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  Various Apple Updates alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B) - 2025-07-29 20:40 +0000
    Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-07-29 20:49 +0000
    Re: Various Apple Updates Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> - 2025-07-31 09:55 +0000
      Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-07-31 10:05 +0000
        Re: Various Apple Updates Bruce <07.013@scorecrow.com> - 2025-07-31 23:33 +0100
          Re: Various Apple Updates Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-01 06:59 +0200
            Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-01 09:56 +0100
              Re: Various Apple Updates Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 09:31 +0000
                Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-01 10:08 +0000
                  Re: Various Apple Updates snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-01 13:55 +0100
                    Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-01 13:02 +0000
                      Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-01 13:12 +0000
                        Re: Various Apple Updates snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-01 14:20 +0100
                          Re: Various Apple Updates Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-01 13:41 +0000
                      Re: Various Apple Updates snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-01 14:19 +0100
                        Re: Various Apple Updates Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-01 15:39 +0200
                      Re: Various Apple Updates Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-01 15:38 +0200
                  Re: Various Apple Updates Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-01 15:36 +0200
                Re: Various Apple Updates Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2025-08-01 19:53 +0000

#181504 — Various Apple Updates

Including macOS 15.6.

<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181505

On 2025-07-29, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Including macOS 15.6.
>
><https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>

Sonoma and Ventura too.

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181511

On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:

> Including macOS 15.6.
> 
> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>

I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
after I'd updtaed to 15.5.

OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!

J.

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#181514

On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
> 
>> Including macOS 15.6.
>> 
>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
> 
> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
> 
> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!

Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:

<https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181524

On 31/07/2025 11:05, Alan B wrote:
> On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
>>
>>> Including macOS 15.6.
>>>
>>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
>>
>> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
>> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
>> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
>>
>> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
>> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!
> 
> Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:
> 
> <https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>

FWIW, I've updated my MacMini M4 which went smoothly and not noticed any 
difference.

-- 
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, England

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#181527

On 01.08.2025 00:33, Bruce wrote:
> On 31/07/2025 11:05, Alan B wrote:
>> On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Including macOS 15.6.
>>>>
>>>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
>>>
>>> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
>>> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
>>> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
>>>
>>> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
>>> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!
>>
>> Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:
>>
>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>
> 
> FWIW, I've updated my MacMini M4 which went smoothly and not noticed any
> difference.

Same here with my mini M2pro, my Intel MacBook Pro and my wife's MBAir M2.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#181529

On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 06:59:18 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

>On 01.08.2025 00:33, Bruce wrote:
>> On 31/07/2025 11:05, Alan B wrote:
>>> On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Including macOS 15.6.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
>>>>
>>>> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
>>>> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
>>>> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
>>>> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!
>>>
>>> Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:
>>>
>>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>
>> 
>> FWIW, I've updated my MacMini M4 which went smoothly and not noticed any
>> difference.
>
>Same here with my mini M2pro, my Intel MacBook Pro and my wife's MBAir M2.

There's a list of security updates here:

 <https://support.apple.com/en-us/124149>

I guess Apple are trying to cear up as many before Tahoe?

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181530

On 1 Aug 2025 at 9:56:05 AM GMT+1, "Alan B"
<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 06:59:18 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 01.08.2025 00:33, Bruce wrote:
>>> On 31/07/2025 11:05, Alan B wrote:
>>>> On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Including macOS 15.6.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
>>>>> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
>>>>> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
>>>>> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!
>>>> 
>>>> Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I've updated my MacMini M4 which went smoothly and not noticed any
>>> difference.
>> 
>> Same here with my mini M2pro, my Intel MacBook Pro and my wife's MBAir M2.
> 
> There's a list of security updates here:
> 
>  <https://support.apple.com/en-us/124149>
> 
> I guess Apple are trying to cear up as many before Tahoe?

New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night (I had
selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When I started the
laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud... Do updates these days
sign you out before they install?

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#181531

Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2025 at 9:56:05 AM GMT+1, "Alan B"
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 06:59:18 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01.08.2025 00:33, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On 31/07/2025 11:05, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Including macOS 15.6.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
>>>>>> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
>>>>>> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
>>>>>> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, I've updated my MacMini M4 which went smoothly and not noticed any
>>>> difference.
>>> 
>>> Same here with my mini M2pro, my Intel MacBook Pro and my wife's MBAir M2.
>> 
>> There's a list of security updates here:
>> 
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/124149>
>> 
>> I guess Apple are trying to cear up as many before Tahoe?
> 
> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night (I had
> selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When I started the
> laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud... Do updates these days
> sign you out before they install?

Yes I’m signed out as part of an any update. It’s a standard part of the
update process.

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181532

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> > New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night
> > (I had selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When
> > I started the laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud...
> > Do updates these days sign you out before they install?
> 
> Yes I'm signed out as part of an any update. It's a standard part of
> the update process.

That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud 
when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
 
-- 
^Ï^.        Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#181533

On 1 Aug 2025 at 13:55:56 BST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>>> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night
>>> (I had selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When
>>> I started the laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud...
>>> Do updates these days sign you out before they install?
>> 
>> Yes I'm signed out as part of an any update. It's a standard part of
>> the update process.
> 
> That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
> when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6

That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181534

On 2025-08-01, Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2025 at 13:55:56 BST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
>
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night
>>>> (I had selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When
>>>> I started the laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud...
>>>> Do updates these days sign you out before they install?
>>> 
>>> Yes I'm signed out as part of an any update. It's a standard part of
>>> the update process.
>> 
>> That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
>> when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
>
> That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?

