?
>>>> 
>>>> I believe there were more times, but here are TWO examples (so not just a
>>>> random typo / brain fart on terms):
>>> 
>>> *THANK YOU*. 🙂
>> 
>> I sometimes can't find evidence I saw in the past, but most of the time I can
>> show it. As I say, I "bring receipts". There is no doubt the topic was macOS
>> Preference files and Gremlin repeatedly got that confused with the idea of
>> profiles.
>> 
>>>> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA2266D9357HT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>>>>       -----
>>>>       Did he really tell you that after deleting your profile for the
>>>>       photos program (when it's not running - I shouldn't have to make
>>>>       sure you understand that, but, you are David Brooks and well, you
>>>>       aren't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack.) you should restart
>>>>       your machine to be sure the effect worked? David, y2k called and
>>>>       they'd like their technology back if that's really the case. rofl.
>>>> 
>>>>       Ensure no processes are running that program uses, ensure the
>>>>       program itself isn't running, whack your profile. Start the
>>>>       program, don't restart your machine or logoff/login again to 'fix'
>>>>       it without first seeing if it's okay after whacking the profile.
>>>>       -----
>>>> 
>>>> Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA22716D09FHT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
>>>>       ------
>>>>       A little birdie told me he already provided you instructions to
>>>>       follow, but, it's a bit more than slightly clear he isn't really
>>>>       sure about it. You uhh, shouldn't have to logout and back in, or
>>>>       restart your OS to make the program behave itself. Make sure the
>>>>       program is completely down, that it's closed and no services it
>>>>       uses for anything are running. Whack the user profile. Either
>>>>       learn to use google, or follow the generic instructions snit
>>>>       provided you to locate them. Once you've deleted the profiles,
>>>>       open the program and see if it's acting as you expect it to now.
>>>>       -----
>> 
>> And here he shows MORE ignorance. On macOS, Preference files are now cached
>> and it IS recommended that you log out and back in to be safe. Used to be you
>> could merely delete them. Sorta wish that was still the case.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
>>>>>>> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
>>>>>>> scripts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please support this claim.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (I bet you won't)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll bet he won't, too!  ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> In a discussion of Carroll's flood bot he did make this claim:
>>>> 
>>>> <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
>>>>       -----
>>>>       Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
>>>>       provided the original source code that was
>>>>       compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
>>>>       given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
>>>>       still tells you *everything* about the program.
>>>>       -----
>>>> 
>>>> When he realized this meant he would need the source code to Carroll's bot he
>>>> backed off that claim REAL fast and has been crying about me quoting him ever
>>>> since. LOL!
>>> 
>>> Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!
>> 
>> I wish he would just move on and stop attacking.
>> 
>> 
> he can't he's a snitaholic

Yup.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#181759

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2025-08-26 18:02 +0100
Message-ID<1rhopww.77k4p21tc1bk6N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#181753
"David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!

What a tedious, morphing, little turd you are.       [k/f updated]

-- 
^Ï^.        Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#181760

From"David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2025-08-26 21:07 +0100
Message-ID<mh6ifjF2tnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181759
On 26/08/2025 18:02, Sn!pe is wriggling on my hook!

> "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> 
>> Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!
> 
> What a tedious, morphing, little turd you are.       [k/f updated]


A tad better than being an arsehole like you. :-P

A picture is worth 1000 words!

https://chatgpt.com/s/m_68ae119fd8dc8191be7cf01c1fcb2b0c

<shakes head>

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#181746

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-26 07:31 +0100
Message-ID<mh52l8FmrjgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#181741
On 25/08/2025 23:24, Gremlin wrote:
> "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
>> interaction with the developer?
> 
> I'm not a mac person by trade, David. So, other than reverse engineering to
> put your ill conceived theories about it containing or being malware, I have
> not used the product, nor would I specifically need to do so. That program
> is designed for people to assist end users (like yourself) via self support
> forums. It's one of many tools of that kind. I've already explained this to
> you, previously, several times, as well. It's in one ear and right out the
> other one; since you clearly don't remember what you've already been told. I
> have interacted with it's author on several occasions though. I've found the
> individual to be friendly, responsive, and quite knowledgeable. It's a shame
> that as another utility author that we have you in common. You've gone after
> my program at one point in the past as well. FFS, You initiated email
> contact with me, already lying your arse off about the reason(s) you
> contacted me in the first place. It damn sure was not for technical support
> for BugHunter. That was a ruse you crafted to interact with me.
> 
> I *should have* ignored your emails that had nothing to do with supporting
> BugHunter. Had I known as much as I do now about you, I would have ended our
> comms the moment you first began to stray from requesting BugHunter
> assistance. You're a stalking, nutjob, pile of shit.

Do you deny that YOU once posted this?

//Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be  treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
Notice, i said most people  not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself
have been treated in my  short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead
cracky, nail me, wide open  freebie). But, I was raised with the
"nail me, nail you" concept. I've been  nailed since I began
breathing.. if I had my way, I'd long be dead... but,  that's a
different topic, so I won't bore you with my
life story.//

You, Dustin Cook, are the 'bad guy', not me!
>> There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
> 
> I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
> absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
> scripts. I reported this to you each time. You then proceeded to twist your
> original accusation to 'How do we know it doesn't download malware later via
> the internet?' - When I asked why you don't subject nearly every other
> program, including OS(s), to the same question you avoided answering. Yet
> here you are, yet again, inferring the program might contain or otherwise
> will contain malware. It's a shame the author hasn't opted to pursue you via
> legal channels at this point.

Gremlin,

You have stated that you have reverse-engineered EtreCheck. The
software’s Terms of Use expressly forbid reverse engineering,
decompiling, or disassembly. By your own admission, you have acted 
contrary to those terms.

In light of that, any claims or assurances you make about the internal
workings of EtreCheck are undermined by the fact that they stem from a
breach of its license agreement.

=

GRANT OF LICENSE

https://www.etrecheck.com/en/EULA.html

Etresoft hereby grants you a limited, non-sublicensable, non-exclusive, 
non-transferable right to install and run copies of the specified 
version of the software that is released under this License (the 
“Software”).

You may not:

loan, sell, or otherwise distribute all or any part of the Software;
decompile, disassemble or undertake any form of re-engineering process 
on the Software or provide your assistance to any effort of a third 
party to do so;

modify or alter in any manner the Software or take part in any such an 
effort initiated by a third party; and

loan, sell, share or otherwise distribute activation codes or license 
codes with any third party.

This License does not grant you the right to access to the source code 
of the Software. If, in certain circumstances, such access is desired by 
you, you may enter into a separate license with Etresoft.

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