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[OT] compliance checker for docx files?

Started byChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
First post2025-01-24 09:16 +0000
Last post2025-01-25 18:47 +0000
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  [OT] compliance checker for docx files? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 09:16 +0000
    Re: [OT] compliance checker for docx files? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-01-24 10:08 +0000
      Re: [OT] compliance checker for docx files? Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-01-24 10:21 +0000
      Re: [OT] compliance checker for docx files? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-24 17:14 +0000
      Re: [OT] compliance checker for docx files? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-01-26 10:45 +0100
    Re: [OT] compliance checker for docx files? Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-25 17:01 +0000
      Re: [OT] compliance checker for docx files? TimS <tim@streater.me.uk> - 2025-01-25 18:47 +0000

#180087 — [OT] compliance checker for docx files?

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-24 09:16 +0000
Subject[OT] compliance checker for docx files?
Message-ID<vmvlpr$25k73$1@dont-email.me>
This is a bit OT, but a real puzzler. All files were created on macs to 
keep it slight on-topic.

tl;dr Anyone heard of a system which refuses perfectly good docx files 
created with LibreOffice, yet allows the same file yet saved from Word? 
Is Microsoft playing silly buggers with standards again?

A family member is applying for a course at Edinburgh Uni and the 
requirement is to upload a word file with a link to an online portfolio. 
So a really tiny file.

The web ui for applications consistently bounces any attempt to upload 
the word file created with LO with no error message or anything. It just 
refereshes the page.

We've spent the last 24 hours trying to debug this and a crazy idea was 
to open it and save it in bona fide Word. Insanely that solved the issue!

Functionally there is no difference between the two files when opening 
with Word or LO, although the LO version is only 5,583 bytes whereas the 
Word version is 12,337 bytes.

Is the issue likely to be LO or the website?

Is there a tool that checks the validity of docx files at all?

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#180088

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-01-24 10:08 +0000
Message-ID<vmvoq2$264vk$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#180087
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This is a bit OT, but a real puzzler. All files were created on macs to 
> keep it slight on-topic.
> 
> tl;dr Anyone heard of a system which refuses perfectly good docx files 
> created with LibreOffice, yet allows the same file yet saved from Word? 
> Is Microsoft playing silly buggers with standards again?
> 
> A family member is applying for a course at Edinburgh Uni and the 
> requirement is to upload a word file with a link to an online portfolio. 
> So a really tiny file.
> 
> The web ui for applications consistently bounces any attempt to upload 
> the word file created with LO with no error message or anything. It just 
> refereshes the page.
> 
> We've spent the last 24 hours trying to debug this and a crazy idea was 
> to open it and save it in bona fide Word. Insanely that solved the issue!
> 
> Functionally there is no difference between the two files when opening 
> with Word or LO, although the LO version is only 5,583 bytes whereas the 
> Word version is 12,337 bytes.
> 
> Is the issue likely to be LO or the website?
> 
> Is there a tool that checks the validity of docx files at all?

Why on earth doesn’t the uni accept PDF docs?

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#180089

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-01-24 10:21 +0000
Message-ID<vmvpk4$269ud$1@alanrichardbarker.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#180088
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is a bit OT, but a real puzzler. All files were created on macs to 
>> keep it slight on-topic.
>> 
>> tl;dr Anyone heard of a system which refuses perfectly good docx files 
>> created with LibreOffice, yet allows the same file yet saved from Word? 
>> Is Microsoft playing silly buggers with standards again?
>> 
>> A family member is applying for a course at Edinburgh Uni and the 
>> requirement is to upload a word file with a link to an online portfolio. 
>> So a really tiny file.
>> 
>> The web ui for applications consistently bounces any attempt to upload 
>> the word file created with LO with no error message or anything. It just 
>> refereshes the page.
>> 
>> We've spent the last 24 hours trying to debug this and a crazy idea was 
>> to open it and save it in bona fide Word. Insanely that solved the issue!
>> 
>> Functionally there is no difference between the two files when opening 
>> with Word or LO, although the LO version is only 5,583 bytes whereas the 
>> Word version is 12,337 bytes.
>> 
>> Is the issue likely to be LO or the website?
>> 
>> Is there a tool that checks the validity of docx files at all?
> 
> Why on earth doesn’t the uni accept PDF docs?

Just did a quick browse around and came across this product:

<https://www.onlyoffice.com/en/document-editor.aspx?docs=download>

I wonder if it does better than LO seems to do re MS compatibility?

