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  I need to customise the Open With menu Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> - 2020-07-20 20:35 +0100
    Re: I need to customise the Open With menu nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-20 22:35 +0200
      Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> - 2020-07-21 07:51 +0100
        Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-21 07:13 +0000
          Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-21 09:06 -0700
            Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 18:08 +0000
              Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-21 18:21 +0000
                Re: I need to customise the Open With menu David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-21 20:28 +0100
                  Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-21 13:02 -0700
              Re: I need to customise the Open With menu RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-22 07:24 +0000
    Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 10:06 +0000
      Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> - 2020-07-21 11:36 +0100
        Re: I need to customise the Open With menu nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-21 17:17 +0200
        Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-21 17:39 +0000
          Re: I need to customise the Open With menu nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2020-07-21 21:45 +0200
            Re: I need to customise the Open With menu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-21 13:01 -0700

#145655 — I need to customise the Open With menu

I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one 
of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I 
know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this 
a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.

-- 
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
Soosh - 2013 - Colour Is Breathe

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#145658

Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:

> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.

Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
and/or in the Toolbar,

Jan

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#145669

On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
> 
> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
> and/or in the Toolbar,

Thanks, but that won't do what I want.

-- 
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
Mark Stewart - 1985 - As The Veneer Of Democracy Starts To Fade

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#145671

Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>> 
>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>> and/or in the Toolbar,
> 
> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
> 

You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
tomorrow to see if I can make one. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

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#145696

On 7/21/20 12:13 AM, Snit wrote:
> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>
>>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>>> and/or in the Toolbar,
>>
>> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
>>
> 
> You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
> tomorrow to see if I can make one.
> 

OK, played for a bit. There might be a better way, but this is what I 
came up with, in Automator:

Create a new Quick Action

Set "Workflow receives current [Movies files] in [Any Application]
(You can set that to be just the Finder)

Add "Run AppleScript" action. In that action paste the following:

-----
on run {input}
   tell application "TV"
     activate
     open input
   end tell
end run
-----


And that is it. It will NOT show up in the Open With menu, but it will 
show up at the bottom of the right click menu.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#145698

On 21 Jul 2020 at 17:06:59 BST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 7/21/20 12:13 AM, Snit wrote:
>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>> 
>>>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>>>> and/or in the Toolbar,
>>> 
>>> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
>>> 
>> 
>> You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
>> tomorrow to see if I can make one.
>> 
> 
> OK, played for a bit. There might be a better way, but this is what I 
> came up with, in Automator:
> 
> Create a new Quick Action
> 
> Set "Workflow receives current [Movies files] in [Any Application]
> (You can set that to be just the Finder)
> 
> Add "Run AppleScript" action. In that action paste the following:
> 
> -----
> on run {input}
> tell application "TV"
> activate
> open input
> end tell
> end run
> -----
> 
> 
> And that is it. It will NOT show up in the Open With menu, but it will 
> show up at the bottom of the right click menu.

Fancy! That's very neat, thank you.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.
                                                                  -- Hegel

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#145699

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 21 Jul 2020 at 17:06:59 BST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/21/20 12:13 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>>>>> and/or in the Toolbar,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
>>> tomorrow to see if I can make one.
>>> 
>> 
>> OK, played for a bit. There might be a better way, but this is what I 
>> came up with, in Automator:
>> 
>> Create a new Quick Action
>> 
>> Set "Workflow receives current [Movies files] in [Any Application]
>> (You can set that to be just the Finder)
>> 
>> Add "Run AppleScript" action. In that action paste the following:
>> 
>> -----
>> on run {input}
>> tell application "TV"
>> activate
>> open input
>> end tell
>> end run
>> -----
>> 
>> 
>> And that is it. It will NOT show up in the Open With menu, but it will 
>> show up at the bottom of the right click menu.
> 
> Fancy! That's very neat, thank you.
> 
> 	Cheers - Jaimie

No problem. It is not specific to any type of video but will only show up
for video files. 

Did you get it working? If not, and if you want it, I can share the one I
made (not locked so you can open in Automator first to check it). Or I can
make a quick video to show exactly how it is done.  

