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Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter

Started bybks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
First post2025-04-30 08:38 -0400
Last post2025-04-30 11:49 -0400
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  Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 08:38 -0400
    Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 13:52 +0000
      Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-30 11:52 -0400
      Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-04-30 18:00 +0000
      Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 21:32 +0000
        Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 21:45 +0000
          Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-01 11:28 -0400
            Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-01 22:40 +0000
        Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-01 01:50 +0000
          Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-02 17:42 +0000
            Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 03:26 -0400
              Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 14:40 +0000
                Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-04 11:44 -0400
                Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-04 17:53 +0000
                  Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-06 02:41 +0000
                    Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-09 13:02 +0000
                      Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-09 11:30 -0400
                        Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 18:57 -0400
                          Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-15 14:52 +0000
                            Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-15 18:35 +0000
                              Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 18:38 -0400
                                Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-02 16:18 +0000
                      Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 13:10 -0400
                        Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-09 18:18 +0000
      Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 10:56 -0400
    Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-30 11:49 -0400

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#1183863 — Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-30 08:38 -0400
SubjectTrump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter
Message-ID<vut5kc$988$1@panix3.panix.com>
Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
 | 
 | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
 | Real in Testy Interview
 | 
 | The president's sit-down with ABC News spun off the rails
 | when he falsely claimed that the man the administration
 | wrongly deported to El Salvador has "MS-13" on his knuckles
 | ... 
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-insists-abrego-garcia-pic-real-abc-news-interview-1235328225/>

Transcript of the interview:
<https://abcnews.go.com/US/full-transcript-trumps-exclusive-100-days-broadcast-interview/story?id=121291672>

    --bks

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#1183876

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-30 13:52 +0000
Message-ID<vut9vj$cib$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1183863
>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
> | 
> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
> | Real in Testy Interview

Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
 | 
 | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
 | ...
<https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114427089568235019>

    --bks

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#1183889

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-04-30 11:52 -0400
Message-ID<vutgvl$hdd9$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1183876
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>> | 
>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>> | Real in Testy Interview
>
> Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
> | 
> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
> | ...
> <https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114427089568235019>

    <https://www.alamy.com/gaslighting-and-conning-meter-that-is-hitting-a-full-scale-showing-a-very-high-level-of-gaslighting-image646941816.html>

-- 
There's no such thing as pure pleasure; some anxiety always goes with it.

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#1183906

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-04-30 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB2D18473186C2629555@185.151.15.190>
In reply to#1183876
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vut9vj$cib$2
@reader1.panix.com:

>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>> | 
>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>> | Real in Testy Interview
> 
> Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
> | 
> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
> | ...
> <https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114427089568235019>
> 
>     --bks


   
When the stock market jumps under Biden Trump takes credit. 

When the stock market crashes under Trump he blames Biden.

And the Trumpers here actually beliive it!

This is a cult. There is no other way to explain it. 





Trump attempts to take credit for stock 
market record highs under Biden
JAN 29 2024

"THIS IS THE TRUMP STOCK MARKET," Trump 
wrote in an all-caps Truth Social post, 
"BECAUSE MY POLLS AGAINST BIDEN ARE SO 
GOOD THAT INVESTORS ARE PROJECTING THAT 
I WILL WIN, AND THAT WILL DRIVE THE 
MARKET UP."

Trump cited no evidence to back up the 
claim that investors are buying into the 
stock market now in anticipation that the 
Republican ex-president will beat the 
Democratic incumbent in an election nearly 
10 months away.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/29/trump-attempts-to-take-credit-for-stock-
market-record-highs-under-biden.html

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#1183925

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-30 21:32 +0000
Message-ID<vuu4tg$np4$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1183876
>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>> | 
>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>> | Real in Testy Interview

>Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
> | 
> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's

Perfectly normal Trump ass-kissing cabinet meeting:
 | 
 | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
 | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
 | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
 | President Trump from all of us."
 | 
 | [12-second Fox News video at URL]
 | ...
<https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lo2c3ubg332f>

    --bks

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#1183926

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-30 21:45 +0000
Message-ID<vuu5mf$g2j$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1183925
>>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>>> | Real in Testy Interview

MS-13 Pam Bondi!
<https://bsky.app/profile/iglesiasplata.bsky.social/post/3lo2jvmzhac2w>

    --bks

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#1184008

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-05-01 11:28 -0400
Message-ID<vv03vr$2sfu3$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1183926
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

>>>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>>>> | Real in Testy Interview
>
> MS-13 Pam Bondi!
> <https://bsky.app/profile/iglesiasplata.bsky.social/post/3lo2jvmzhac2w>

I think that's actually Lyin' Leavitt.

Guy did a good job making the tatts look real.

Also at that URL is Bondi yammering insanely about Trump saving "285 million
lives".

-- 
Bozos, please inflate your shoes.  Please remain seated until the ride has come
to a complete stop.  Follow the yellow rubber line. Remember the yellow line is
for your protection.

