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  Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 15:56 +0000
    Re: Apple Notes slow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 17:29 +0100
      Re: Apple Notes slow Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-02 11:01 +1200
        Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-03 17:05 +0000
          Re: Apple Notes slow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-04 16:37 +0100
            Re: Apple Notes slow Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-05 09:03 +1200
              Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 16:56 +0000
                Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 18:29 +0100
                  Re: Apple Notes slow Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-09 10:23 +0000
                    Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 12:47 +0000
                      Re: Apple Notes slow Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-09 13:04 +0000
                        Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 15:30 +0100
          Re: Apple Notes slow Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2025-08-04 17:18 +0000
            Re: Apple Notes slow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-04 18:37 +0100
            Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 16:56 +0000
    Re: Apple Notes slow Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2025-08-05 01:09 +0100
      Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 17:03 +0000
        Re: Apple Notes slow Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2025-08-06 00:10 +0100
          Re: Apple Notes slow RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2025-08-06 06:29 +0000
            Re: Apple Notes slow Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2025-08-17 09:49 +0000
              Re: Apple Notes slow Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-17 16:00 +0200

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#181541 — Apple Notes slow

Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng. 

I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine. 

In all other respects the ipad is great. 

Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?

On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
much with the notes as I can on the ipad. 

The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily. 

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#181542

On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
> may not be in the ipad ng.
> 
> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
> 
> In all other respects the ipad is great.
> 
> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
> this many or more notes on their ipad?
> 
> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
> 
> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.

Have you carried out this simple procedure?

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/ipad/ipad63d30b5a/14.0/ipados/14.0#iPad715e3eec

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#181544

On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
> 
> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
> may not be in the ipad ng.
> 
> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
> 
> In all other respects the ipad is great.
> 
> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
> this many or more notes on their ipad?
> 
> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
> 
> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.

Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the 
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before 
opening each time.

Try this to see if it helps:
<https://www.idownloadblog.com/2024/08/07/how-to-keep-icloud-drive-files-always-downloaded/> 


I'm not sure how that function works. It may take a while to 
re-download all the Notes files in one go OR it may not help the first 
time you access a particular Notes file since it will have to 
re-download it, but after that it should be stored on the iPad itself 
(as well as synced to the iCloud server).

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#181554

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>> 
>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>> 
>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>> 
>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>> 
>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>> 
>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
> 
> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the 
> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before 
> opening each time.

That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
still all there, but the lag is still the same. 

So not a download lag. 

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#181556

On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>
>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>
>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>
>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>
>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>
>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>
>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>> opening each time.
> 
> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
> 
> So not a download lag.

If you visit your 'Notes' by accessing them via wwww.icloud.com do your
notes open more quickly than when you use your Notes App?

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#181559

On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>> 
>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting 
>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>> 
>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>> 
>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>> 
>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't 
>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>> 
>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to 
>>> getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>> 
>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>> opening each time.
> 
> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
> 
> So not a download lag.

Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files. 
Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into 
sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes. 
For example:
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/> 

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#181563

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>> 
>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting 
>>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>> 
>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>> 
>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't 
>>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>> 
>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to 
>>>> getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>> opening each time.
>> 
>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>> 
>> So not a download lag.
> 
> Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files. 
> Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into 
> sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes. 
> For example:
> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/>
> 

That's a good find. I'll try that. 

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#181584

On 05/08/2025 17:56, Chris wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting
>>>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>>>
>>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't
>>>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to
>>>>> getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>>> opening each time.
>>>
>>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>>>
>>> So not a download lag.
>>
>> Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files.
>> Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into
>> sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes.
>> For example:
>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/>
>>
> 
> That's a good find. I'll try that.

OK. I've archived all my historical notes by year back to 2021.

No difference unfortunately.

I wonder if the fact that I use tags extensively is not helping. They 
are super useful and would really miss them if I can't use them.

Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
multiple topics?

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#181607

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
> multiple topics?

Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
out personally.

<https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181609

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
>> multiple topics?
> 
> Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
> out personally.
> 
> <https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
> 

Does it do handwriting? 

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#181611

On 2025-08-09, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
>>> multiple topics?
>> 
>> Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
>> out personally.
>> 
>> <https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
>> 
>
> Does it do handwriting? 

Short answer: dunno.

But we found this on the user forum:

<https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/141176-ipad-and-writing-notes-by-hand/>

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181660

On 09/08/2025 14:04, Alan B wrote:
> On 2025-08-09, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to
>>>> multiple topics?
>>>
>>> Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
>>> out personally.
>>>
>>> <https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
>>>
>>
>> Does it do handwriting?
> 
> Short answer: dunno.
> 
> But we found this on the user forum:
> 
> <https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/141176-ipad-and-writing-notes-by-hand/>

Unfortunately the minimum cost is £79.99 pa. Too steep for me.

