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| Started by | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| First post | 2025-02-17 00:02 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-02-17 15:03 -0800 |
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Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 00:02 +0000
Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 00:05 +0000
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-17 05:41 -0500
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 14:15 +0000
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-02-17 13:58 -0500
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 19:48 +0000
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 16:32 -0800
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-18 08:17 +0000
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 12:34 -0800
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 14:21 -0800
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware David <BD@invalid.email> - 2025-02-17 22:31 +0000
Re: Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-02-17 15:03 -0800
| From | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 00:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware |
| Message-ID | <m1fckgF87jmU6@mid.individual.net> |
Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware that steals personal data, goes undetected for months — here’s how to stay safe:- https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/tech/apple-users-warned-of-hi-tech-mac-malware-that-steals-personal-data-goes-undetected-for-months-heres-how-to-stay-safe //An estimated 100 million Apple users are at risk of falling victim to malware. Cybersecurity software company Check Point issued an urgent warning to the millions of Mac users around the world who may be preyed on by malicious actors evading the devices’ built-in antivirus systems. According to the company, cybercriminals have developed malware, dubbed the “Banshee macOS Stealer,” which secretly steals credentials and other sensitive data while operating undetected for more than months.// There's more ...... -- David
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| From | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 00:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1fcpdF87jmU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180252 |
On 17/02/2025 00:02, David wrote: > Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware that steals personal data, > goes undetected for months — here’s how to stay safe:- > > https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/tech/apple-users-warned-of-hi-tech-mac- > malware-that-steals-personal-data-goes-undetected-for-months-heres-how- > to-stay-safe > > //An estimated 100 million Apple users are at risk of falling victim to > malware. > > Cybersecurity software company Check Point issued an urgent warning to > the millions of Mac users around the world who may be preyed on by > malicious actors evading the devices’ built-in antivirus systems. > > According to the company, cybercriminals have developed malware, dubbed > the “Banshee macOS Stealer,” which secretly steals credentials and other > sensitive data while operating undetected for more than months.// > > There's more ...... Shared with folk on ACW -- David
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| From | FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 05:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vov3o3$13tet$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #180253 |
David pretended : > On 17/02/2025 00:02, David wrote: >> Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware that steals personal data, goes >> undetected for months — here’s how to stay safe:- >> >> https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/tech/apple-users-warned-of-hi-tech-mac- >> malware-that-steals-personal-data-goes-undetected-for-months-heres-how- >> to-stay-safe >> >> //An estimated 100 million Apple users are at risk of falling victim to >> malware. >> >> Cybersecurity software company Check Point issued an urgent warning to >> the millions of Mac users around the world who may be preyed on by >> malicious actors evading the devices’ built-in antivirus systems. >> >> According to the company, cybercriminals have developed malware, dubbed >> the “Banshee macOS Stealer,” which secretly steals credentials and other >> sensitive data while operating undetected for more than months.// >> >> There's more ...... > > Shared with folk on ACW I found no meat in that sandwich, I found this though: https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/banshee-stealer-mac-malware-resurfaced-in-new-campaigns/
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| From | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 14:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1guk5FfjgvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180276 |
On 17/02/2025 10:41, FromTheRafters wrote: > David pretended : >> On 17/02/2025 00:02, David wrote: >>> Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware that steals personal data, >>> goes undetected for months — here’s how to stay safe:- >>> >>> https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/tech/apple-users-warned-of-hi-tech-mac- >>> malware-that-steals-personal-data-goes-undetected-for-months-heres- >>> how- to-stay-safe >>> >>> //An estimated 100 million Apple users are at risk of falling victim >>> to malware. >>> >>> Cybersecurity software company Check Point issued an urgent warning to >>> the millions of Mac users around the world who may be preyed on by >>> malicious actors evading the devices’ built-in antivirus systems. >>> >>> According to the company, cybercriminals have developed malware, dubbed >>> the “Banshee macOS Stealer,” which secretly steals credentials and other >>> sensitive data while operating undetected for more than months.// >>> >>> There's more ...... >> >> Shared with folk on ACW > > I found no meat in that sandwich, I found this though: > > https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/banshee-stealer-mac-malware- > resurfaced-in-new-campaigns/ Thank you. Are you persuaded to pay for anti-malware software for your Macbook Pro? -- David
