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TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra

Started byAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
First post2025-03-24 08:51 +0000
Last post2025-04-02 08:11 +0000
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  TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-03-24 08:51 +0000
    Re: TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-24 09:10 +0000
    Re: TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2025-03-24 16:50 +0000
      Re: TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-03-24 18:32 +0000
        Re: TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) - 2025-04-02 08:11 +0000

#180719 — TM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-03-24 08:51 +0000
SubjectTM Backups to WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra
Message-ID<vrr6e1$gtog$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>
Has anyone else been experiencing issues with TM backups over WiFi using 
SMB to NAS drives in the last 2 or 3 macOS releases? My WD NAS was 
reliably performing TM backups over WiFi until the arrival of Ventura when 
I and many other users started having failures claiming timeouts, 
inability to copy certain files even to create sparse bundles on 
destination drives. The situation seemed no better with Sonoma. WD claimed 
there were bugs in Apple's implementation of SMB and offered no further 
support. So I stopped using the NAS for some considerable time relying on 
large capacity USB connected drives instead for TM. BTW I've also been 
performing separate backups via CCC to portable USB drives with no problem 
for many years. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I fired the NAS up and 
immediately received a firmware update. In the meantime my MBP has been 
updated to Sequoia and, bingo! TM backups are working again to my NAS. I 
haven't found anything (yet) on the WD support site to suggest the 
firmware update was particularly related to the problem.

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#180721

FromDavid <David.is@home.today>
Date2025-03-24 09:10 +0000
Message-ID<m4clsmFd16cU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180719
On 24/03/2025 08:51, Alan B wrote:
> Has anyone else been experiencing issues with TM backups over WiFi using
> SMB to NAS drives in the last 2 or 3 macOS releases? My WD NAS was
> reliably performing TM backups over WiFi until the arrival of Ventura when
> I and many other users started having failures claiming timeouts,
> inability to copy certain files even to create sparse bundles on
> destination drives. The situation seemed no better with Sonoma. WD claimed
> there were bugs in Apple's implementation of SMB and offered no further
> support. So I stopped using the NAS for some considerable time relying on
> large capacity USB connected drives instead for TM. BTW I've also been
> performing separate backups via CCC to portable USB drives with no problem
> for many years. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I fired the NAS up and
> immediately received a firmware update. In the meantime my MBP has been
> updated to Sequoia and, bingo! TM backups are working again to my NAS. I
> haven't found anything (yet) on the WD support site to suggest the
> firmware update was particularly related to the problem.


You may find this YT video helps you better understand matters, Alan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLGi8sPLkLY

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#180722

FromJaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Date2025-03-24 16:50 +0000
Message-ID<m4dgpqFheqfU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180719
On 24 Mar 2025 at 08:51:13 GMT, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Has anyone else been experiencing issues with TM backups over WiFi using
> SMB to NAS drives in the last 2 or 3 macOS releases? My WD NAS was
> reliably performing TM backups over WiFi until the arrival of Ventura when
> I and many other users started having failures claiming timeouts,
> inability to copy certain files even to create sparse bundles on
> destination drives. The situation seemed no better with Sonoma. WD claimed
> there were bugs in Apple's implementation of SMB and offered no further
> support. So I stopped using the NAS for some considerable time relying on
> large capacity USB connected drives instead for TM. BTW I've also been
> performing separate backups via CCC to portable USB drives with no problem
> for many years. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I fired the NAS up and
> immediately received a firmware update. In the meantime my MBP has been
> updated to Sequoia and, bingo! TM backups are working again to my NAS. I
> haven't found anything (yet) on the WD support site to suggest the
> firmware update was particularly related to the problem.

No, mine have been chugging along fine, to a TrueNAS destination (and a
Time Capsule but you'd bloody hope that'd work).

    Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
Homeopaths suffer from dilutions of grandeur

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#180723

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-03-24 18:32 +0000
Message-ID<vrs8f7$1g52o$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#180722
On 24 Mar 2025 at 16:50:02 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 24 Mar 2025 at 08:51:13 GMT, "Alan B"
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone else been experiencing issues with TM backups over WiFi using
>> SMB to NAS drives in the last 2 or 3 macOS releases? My WD NAS was
>> reliably performing TM backups over WiFi until the arrival of Ventura when
>> I and many other users started having failures claiming timeouts,
>> inability to copy certain files even to create sparse bundles on
>> destination drives. The situation seemed no better with Sonoma. WD claimed
>> there were bugs in Apple's implementation of SMB and offered no further
>> support. So I stopped using the NAS for some considerable time relying on
>> large capacity USB connected drives instead for TM. BTW I've also been
>> performing separate backups via CCC to portable USB drives with no problem
>> for many years. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I fired the NAS up and
>> immediately received a firmware update. In the meantime my MBP has been
>> updated to Sequoia and, bingo! TM backups are working again to my NAS. I
>> haven't found anything (yet) on the WD support site to suggest the
>> firmware update was particularly related to the problem.
> 
> No, mine have been chugging along fine, to a TrueNAS destination (and a
> Time Capsule but you'd bloody hope that'd work).

Indeed it should!

I bought the NAS in early 2022 on a "special" discount when Monterey was the
current macOS version and it worked fine with both my M1 MBA and Intel MBA.
Problems started to arise sporadically with Ventura. But with Sonoma and early
Sequoia, TM backups were just not working at all. I downgraded my OCLP'd MBA
to Monterey and TM worked fine on that machine again. I preferred to keep my
MBP's macOS up to date and settled for backups to USB drives. At one point I
considered installing Netatalk which should enable AFP and downgrading the NAS
firmware to a version which also supports AFP!

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#180786

Fromalanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
Date2025-04-02 08:11 +0000
Message-ID<vsirfr$1bea9$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#180723
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2025 at 16:50:02 GMT, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2025 at 08:51:13 GMT, "Alan B"
>> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone else been experiencing issues with TM backups over WiFi using
>>> SMB to NAS drives in the last 2 or 3 macOS releases? My WD NAS was
>>> reliably performing TM backups over WiFi until the arrival of Ventura when
>>> I and many other users started having failures claiming timeouts,
>>> inability to copy certain files even to create sparse bundles on
>>> destination drives. The situation seemed no better with Sonoma. WD claimed
>>> there were bugs in Apple's implementation of SMB and offered no further
>>> support. So I stopped using the NAS for some considerable time relying on
>>> large capacity USB connected drives instead for TM. BTW I've also been
>>> performing separate backups via CCC to portable USB drives with no problem
>>> for many years. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I fired the NAS up and
>>> immediately received a firmware update. In the meantime my MBP has been
>>> updated to Sequoia and, bingo! TM backups are working again to my NAS. I
>>> haven't found anything (yet) on the WD support site to suggest the
>>> firmware update was particularly related to the problem.
>> 
>> No, mine have been chugging along fine, to a TrueNAS destination (and a
>> Time Capsule but you'd bloody hope that'd work).
> 
> Indeed it should!
> 
> I bought the NAS in early 2022 on a "special" discount when Monterey was the
> current macOS version and it worked fine with both my M1 MBA and Intel MBA.
> Problems started to arise sporadically with Ventura. But with Sonoma and early
> Sequoia, TM backups were just not working at all. I downgraded my OCLP'd MBA
> to Monterey and TM worked fine on that machine again. I preferred to keep my
> MBP's macOS up to date and settled for backups to USB drives. At one point I
> considered installing Netatalk which should enable AFP and downgrading the NAS
> firmware to a version which also supports AFP!
 
Still working after 15.4 update - are we on a roll now?

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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