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Started byTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
First post2020-07-20 20:42 +0000
Last post2020-07-29 19:57 +0000
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  Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-20 20:42 +0000
    Re: Usenapp Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-07-20 14:21 -0700
    Re: Usenapp Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-20 21:56 +0000
      Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-20 22:05 +0000
        Re: Usenapp Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-20 22:10 +0000
        Re: Usenapp Flavio Matani <flavio_matani@mac.com> - 2020-07-29 19:58 +0000
    Re: Usenapp RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2020-07-21 04:52 +0000
      Re: Usenapp Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-20 22:08 -0700
    Re: Usenapp Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-21 07:05 +0000
    Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-21 07:47 +0000
      Re: Usenapp Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 10:04 +0000
        Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-21 11:09 +0000
          Re: Usenapp jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2020-07-21 15:00 +0100
            Re: Usenapp Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-21 14:23 +0000
            Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-21 15:35 +0000
      Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-21 15:37 +0000
        Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-21 18:31 +0000
          Re: Usenapp thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim Hodgson) - 2020-07-28 10:25 +0100
            Re: Usenapp Ray <amos-jones@outlook.com> - 2020-07-28 09:33 +0000
            Re: Usenapp Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2020-07-28 12:16 +0100
            Re: Usenapp Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-07-28 11:23 +0000
            Re: Usenapp Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2020-07-28 12:06 +0000
            Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-28 14:29 +0000
            Re: Usenapp Bernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de> - 2020-07-29 06:35 +0000
            Re: Usenapp Andre <andre@usenapp.root> - 2020-07-29 08:03 +0000
              Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-29 11:14 +0000
                Re: Usenapp Andre <andre@usenapp.root> - 2020-07-29 13:05 +0000
                  Re: Usenapp TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> - 2020-07-29 20:11 +0000
    Re: Usenapp Flavio Matani <flavio_matani@mac.com> - 2020-07-29 19:57 +0000

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#145660 — Usenapp

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-20 20:42 +0000
SubjectUsenapp
Message-ID<hnmdt2Fb1g6U3@mid.individual.net>
Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download everything
in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
-- 
TimH
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#145663

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2020-07-20 14:21 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.24C642480619095A70000C57A2CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#145660
On Jul 20, 2020, TimH wrote
(in article <hnmdt2Fb1g6U3@mid.individual.net>):

> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download everything
> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?

Consider that Usenapp is still in Beta with a final polished version yet to be released, while MacSOUP is flying without support, or further development, and is ultimately doomedware.

-- 
Regards,
Savageduck

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#145664

FromJaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Date2020-07-20 21:56 +0000
Message-ID<hnmi8pFc2cdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145660
On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download everything
> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?

Nope. I have mine set to autodownload bodies and refresh on startup and every
10 mins, which would obviate any waiting. Right click a newsgroup, Edit
Subscription.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing
it.

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#145665

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-20 22:05 +0000
Message-ID<hnmiokFc1bcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145664
On 20 Jul 2020 at 22:56:41 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>> everything
>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Nope. I have mine set to autodownload bodies and refresh on startup and every
> 10 mins, which would obviate any waiting. Right click a newsgroup, Edit
> Subscription.

Odd. I have exactly the same settings. This is using the Berlin server, by the
way.
-- 
TimH
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#145666

FromJaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Date2020-07-20 22:10 +0000
Message-ID<hnmj26Fc767U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145665
On 20 Jul 2020 at 23:05:08 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 20 Jul 2020 at 22:56:41 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>>> everything
>>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
>> 
>> Nope. I have mine set to autodownload bodies and refresh on startup and every
>> 10 mins, which would obviate any waiting. Right click a newsgroup, Edit
>> Subscription.
> 
> Odd. I have exactly the same settings. This is using the Berlin server, by the
> way.

Just restarted mine to check, and it downloaded this before I blinked. I'm on
Individual.