Do you have auto login turned on? I have FileVault enabled but this 
option prevents auto login. See Sys Prefs -> Users & Groups.

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181536

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
[...]
> >> That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
> >> when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
> >
> > That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?
> 
> Do you have auto login turned on? I have FileVault enabled but this 
> option prevents auto login. See Sys Prefs -> Users & Groups.

No auto-login.  See adjacent post.

-- 
^Ï^.        Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#181540

On 1 Aug 2025 at 14:20:27 BST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>>>> That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
>>>> when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
>>> 
>>> That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?
>> 
>> Do you have auto login turned on? I have FileVault enabled but this
>> option prevents auto login. See Sys Prefs -> Users & Groups.
> 
> No auto-login.  See adjacent post.

Actually I've probably misunderstood Mark's comments as he was specifically
talking about iCloud. Anyway not worth losing any sleep over it!

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#181535

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 1 Aug 2025 at 13:55:56 BST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
> 
> > Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night
> >>> (I had selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When
> >>> I started the laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud...
> >>> Do updates these days sign you out before they install?
> >>>
> >>> 
> >> Yes I'm signed out as part of an any update. It's a standard part of
> >> the update process.
> >>
> >
> > That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
> > when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
> >
>
> That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?
>

Updating logs me out of the user account but when I log back in after
updating, I'm still signed into iCloud.  When logging out normally 
I do have it set to remember open windows when logging back in, 
maybe that makes a difference.

-- 
^Ï^.        Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS        My pet rock Gordon just is.

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#181539

On 01.08.2025 15:19, Sn!pe wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 1 Aug 2025 at 13:55:56 BST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night
>>>>> (I had selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When
>>>>> I started the laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud...
>>>>> Do updates these days sign you out before they install?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes I'm signed out as part of an any update. It's a standard part of
>>>> the update process.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
>>> when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
>>>
>>
>> That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?
>>
> 
> Updating logs me out of the user account but when I log back in after
> updating, I'm still signed into iCloud.  When logging out normally
> I do have it set to remember open windows when logging back in,
> maybe that makes a difference.

I'm always logged back into the iCloud and I do not use this feature.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#181538

On 01.08.2025 15:02, Alan B wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2025 at 13:55:56 BST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:
> 
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night
>>>> (I had selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When
>>>> I started the laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud...
>>>> Do updates these days sign you out before they install?
>>>
>>> Yes I'm signed out as part of an any update. It's a standard part of
>>> the update process.
>>
>> That doesn't happen here, my MBP M1 Max stays signed in to iCloud
>> when I update it.    macOS Sequoia 15.6
> 
> That's odd. I thought anything requiring a restart logged you out?

Logging out of the machine but not the machine out of iCloud. During the 
restart the machine is automatically logged back into the iCloud.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#181537

On 01.08.2025 12:08, Alan B wrote:
> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night (I had
>> selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When I started the
>> laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud... Do updates these days
>> sign you out before they install?
> 
> Yes I’m signed out as part of an any update. It’s a standard part of the
> update process.

Absolutely not. In the last 20 years I was never ever signed out of 
iCloud during an update or upgrade.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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#181543

On 1 Aug 2025 at 10:31:48 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1 Aug 2025 at 9:56:05 AM GMT+1, "Alan B"
> <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 06:59:18 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01.08.2025 00:33, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On 31/07/2025 11:05, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> On 31 Jul 2025 at 10:55:51 BST, "Another John" <lalaw44@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Jul 2025 at 21:40:29 BST, "Alan B" <Alan B> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Including macOS 15.6.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-releases-macos-sequoia-15-6.2462415/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm tempted to update straight away: it might possibly fix my Apple Mail <->
>>>>>> Gmal problems, which I still have not fathomed out.  That started shortly
>>>>>> after I'd updtaed to 15.5.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OTOH, it might ontroduce new bugs, while my Mail problem drifts slowly astern
>>>>>> in the history of Apple OS's, leaving me marooned!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your guess is as good as mine, as they say! Here's a more professional view:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2025/07/29/what-has-changed-in-macos-sequoia-15-6/>
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, I've updated my MacMini M4 which went smoothly and not noticed any
>>>> difference.
>>> 
>>> Same here with my mini M2pro, my Intel MacBook Pro and my wife's MBAir M2.
>> 
>> There's a list of security updates here:
>> 
>>  <https://support.apple.com/en-us/124149>
>> 
>> I guess Apple are trying to cear up as many before Tahoe?
> 
> New to Sequoia here... Looks like my update was installed last night (I had
> selected 'Install Tonight' but had forgotten all about it). When I started the
> laptop this morning it asked me to sign into iCloud... Do updates these days
> sign you out before they install?

Not usually, but you may have hit a "sign in again and see the updated
usage agreement and hit ok" thing? Or just a timeout, which appear to
exist.

    Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
"The more wrong a guy gets, the louder he yells at the person
trying to help him. Which, inevitably, makes him even
wronger. But less helped."
                                          -- Merlin Mann

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