I love with Macs how you can easily build such things even if you are not a
programmer. 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

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#145703

On 21/07/2020 19:21, Snit wrote:
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>> On 21 Jul 2020 at 17:06:59 BST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/21/20 12:13 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>>>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>>>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>>>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>>>>>> and/or in the Toolbar,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
>>>> tomorrow to see if I can make one.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, played for a bit. There might be a better way, but this is what I
>>> came up with, in Automator:
>>>
>>> Create a new Quick Action
>>>
>>> Set "Workflow receives current [Movies files] in [Any Application]
>>> (You can set that to be just the Finder)
>>>
>>> Add "Run AppleScript" action. In that action paste the following:
>>>
>>> -----
>>> on run {input}
>>> tell application "TV"
>>> activate
>>> open input
>>> end tell
>>> end run
>>> -----
>>>
>>>
>>> And that is it. It will NOT show up in the Open With menu, but it will
>>> show up at the bottom of the right click menu.
>>
>> Fancy! That's very neat, thank you.
>>
>> 	Cheers - Jaimie
> 
> No problem. It is not specific to any type of video but will only show up
> for video files.
> 
> Did you get it working? If not, and if you want it, I can share the one I
> made (not locked so you can open in Automator first to check it). Or I can
> make a quick video to show exactly how it is done.
> 
> I love with Macs how you can easily build such things even if you are not a
> programmer.

Thank you for doing that, Snit.

You are one of the kindest people I know on-line! :-D

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#145706

On 7/21/20 12:28 PM, David_B wrote:
> On 21/07/2020 19:21, Snit wrote:
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>> On 21 Jul 2020 at 17:06:59 BST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/21/20 12:13 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV 
>>>>>>>> App as one
>>>>>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 
>>>>>>>> files. I
>>>>>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I 
>>>>>>>> do this
>>>>>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>>>>>>> and/or in the Toolbar,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
>>>>> tomorrow to see if I can make one.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, played for a bit. There might be a better way, but this is what I
>>>> came up with, in Automator:
>>>>
>>>> Create a new Quick Action
>>>>
>>>> Set "Workflow receives current [Movies files] in [Any Application]
>>>> (You can set that to be just the Finder)
>>>>
>>>> Add "Run AppleScript" action. In that action paste the following:
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> on run {input}
>>>> tell application "TV"
>>>> activate
>>>> open input
>>>> end tell
>>>> end run
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And that is it. It will NOT show up in the Open With menu, but it will
>>>> show up at the bottom of the right click menu.
>>>
>>> Fancy! That's very neat, thank you.
>>>
>>>     Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>> No problem. It is not specific to any type of video but will only show up
>> for video files.
>>
>> Did you get it working? If not, and if you want it, I can share the one I
>> made (not locked so you can open in Automator first to check it). Or I 
>> can
>> make a quick video to show exactly how it is done.
>>
>> I love with Macs how you can easily build such things even if you are 
>> not a
>> programmer.
> 
> Thank you for doing that, Snit.
> 
> You are one of the kindest people I know on-line! :-D
> 

Thank you. I wish more interactions were like this... or like the recent 
one where people helped me with Windows speed in a VM.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#145710

On 21 Jul 2020 at 19:08:52 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 21 Jul 2020 at 17:06:59 BST, "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/21/20 12:13 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/2020 21:35, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Much easier to put an alias of the app on the desktop,
>>>>> and/or in the Toolbar,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, but that won't do what I want.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> You might be able to create an Automator Action to do it. I can play
>>> tomorrow to see if I can make one.
>>> 
>> 
>> OK, played for a bit. There might be a better way, but this is what I 
>> came up with, in Automator:
>> 
>> Create a new Quick Action
>> 
>> Set "Workflow receives current [Movies files] in [Any Application]
>> (You can set that to be just the Finder)
>> 
>> Add "Run AppleScript" action. In that action paste the following:
>> 
>> -----
>> on run {input}
>> tell application "TV"
>> activate
>> open input
>> end tell
>> end run
>> -----
>> 
>> 
>> And that is it. It will NOT show up in the Open With menu, but it will 
>> show up at the bottom of the right click menu.
> 

I (and I'd assume others) have a Quick Action item on right click - it shows
up there too. Quite why Quick Actions need 2 entries in the right click menus
 . . 


-- 
Cheers, Rob

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#145677

On 20 Jul 2020 at 20:35:22 BST, "Basil Jet" <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:

> 
> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one 
> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I 
> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this 
> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.

Used to be able to do it by editing one of the .plists in the app bundle, but
I bet that doesn't work any more with app signing.

Does setting it the default app for mp4 then setting whatever you actually
want the default app to be again make TV stick in the menu?

You can drag/n/drop mp4s to TV in the Dock, if that's any use.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong.
                                                               -- HL Mencken

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#145679

On 21/07/2020 11:06, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2020 at 20:35:22 BST, "Basil Jet" <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
> 
> Used to be able to do it by editing one of the .plists in the app bundle, but
> I bet that doesn't work any more with app signing.
> 
> Does setting it the default app for mp4 then setting whatever you actually
> want the default app to be again make TV stick in the menu?

No, tried that months ago.