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| From | FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 13:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vp00rt$198gh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #180282 |
David pretended : > On 17/02/2025 10:41, FromTheRafters wrote: >> David pretended : >>> On 17/02/2025 00:02, David wrote: >>>> Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware that steals personal data, goes >>>> undetected for months — here’s how to stay safe:- >>>> >>>> https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/tech/apple-users-warned-of-hi-tech-mac- >>>> malware-that-steals-personal-data-goes-undetected-for-months-heres- how- >>>> to-stay-safe >>>> >>>> //An estimated 100 million Apple users are at risk of falling victim to >>>> malware. >>>> >>>> Cybersecurity software company Check Point issued an urgent warning to >>>> the millions of Mac users around the world who may be preyed on by >>>> malicious actors evading the devices’ built-in antivirus systems. >>>> >>>> According to the company, cybercriminals have developed malware, dubbed >>>> the “Banshee macOS Stealer,” which secretly steals credentials and other >>>> sensitive data while operating undetected for more than months.// >>>> >>>> There's more ...... >>> >>> Shared with folk on ACW >> >> I found no meat in that sandwich, I found this though: >> >> https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/banshee-stealer-mac-malware- >> resurfaced-in-new-campaigns/ > > Thank you. > > Are you persuaded to pay for anti-malware software for your Macbook Pro? Not yet.
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| From | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 19:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1hi3uFik5sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180290 |
On 17/02/2025 18:58, FromTheRafters wrote: > David pretended : >> On 17/02/2025 10:41, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> David pretended : >>>> On 17/02/2025 00:02, David wrote: >>>>> Apple users warned of hi-tech Mac malware that steals personal >>>>> data, goes undetected for months — here’s how to stay safe:- >>>>> >>>>> https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/tech/apple-users-warned-of-hi-tech- >>>>> mac- malware-that-steals-personal-data-goes-undetected-for-months- >>>>> heres- how- to-stay-safe >>>>> >>>>> //An estimated 100 million Apple users are at risk of falling >>>>> victim to malware. >>>>> >>>>> Cybersecurity software company Check Point issued an urgent warning to >>>>> the millions of Mac users around the world who may be preyed on by >>>>> malicious actors evading the devices’ built-in antivirus systems. >>>>> >>>>> According to the company, cybercriminals have developed malware, >>>>> dubbed >>>>> the “Banshee macOS Stealer,” which secretly steals credentials and >>>>> other >>>>> sensitive data while operating undetected for more than months.// >>>>> >>>>> There's more ...... >>>> >>>> Shared with folk on ACW >>> >>> I found no meat in that sandwich, I found this though: >>> >>> https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/banshee-stealer-mac-malware- >>> resurfaced-in-new-campaigns/ >> >> Thank you. >> >> Are you persuaded to pay for anti-malware software for your Macbook Pro? > > Not yet. OK. Thanks.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 16:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m1i2o7Fl1a1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180295 |
BDB wrote: > FTR wrote: >> David pretended : >>>> >>> Are you persuaded to pay for anti-malware software for your Macbook Pro? >> >> Not yet. > > OK. Thanks. I predict FTR does a lot less 'stupid stuff' on his Mac than you do BDB. Behavior has a lot to do w/ the risks of being on the internet. The idea that you can act however you want to and just format the drive and reinstall periodically is NOT good strategy. -- Mike Easter
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| From | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 08:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1iu19Fojf3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180311 |
On 18/02/2025 00:32, Mike Easter wrote: > BDB wrote: >> FTR wrote: >>> David pretended : >>>>> >>>> Are you persuaded to pay for anti-malware software for your Macbook >>>> Pro? >>> >>> Not yet. >> >> OK. Thanks. > > I predict FTR does a lot less 'stupid stuff' on his Mac than you do BDB. I agree, 100% > Behavior has a lot to do w/ the risks of being on the internet. Again, I agree. > The idea that you can act however you want to and just format the drive > and reinstall periodically is NOT good strategy. Please explain WHY you think that, Mike. -- ChatGPT says .... You're absolutely right. Relying on periodic reinstalls as a way to deal with bad security practices, poor system maintenance, or reckless software installations is a terrible strategy. Some reasons why include: 1. **Data Loss Risks** – Even with backups, there’s always a chance of losing something important. 2. **Malware Persistence** – Some malware can survive reinstalls by hiding in firmware or infecting backups. 3. **Time-Consuming** – Reinstalling and setting everything up again takes time that could be saved by proper maintenance. 4. **Hardware Wear** – Constantly writing large amounts of data during reinstalls contributes to SSD wear. 5. **Bad Habits Stay** – If someone keeps making the same mistakes, reinstalling won’t fix the root problem. A better approach is to maintain good security habits, use backups properly, and troubleshoot issues instead of nuking the system every time something goes wrong.
