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  Ping: Old John! David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-21 08:37 +0000
    Re: Ping: Old John! John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-03-22 08:09 +0000
      Re: Ping: Old John! David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-22 10:31 +0000
        Re: Ping: Old John! John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-03-23 07:49 +0000
          Re: Ping: Old John! David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-23 08:05 +0000
            Re: Ping: Old John! John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-03-24 08:10 +0000
              Re: Ping: Old John! David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-24 09:03 +0000
                Re: Ping: Old John! John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> - 2025-03-25 07:49 +0000
                  Re: Ping: Old John! David <David.is@home.today> - 2025-03-25 08:49 +0000

#180713 — Ping: Old John!

Hello Old John 🙂

Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?

https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e

Thank you in anticipation of a response.

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#180714

On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:

> Hello Old John 🙂
> 
> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
> 
> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
> 
> Thank you in anticipation of a response.

Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
especially when it's ten years old.
I've enough to do anyway.

But in this specific case,
"Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"

Old John.
-- 
God makes power, Man makes engines.

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#180715

On 22/03/2025 08:09, John Hill wrote:
> On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Old John 🙂
>>
>> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
>>
>> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>
>> Thank you in anticipation of a response.
> 
> Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
> especially when it's ten years old.
> I've enough to do anyway.

Thank you for responding, John. It is appreciated. :-)

> But in this specific case,
> "Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
> later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"

How strange. Please will you post a screenshot of what you see?

Thanks, if you will.

The link https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
works just fine here in thee different browsers

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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#180716

On 22 Mar 2025 at 10:31:27 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:

> On 22/03/2025 08:09, John Hill wrote:
>> On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Old John 🙂
>>> 
>>> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
>>> 
>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>> 
>>> Thank you in anticipation of a response.
>> 
>> Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
>> especially when it's ten years old.
>> I've enough to do anyway.
> 
> Thank you for responding, John. It is appreciated. :-)
> 
>> But in this specific case,
>> "Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
>> later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"
> 
> How strange. Please will you post a screenshot of what you see?
> 
> Thanks, if you will.
> 
> The link https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
> works just fine here in thee different browsers

I can now see the conversation. A glitch somewhere? Perhaps the "Try again
later" worked.

Old John.
-- 
God made the integers. All else is the work of man.

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#180717

On 23/03/2025 07:49, John Hill wrote:
> On 22 Mar 2025 at 10:31:27 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
> 
>> On 22/03/2025 08:09, John Hill wrote:
>>> On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Old John 🙂
>>>>
>>>> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
>>>>
>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in anticipation of a response.
>>>
>>> Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
>>> especially when it's ten years old.
>>> I've enough to do anyway.
>>
>> Thank you for responding, John. It is appreciated. :-)
>>
>>> But in this specific case,
>>> "Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
>>> later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"
>>
>> How strange. Please will you post a screenshot of what you see?
>>
>> Thanks, if you will.
>>
>> The link https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>> works just fine here in thee different browsers
> 
> I can now see the conversation. A glitch somewhere? Perhaps the "Try again
> later" worked.


Thank you for letting me know, John.

My friend Jon, who lives near Bristol, said this when I sent him the 
link in Apple's 'Messages':-

"Here is my observation on this; you have sent me 2 of these CHATGPT 
conversations. In both instances it said ‘failed to load’ but when I 
clicked on the bottom panel of the link it opened instantly. Once it’s 
opened once, it always opens again instantly."

I find it fascinating that one can have a conversation with a machine in
much the same way one can with another human being! Have you tried out 
ChatGPT yourself?  https://chatgpt.com/

-- 
David

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#180718

On 23 Mar 2025 at 08:05:37 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:

> On 23/03/2025 07:49, John Hill wrote:
>> On 22 Mar 2025 at 10:31:27 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 22/03/2025 08:09, John Hill wrote:
>>>> On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Old John 🙂
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you in anticipation of a response.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
>>>> especially when it's ten years old.
>>>> I've enough to do anyway.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for responding, John. It is appreciated. :-)
>>> 
>>>> But in this specific case,
>>>> "Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
>>>> later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"
>>> 
>>> How strange. Please will you post a screenshot of what you see?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, if you will.
>>> 
>>> The link https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>> works just fine here in thee different browsers
>> 
>> I can now see the conversation. A glitch somewhere? Perhaps the "Try again
>> later" worked.
> 
> 
> Thank you for letting me know, John.
> 
> My friend Jon, who lives near Bristol, said this when I sent him the
> link in Apple's 'Messages':-
> 
> "Here is my observation on this; you have sent me 2 of these CHATGPT
> conversations. In both instances it said ‘failed to load’ but when I
> clicked on the bottom panel of the link it opened instantly. Once it’s
> opened once, it always opens again instantly."
> 
> I find it fascinating that one can have a conversation with a machine in
> much the same way one can with another human being! Have you tried out
> ChatGPT yourself?  https://chatgpt.com/

As long as you remember that it IS a machine…

I use ChatGPT fairly frequently and have asked it questions ranging from
hydrodynamics to Latin. Once I asked it to convert kilograms to stones and
pounds, and it got it wrong! TWICE, and differently.

My eldest son uses it often; he finds it can write good software. My second
son uses it for that too, and also to discuss radio related topics.

And my daughter uses it now and then.

The eldest uses other AI-based chat engines, too.

So as a family we are quite ChatGPT/AI aware.

I am about to discuss a problem in Family History research with it.

Old John.
-- 
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do,
not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do,
no matter what you tell them to do.

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#180720

On 24/03/2025 08:10, John Hill wrote:
> On 23 Mar 2025 at 08:05:37 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
> 
>> On 23/03/2025 07:49, John Hill wrote:
>>> On 22 Mar 2025 at 10:31:27 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/03/2025 08:09, John Hill wrote:
>>>>> On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Old John 🙂
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you in anticipation of a response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
>>>>> especially when it's ten years old.
>>>>> I've enough to do anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for responding, John. It is appreciated. :-)
>>>>
>>>>> But in this specific case,
>>>>> "Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
>>>>> later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"
>>>>
>>>> How strange. Please will you post a screenshot of what you see?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, if you will.
>>>>
>>>> The link https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>>> works just fine here in thee different browsers
>>>
>>> I can now see the conversation. A glitch somewhere? Perhaps the "Try again
>>> later" worked.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for letting me know, John.
>>
>> My friend Jon, who lives near Bristol, said this when I sent him the
>> link in Apple's 'Messages':-
>>
>> "Here is my observation on this; you have sent me 2 of these CHATGPT
>> conversations. In both instances it said ‘failed to load’ but when I
>> clicked on the bottom panel of the link it opened instantly. Once it’s
>> opened once, it always opens again instantly."
>>
>> I find it fascinating that one can have a conversation with a machine in
>> much the same way one can with another human being! Have you tried out
>> ChatGPT yourself?  https://chatgpt.com/
> 
> As long as you remember that it IS a machine…

Of course, Old John! 🙂

> I use ChatGPT fairly frequently and have asked it questions ranging from
> hydrodynamics to Latin. Once I asked it to convert kilograms to stones and
> pounds, and it got it wrong! TWICE, and differently.

I, too, have had cause to tell ChatGPT that it is wrong! It has always 
reacted in a positive manner and provided alternative answers.

> My eldest son uses it often; he finds it can write good software. My second
> son uses it for that too, and also to discuss radio related topics.

My eldest grandson does the same. He's an IT wizard now!

> And my daughter uses it now and then.
> 
> The eldest uses other AI-based chat engines, too.
> 
> So as a family we are quite ChatGPT/AI aware.

That's really good to know. Thank you.

> I am about to discuss a problem in Family History research with it.

Good luck with that! My wife has many years of experience with family 
research.
If you need any help with any aspect of this research, please let me
know and I'll ask if she can help.