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#180090

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-24 17:14 +0000
Message-ID<vn0hpt$2avfi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#180088
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is a bit OT, but a real puzzler. All files were created on macs to 
>> keep it slight on-topic.
>> 
>> tl;dr Anyone heard of a system which refuses perfectly good docx files 
>> created with LibreOffice, yet allows the same file yet saved from Word? 
>> Is Microsoft playing silly buggers with standards again?
>> 
>> A family member is applying for a course at Edinburgh Uni and the 
>> requirement is to upload a word file with a link to an online portfolio. 
>> So a really tiny file.
>> 
>> The web ui for applications consistently bounces any attempt to upload 
>> the word file created with LO with no error message or anything. It just 
>> refereshes the page.
>> 
>> We've spent the last 24 hours trying to debug this and a crazy idea was 
>> to open it and save it in bona fide Word. Insanely that solved the issue!
>> 
>> Functionally there is no difference between the two files when opening 
>> with Word or LO, although the LO version is only 5,583 bytes whereas the 
>> Word version is 12,337 bytes.
>> 
>> Is the issue likely to be LO or the website?
>> 
>> Is there a tool that checks the validity of docx files at all?
> 
> Why on earth doesn’t the uni accept PDF docs?

It does, but the instruction was to upload a docx. I suggested pdf but the
family member didn't want to risk it. 

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#180100

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2025-01-26 10:45 +0100
Message-ID<67960456$3$410$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#180088
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > This is a bit OT, but a real puzzler. All files were created on macs to
> > keep it slight on-topic.
> > 
> > tl;dr Anyone heard of a system which refuses perfectly good docx files
> > created with LibreOffice, yet allows the same file yet saved from Word?
> > Is Microsoft playing silly buggers with standards again?
> > 
> > A family member is applying for a course at Edinburgh Uni and the 
> > requirement is to upload a word file with a link to an online portfolio.
> > So a really tiny file.
> > 
> > The web ui for applications consistently bounces any attempt to upload
> > the word file created with LO with no error message or anything. It just
> > refereshes the page.
> > 
> > We've spent the last 24 hours trying to debug this and a crazy idea was
> > to open it and save it in bona fide Word. Insanely that solved the issue!
> > 
> > Functionally there is no difference between the two files when opening
> > with Word or LO, although the LO version is only 5,583 bytes whereas the
> > Word version is 12,337 bytes.
> > 
> > Is the issue likely to be LO or the website?
> > 
> > Is there a tool that checks the validity of docx files at all?

It may check the Creator Code.
Resaving will change that,

Jan

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#180095

FromAnother John <lalaw44@hotmail.com>
Date2025-01-25 17:01 +0000
Message-ID<bO8lP.122710$7K37.29817@usenetxs.com>
In reply to#180087
On 24 Jan 2025 at 09:16:41 GMT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> This is a bit OT, but a real puzzler. All files were created on macs to
> keep it slight on-topic.
> 
> tl;dr Anyone heard of a system which refuses perfectly good docx files
> created with LibreOffice, yet allows the same file yet saved from Word?
> Is Microsoft playing silly buggers with standards again?
> 
> A family member is applying for a course at Edinburgh Uni and the
> requirement is to upload a word file with a link to an online portfolio.
> So a really tiny file.
> 
> The web ui for applications consistently bounces any attempt to upload
> the word file created with LO with no error message or anything. It just
> refereshes the page.
> 
> We've spent the last 24 hours trying to debug this and a crazy idea was
> to open it and save it in bona fide Word. Insanely that solved the issue!
> 
> Functionally there is no difference between the two files when opening
> with Word or LO, although the LO version is only 5,583 bytes whereas the
> Word version is 12,337 bytes.
> 
> Is the issue likely to be LO or the website?
> 
> Is there a tool that checks the validity of docx files at all?

The puzzling thing to me is why they insist on an MS docx file. Perhaps it
shows how deep MS have got their teeth into British universities in recent
years.    (Although it might not be the University (it's Edinburgh after
all!), but the academic who is insisting on docx files, which in my view would
be a liability (cf. your ref to comparative file sizes).

Time Streater used to have a great .sig line which referred to MS Explorer,
and websites which refused to open if you used any other browser. 

2p
John

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#180096

FromTimS <tim@streater.me.uk>
Date2025-01-25 18:47 +0000
Message-ID<lvkpt7Fo8raU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#180095
On 25 Jan 2025 at 17:01:59 GMT, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tim Streater used to have a great .sig line which referred to MS Explorer,
> and websites which refused to open if you used any other browser.

Still do, old bean old fruit.

-- 
Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network.

-- Tim Berners-Lee

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