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 12:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m1hkrcFiu5aU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180276 |
FTR wrote: > I found no meat in that sandwich, I found this though: > > https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/banshee-stealer-mac- > malware- resurfaced-in-new-campaigns/ That article has an interesting section: > How can I keep my Mac safe from stealer malware? The site is actually a promotional one for an antimalware Intego. Not only is it a 'counter-balance' to the idea of Macs not needing 3rd party ware, but it also takes a smack at one of BDB's faves, namely VT, which doesn't include Intego: > Notably, Intego’s VirusBarrier engine is not one of the more than 60 > engines on VirusTotal. Intego did not have an extended gap in > Banshee Stealer variant detection, unlike many other antivirus > companies seem to have had. In fact, Intego was already detecting > the supposedly “new” variants several months before the latest > reports hit the news cycle. I was curious about which engines were detecting that malware; sortofa when did what ware, including Mac's, start being able to detect the family. I don't know how to use VT to see that; maybe somewhere else there is a specific article whose purpose isn't just to promote Intego. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 14:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m1hr35Fjuv3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180296 |
Mike Easter wrote: > maybe somewhere else there is a specific article whose purpose isn't > just to promote Intego. This site has more than anyone should want to know about this malware. I don't really understand the idea of the ware's 'stealing' of Mac's XProtect 'string'. https://research.checkpoint.com/2025/banshee-macos-stealer-that-stole-code-from-macos-xprotect/ > Banshee: The Stealer That “Stole Code” From MacOS XProtect Bleeping Computer's explanation is easier to get: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/banshee-stealer-evades-detection-using-apple-xprotect-encryption-algo/ > Banshee stealer evades detection using Apple XProtect encryption algo -- Mike Easter
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| From | David <BD@invalid.email> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 22:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m1hrl6Fjft2U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180301 |
On 17/02/2025 22:21, Mike Easter wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> maybe somewhere else there is a specific article whose purpose isn't >> just to promote Intego. > > This site has more than anyone should want to know about this malware. I > don't really understand the idea of the ware's 'stealing' of Mac's > XProtect 'string'. > > https://research.checkpoint.com/2025/banshee-macos-stealer-that-stole- > code-from-macos-xprotect/ > >> Banshee: The Stealer That “Stole Code” From MacOS XProtect > > Bleeping Computer's explanation is easier to get: > > https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/banshee-stealer-evades- > detection-using-apple-xprotect-encryption-algo/ > >> Banshee stealer evades detection using Apple XProtect encryption algo Frightening, eh?!!! ;-) Well, it should be ....... for users of Mac computers! -- David
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 15:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <m1htivFk554U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #180303 |
David wrote: > Frightening, eh?!!! 😉 > > Well, it should be ....... for users of Mac computers! If you read about or pay attention to how it is 'distributed' and installed, you might feel a little less frightened. The whole idea is to foist malware on people who are trying to get cracks of copyrighted s/w. If you aren't that type, it seems that you wouldn't be likely to come across and offer to give you something to install the malware, unbeknownst. -- Mike Easter
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