-- 
With kind regards,
David

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#180724

On 24 Mar 2025 at 09:03:29 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:

> On 24/03/2025 08:10, John Hill wrote:
>> On 23 Mar 2025 at 08:05:37 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23/03/2025 07:49, John Hill wrote:
>>>> On 22 Mar 2025 at 10:31:27 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/03/2025 08:09, John Hill wrote:
>>>>>> On 21 Mar 2025 at 08:37:33 GMT, "David" <David.is@home.today> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Old John 🙂
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tell me, please, can you read my conversation here?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you in anticipation of a response.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, no problem. But I tend to ignore requests to read this and that,
>>>>>> especially when it's ten years old.
>>>>>> I've enough to do anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for responding, John. It is appreciated. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But in this specific case,
>>>>>> "Failed to load shared conversation. Request is not allowed. Please try again
>>>>>> later. (403, 92442e86ded8f654-LHR)"
>>>>> 
>>>>> How strange. Please will you post a screenshot of what you see?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, if you will.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The link https://chatgpt.com/share/67dd21e7-7044-8013-a8b1-e65dda0c2b8e
>>>>> works just fine here in thee different browsers
>>>> 
>>>> I can now see the conversation. A glitch somewhere? Perhaps the "Try again
>>>> later" worked.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for letting me know, John.
>>> 
>>> My friend Jon, who lives near Bristol, said this when I sent him the
>>> link in Apple's 'Messages':-
>>> 
>>> "Here is my observation on this; you have sent me 2 of these CHATGPT
>>> conversations. In both instances it said ‘failed to load’ but when I
>>> clicked on the bottom panel of the link it opened instantly. Once it’s
>>> opened once, it always opens again instantly."
>>> 
>>> I find it fascinating that one can have a conversation with a machine in
>>> much the same way one can with another human being! Have you tried out
>>> ChatGPT yourself?  https://chatgpt.com/
>> 
>> As long as you remember that it IS a machine…
> 
> Of course, Old John! 🙂
> 
>> I use ChatGPT fairly frequently and have asked it questions ranging from
>> hydrodynamics to Latin. Once I asked it to convert kilograms to stones and
>> pounds, and it got it wrong! TWICE, and differently.
> 
> I, too, have had cause to tell ChatGPT that it is wrong! It has always
> reacted in a positive manner and provided alternative answers.
> 
>> My eldest son uses it often; he finds it can write good software. My second
>> son uses it for that too, and also to discuss radio related topics.
> 
> My eldest grandson does the same. He's an IT wizard now!
> 
>> And my daughter uses it now and then.
>> 
>> The eldest uses other AI-based chat engines, too.
>> 
>> So as a family we are quite ChatGPT/AI aware.
> 
> That's really good to know. Thank you.
> 
>> I am about to discuss a problem in Family History research with it.
> 
> Good luck with that! My wife has many years of experience with family
> research.
> If you need any help with any aspect of this research, please let me
> know and I'll ask if she can help.

Thank you, but I think I can cope, just about. Anne and I each researched our
family histories for about fifteen years, until we pretty much ran out of
source material.

In this case I had encountered a situation that IIRC I had not encountered
before and I wanted to. see if ChatGPT had anything useful to offer. But,
basically, it did not.

All wildly off topic!

Old John.
-- 
God made the integers. All else is the work of man.

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#180725

On 25/03/2025 07:49, John Hill wrote:
[....]
>>> I am about to discuss a problem in Family History research with it.
>>
>> Good luck with that! My wife has many years of experience with family
>> research.
>> If you need any help with any aspect of this research, please let me
>> know and I'll ask if she can help.
> 
> Thank you, but I think I can cope, just about. Anne and I each researched our
> family histories for about fifteen years, until we pretty much ran out of
> source material.

Well done you! 🙂

> In this case I had encountered a situation that IIRC I had not encountered
> before and I wanted to. see if ChatGPT had anything useful to offer. But,
> basically, it did not.

Understood! I sometimes try to help with Trisha's research when she 
occasionally gets stuck!

> All wildly off topic!

If that REALLY matters, you are welcome to come and chat to me on my own 
private Usenet group, 'alt.computer.workshop'. There are no rules there!

> Old John.

Have you read here? 
https://groups.io/g/macsupportcentral/topic/102974036#msg18859

-- 
Have a grand day.
David

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