> You can drag/n/drop mp4s to TV in the Dock, if that's any use.

Brilliant, that does exactly what I need.
I never would have thought of that!

Thanks to you and everyone else who replied.

-- 
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
Four Tet - 2005 - Everything Ecstatic

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#145689

Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:

> On 21/07/2020 11:06, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> > On 20 Jul 2020 at 20:35:22 BST, "Basil Jet" <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
> >> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
> >> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
> >> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
> > 
> > Used to be able to do it by editing one of the .plists in the app
> > bundle, but I bet that doesn't work any more with app signing.
> > 
> > Does setting it the default app for mp4 then setting whatever you
> > actually want the default app to be again make TV stick in the menu?
> 
> No, tried that months ago.
> 
> > You can drag/n/drop mp4s to TV in the Dock, if that's any use.
> 
> Brilliant, that does exactly what I need.
> I never would have thought of that!

What's the difference between dragging to the dock
and dragging to an alias in the toolbar,
or to an alias on the destop?

I prefer the toolbar, because it is usually closer,

Jan


Jan

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#145697

Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> On 21/07/2020 11:06, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 20:35:22 BST, "Basil Jet" <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>> 
>> Used to be able to do it by editing one of the .plists in the app bundle, but
>> I bet that doesn't work any more with app signing.
>> 
>> Does setting it the default app for mp4 then setting whatever you actually
>> want the default app to be again make TV stick in the menu?
> 
> No, tried that months ago.
> 
>> You can drag/n/drop mp4s to TV in the Dock, if that's any use.
> 
> Brilliant, that does exactly what I need.
> I never would have thought of that!
> 
> Thanks to you and everyone else who replied.
> 

Nothing wrong with that method. I also offer a way to have the option in
the right click menu — I neglected to note it will only show up for videos
(though cannot limit time just MP4s). 

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

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#145704

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> > On 21/07/2020 11:06, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> >> On 20 Jul 2020 at 20:35:22 BST, "Basil Jet" <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
> >>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
> >>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
> >>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
> >> 
> >> Used to be able to do it by editing one of the .plists in the app
> >> bundle, but I bet that doesn't work any more with app signing.
> >> 
> >> Does setting it the default app for mp4 then setting whatever you
> >> actually want the default app to be again make TV stick in the menu?
> > 
> > No, tried that months ago.
> > 
> >> You can drag/n/drop mp4s to TV in the Dock, if that's any use.
> > 
> > Brilliant, that does exactly what I need.
> > I never would have thought of that!
> > 
> > Thanks to you and everyone else who replied.
> > 
> 
> Nothing wrong with that method. I also offer a way to have the option in
> the right click menu - I neglected to note it will only show up for videos
> (though cannot limit time just MP4s). 

In my experience the right click - > open with method
is often quite slow.
Each time the Finder is going through the same motions,
again and again,

Jan

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#145705

On 7/21/20 12:45 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> Basil Jet <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>> On 21/07/2020 11:06, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
>>>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 20:35:22 BST, "Basil Jet" <basil@spamspamspam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like the "Open With" menu for mp4 files to include the TV App as one
>>>>> of the options. I don't want to make it the default app for mp4 files. I
>>>>> know that if I select "Other..." I can get to the TV app, but I do this
>>>>> a lot and would like to get at it a bit quicker.
>>>>
>>>> Used to be able to do it by editing one of the .plists in the app
>>>> bundle, but I bet that doesn't work any more with app signing.
>>>>
>>>> Does setting it the default app for mp4 then setting whatever you
>>>> actually want the default app to be again make TV stick in the menu?
>>>
>>> No, tried that months ago.
>>>
>>>> You can drag/n/drop mp4s to TV in the Dock, if that's any use.
>>>
>>> Brilliant, that does exactly what I need.
>>> I never would have thought of that!
>>>
>>> Thanks to you and everyone else who replied.
>>>
>>
>> Nothing wrong with that method. I also offer a way to have the option in
>> the right click menu - I neglected to note it will only show up for videos
>> (though cannot limit time just MP4s).
> 
> In my experience the right click - > open with method
> is often quite slow.
> Each time the Finder is going through the same motions,
> again and again,
> 
> Jan
> 
I have seen the "Open With..." dialog take a moment to repopulate, and 
even had to rebuild the database behind it, but after the first right 
click it is generally almost instantaneous for me. Trying it now there 
is no detectable lag (which is not to say I never see it).

I will have some considerable lag running the system services I have 
made in Automator if they have not been run in a while... and that COULD 
happen with my solution here (a several second delay).

But not trying to talk you into one method or the other... just provided 
a different way to get the same task done.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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