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
'It's one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? `I protect the lives and 
property of my citizens; you keep the public safe from an unreasonable 
and trouble-generating minority; he maintains a totalitarian regime of 
thought control.'                             -- Bernard, Yes Minister

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#145979

FromFlavio Matani <flavio_matani@mac.com>
Date2020-07-29 19:58 +0000
Message-ID<rfske0$s76$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145665
On 20 Jul 2020 at 23:05:08 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 20 Jul 2020 at 22:56:41 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>>> everything
>>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
>> 
>> Nope. I have mine set to autodownload bodies and refresh on startup and every
>> 10 mins, which would obviate any waiting. Right click a newsgroup, Edit
>> Subscription.
> 
> Odd. I have exactly the same settings. This is using the Berlin server, by
> the
> way.

Eternal September here (in case it makes a difference).
-- 

guitar lessons (classical, electric, acoustic, bass) 
ABRSM and Trinity grades up to and beyond grade 8
Theory of Music

https://camdenguitar.wordpress.com
https://flavio-matani-guitar-lessons.business.site/

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#145667

FromRJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
Date2020-07-21 04:52 +0000
Message-ID<rf5sa2$1j2v$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#145660
On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
> everything
> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?

Near instant here - manual fetch headers, Aloe.

-- 
Cheers, Rob

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#145668

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2020-07-20 22:08 -0700
Message-ID<hnnbioFgu0bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145667
On 7/20/20 9:52 PM, RJH wrote:
> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>> everything
>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Near instant here - manual fetch headers, Aloe.
> 

Pretty fast here, too. Not instant, but acceptable.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#145670

FromBernd Froehlich <befr@eaglesoft.de>
Date2020-07-21 07:05 +0000
Message-ID<hnnicsFi31gU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145660
On 20. Jul 2020 at 22:42:10 CEST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
> everything
> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?

Nope. When I start Usenap it instantly downloads the new articles in my 27
subscriptions. Takes only a few seconds.

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#145673

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-21 07:47 +0000
Message-ID<hnnks4Fi7n3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145660
On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
> everything
> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?

Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem, not
Usenapp's.
-- 
TimH
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#145676

FromJaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Date2020-07-21 10:04 +0000
Message-ID<hnnsslFkgiaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145673
On 21 Jul 2020 at 08:47:16 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>> everything
>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem, not
> Usenapp's.

Or your news server, more likely. Tried flipping between encrypted and plain?

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
Communicating badly and then acting smug when 
you're misunderstood is not cleverness.        -- http://xkcd.com/169

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#145682

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-21 11:09 +0000
Message-ID<hno0mdFktvqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145676
On 21 Jul 2020 at 11:04:05 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 21 Jul 2020 at 08:47:16 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>>> everything
>>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
>> 
>> Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem, not
>> Usenapp's.
> 
> Or your news server, more likely. Tried flipping between encrypted and plain?

No, but it's Individual, like you.

> -- 
TimH
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#145687

Fromjeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-21 15:00 +0100
Message-ID<MPG.3981055a1277d6198973c@news.individual.net>
In reply to#145682
In article <hno0mdFktvqU1@mid.individual.net>, 
thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid says...
> 
> No, but it's Individual, like you.
> 

Is that a compliment to Jamie?


-- 
jeremy

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#145688

FromJaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Date2020-07-21 14:23 +0000
Message-ID<hnoc3cFls11U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145687
On 21 Jul 2020 at 15:00:28 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <hno0mdFktvqU1@mid.individual.net>, 
> thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid says...
>> 
>> No, but it's Individual, like you.
>> 
> 
> Is that a compliment to Jamie?

Grin!

	Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
Sent from my Sinclair ZX-81

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#145692

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-21 15:35 +0000
Message-ID<hnog9jFoid2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145687
On 21 Jul 2020 at 15:00:28 BST, "jeremy" <jeremy0505@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <hno0mdFktvqU1@mid.individual.net>, 
> thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid says...
>> 
>> No, but it's Individual, like you.
>> 
> 
> Is that a compliment to Jamie?