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#181557

On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>> 
>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>> 
>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>> 
>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>> 
>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>> 
>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>> 
>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>> opening each time.
> 
> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
> 
> So not a download lag.

Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...

    Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
boy, n.
1. Noise with dirt on it.

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#181558

On 04/08/2025 18:18, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>>
>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>>
>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>>
>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>>
>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>>
>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>>
>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>> opening each time.
>>
>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>>
>> So not a download lag.
> 
> Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...

See Message-ID: <mf48anFq98bU1@mid.individual.net> on 1 August!

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/ipad/ipad63d30b5a/14.0/ipados/14.0#iPad715e3eec

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#181562

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>> 
>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>> 
>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>> 
>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>> 
>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>> opening each time.
>> 
>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>> 
>> So not a download lag.
> 
> Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...
> 

Sadly, no difference. 

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#181560

On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
> may not be in the ipad ng.
> 
> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
> 
> In all other respects the ipad is great.
> 
> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
> this many or more notes on their ipad?
> 
> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
> 
> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.

How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with other 
things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud 
and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?

Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAP 
accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider 
problem depending on the default account used for new notes.

-- 
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, England

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#181564

Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com> wrote:
> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>> 
>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>> 
>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>> 
>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>> 
>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>> 
>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
> 
> How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with other 
> things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud 
> and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?

It's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded. 

> Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAP 
> accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider 
> problem depending on the default account used for new notes.

Er, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
email account. 

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#181566

On 05/08/2025 18:03, Chris wrote:
>> How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with other
>> things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
>> and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
> It's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded.
> 
>> Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAP
>> accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
>> problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
> Er, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
> email account.

Technically they're in your icloud.com email account which, of course, 
is in iCloud.

Go into Notes -> Accounts and you'll see a list of your current email 
providers. Under the name of the account there is small text providing 
more info.

For iCloud there's a ton of things e.g. Mail, Contacts, Calendars. For 
other email providers it will just say Mail, Notes or Mail and Notes 
depending.

-- 
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, England

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#181571

On 6 Aug 2025 at 00:10:21 BST, Bruce wrote:

> On 05/08/2025 18:03, Chris wrote:
>>> How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with other
>>> things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
>>> and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
>> It's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded.
>> 
>>> Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAP
>>> accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
>>> problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
>> Er, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
>> email account.
> 
> Technically they're in your icloud.com email account which, of course,
> is in iCloud.
> 
> Go into Notes -> Accounts and you'll see a list of your current email
> providers. Under the name of the account there is small text providing
> more info.
> 
> For iCloud there's a ton of things e.g. Mail, Contacts, Calendars. For
> other email providers it will just say Mail, Notes or Mail and Notes
> depending.

Here, it's showing iCloud associated with Notes. And a gmail account as my
iCloud email.

IOW, it looks to me as though iCloud is something separate to email accounts.
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On 6 Aug 2025 at 07:29:29 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

> On 6 Aug 2025 at 00:10:21 BST, Bruce wrote:
> 
>> On 05/08/2025 18:03, Chris wrote:
>>>> How much unused storage does the iPad have? If it is full with other
>>>> things (e.g. photos) then maybe Notes have been swapped out to iCloud
>>>> and the iPad needs to swap out, e.g. a photo before it can relaod the Notes?
>>> It's got enough space remaining with all notes downloaded.
>>> 
>>>> Another possibility: remember that Notes are associated with IMAP
>>>> accounts rather than iCloud per se, so it might be an email provider
>>>> problem depending on the default account used for new notes.
>>> Er, I don't follow. These notes are explicitly in icloud rather than an
>>> email account.
>> 
>> Technically they're in your icloud.com email account which, of course,
>> is in iCloud.
>> 
>> Go into Notes -> Accounts and you'll see a list of your current email
>> providers. Under the name of the account there is small text providing
>> more info.
>> 
>> For iCloud there's a ton of things e.g. Mail, Contacts, Calendars. For
>> other email providers it will just say Mail, Notes or Mail and Notes
>> depending.
> 
> Here, it's showing iCloud associated with Notes. And a gmail account as my
> iCloud email.
> 
> IOW, it looks to me as though iCloud is something separate to email accounts.

Rather belatedly: Notes started as a thing that stored its data in IMAP,
but for many yeasrs now it's stored directly as a database in iCloud and
synced with your local machine(s).

Since this is Apple and they give zero tools for troubleshooting, about
the only thing you can try is
* Move any local notes to iCloud
* check on icloud.com to be sure they're all up there
* disable iCloud sync for Notes on the troublesome client
* clear your local Notes entirely
* re-enable iCloud sync.

Same routine as most other iCloud hosted synced things.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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