But of course!
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TimH
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#145693

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-21 15:37 +0000
Message-ID<hnogdhFoid2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145673
On 21 Jul 2020 at 08:47:16 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>> everything
>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem, not
> Usenapp's.

Today's update fixes 'some serious TCP socket issues', so maybe...
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TimH
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#145700

FromTimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
Date2020-07-21 18:31 +0000
Message-ID<hnoqjuFqjafU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#145693
On 21 Jul 2020 at 16:37:21 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 21 Jul 2020 at 08:47:16 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular because
>>> Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can download
>>> everything
>>> in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone else seeing this?
>> 
>> Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem, not
>> Usenapp's.
> 
> Today's update fixes 'some serious TCP socket issues', so maybe...

Whether it's one of today's two updates, or some unseen change at my end,
we're now at MacSOUP speeds. Yippee!
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TimH
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#145922

Fromthnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid (Tim Hodgson)
Date2020-07-28 10:25 +0100
Message-ID<1ou8y5d.ry3phu1t23relN%thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
In reply to#145700
TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 21 Jul 2020 at 16:37:21 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 21 Jul 2020 at 08:47:16 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
> >wrote:
> > 
> >> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
> >>wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular
> >>> because Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can
> >>> download everything in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone
> >>> else seeing this?
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem,
> >> not Usenapp's.
> > 
> > Today's update fixes 'some serious TCP socket issues', so maybe...
> 
> Whether it's one of today's two updates, or some unseen change at my end,
> we're now at MacSOUP speeds. Yippee!

Oh no we're not... once more it keeps getting stuck on server
connection. This is individual.net, and meanwhile MacSOUP's having no
problem. No one else seeing this?
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TimH
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#145923

FromRay <amos-jones@outlook.com>
Date2020-07-28 09:33 +0000
Message-ID<rforcn$mvf$1@amos-jones.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#145922
On 28 Jul 2020 at 10:25:32 BST, "Tim Hodgson" <Tim Hodgson> wrote:

> TimH <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 21 Jul 2020 at 16:37:21 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 21 Jul 2020 at 08:47:16 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 20 Jul 2020 at 21:42:10 BST, "TimH" <thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, it's taking a while to wean myself off MacSOUP, in particular
>>>>> because Usenapp is taking forever to download new articles - I can
>>>>> download everything in MacSOUP before Usenapp's even connected. Anyone
>>>>> else seeing this?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the various responses. Definitely appears to be my problem,
>>>> not Usenapp's.
>>> 
>>> Today's update fixes 'some serious TCP socket issues', so maybe...
>> 
>> Whether it's one of today's two updates, or some unseen change at my end,
>> we're now at MacSOUP speeds. Yippee!
> 
> Oh no we're not... once more it keeps getting stuck on server
> connection. This is individual.net, and meanwhile MacSOUP's having no
> problem. No one else seeing this?

Can't comment on individual.net but it's not happening here with eternal
september.
Try in the Usenapp forums, Andre is quick to respond.
And you might get responses from others with the same issue.

-- 
We walk in the footsteps of time

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#145927

FromIan McCall <ian@eruvia.org>
Date2020-07-28 12:16 +0100
Message-ID<0001HW.24D04082000A84B47000054E838F@news.individual.net>
In reply to#145922
On 28 Jul 2020, Tim Hodgson wrote
(in article<1ou8y5d.ry3phu1t23relN%thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid>):

> Oh no we're not... once more it keeps getting stuck on server
> connection. This is individual.net, and meanwhile MacSOUP's having no
> problem. No one else seeing this?

I don’t use Usenapp or MacSoup, but I -do- notice Hogwasher can get stuck 
on connections sometimes. Also individual.net. Usually happens on first 
connection, I then have to manually stop it and try again after which it is 
reliable.

Cheers,
Ian

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