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#1184042

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-05-01 22:40 +0000
Message-ID<vv0t9r$6jj$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1184008
 | 
 | [Fox News host Bret] Baier: "The economy shrank. First time
 | in 3 years. People are pointing to the tariff policy..."
 | 
 | [VP] JD Vance: "This is Joe Biden's economy."
 | 
 | [32-second Fox News video at URL]
 |
<https://bsky.app/profile/rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social/post/3lo5elvsdts2h>

    --bks

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#1183943

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-05-01 01:50 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB2D1D4325D191629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#1183925
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vuu4tg$np4$2
@reader1.panix.com:

>>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>>> | 
>>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>>> | Real in Testy Interview
> 
>>Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
>> | 
>> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
> 
> Perfectly normal Trump ass-kissing cabinet meeting:
> | 
> | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
> | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
> | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
> | President Trump from all of us."


     Except the Capitol Police, who he wants
to prosecute doing their jobs on Jan 6.



> | 
> | [12-second Fox News video at URL]
> | ...
> <https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lo2c3ubg332f>
> 
>     --bks

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#1184145

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-05-02 17:42 +0000
Message-ID<vv306a$p71$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1183943
>> | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
>> | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
>> | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
>> | President Trump from all of us."

Ann Coulter joins the Resistance:
 | 
 | Would it be possible to have a cabinet meeting without the
 | Kim Jong il-style tributes?
 | 
<https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/1917624573027127795>

    --bks

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#1184335

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-04 03:26 -0400
Message-ID<gh5e1kl3mnjgo00coqqllhkbuc5tpvp9r5@4ax.com>
In reply to#1184145
On Fri, 2 May 2025 17:42:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>> | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
>>> | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
>>> | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
>>> | President Trump from all of us."
>
>Ann Coulter joins the Resistance:
> | 
> | Would it be possible to have a cabinet meeting without the
> | Kim Jong il-style tributes?
> | 
><https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/1917624573027127795>
>
>    --bks

Not only did Ukraine sympathizers in Russia execute a high ranking
Russian military official, they videoed and posted it.
<https://x.com/Mylovanov/status/1915844988308431325>

--  
MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

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#1184350

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-05-04 14:40 +0000
Message-ID<vv7u9o$ktm$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1184335
You can't make this shit up:
 | 
 | President Trump says 'good parts' of economy are his and
 | 'bad parts are the Biden economy'
 | ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/president-trump-says-good-parts-of-economy-are-his-and-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy-238867525974>

    --bks

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#1184362

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-05-04 11:44 -0400
Message-ID<vv821a$29efv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1184350
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> You can't make this shit up:
> | 
> | President Trump says 'good parts' of economy are his and
> | 'bad parts are the Biden economy'
> | ...
> <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/president-trump-says-good-parts-of-economy-are-his-and-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy-238867525974>

Did Welker laugh in his face? (Not gonna watch and listen to that
gaslighting jackass).

-- 
Half Moon tonight.  (At least it's better than no Moon at all.)

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#1184372

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-05-04 17:53 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB2D58351C9596629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#1184350
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:vv7u9o$ktm$1@reader1.panix.com: 

> You can't make this shit up:
> | 
> | President Trump says 'good parts' of economy are his and
> | 'bad parts are the Biden economy'
> | ...
> <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/president-trump-says-good
> -parts-of-economy-are-his-and-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy-238867525
> 974> 
> 
>     --bks



1) Trump was misquoted

2) Trump was just joking

3) Prove Trump wrong

4) Why is the media so focused on Trump

5) Biden Biden Biden

6) Her emails

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#1184573

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-05-06 02:41 +0000
Message-ID<vvbsrt$i4t$6@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1184372
 | 
 | President Trump said he had "nothing to do with" an image
 | depicting him as the pope that *was posted on his and the
 | White House's social media accounts*, drawing criticism from
 | Catholics around the globe. Mr. Trump, who previously told
 | reporters that he was his own "No. 1" choice to be the next
 | pope, insisted on Monday, "The Catholics loved it."
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/05/us/trump-news#trump-venezuela-gang-ties-spy-memo>
(volatile URL)

    --bks

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#1184994

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-05-09 13:02 +0000
Message-ID<vvkuca$a9g$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1184573
 | 
 | President Trump called the slowdown at U.S. ports in the
 | wake of his tariffs on China going into effect a "good
 | thing."
 | ... 
<https://www.axios.com/2025/05/08/trump-tariffs-china-ports-slowdown>

    --bks

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#1185009

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-05-09 11:30 -0400
Message-ID<vvl73g$2sd84$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1184994
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> | President Trump called the slowdown at U.S. ports in the
> | wake of his tariffs on China going into effect a "good
> | thing."
> | ... 
> <https://www.axios.com/2025/05/08/trump-tariffs-china-ports-slowdown>

I would not call this "gaslighting". I would call it "Trump has no clue."

    Trump asserted that "China was making over a trillion," without it being
    immediately clear what he was referring to.

    "From 500 billion to 1.1 trillion… frankly if we didn't do business we
    would've been better off," he said.

    China says it sent around 15% of its exports, worth $525 billion, to the
    U.S. last year — about 3x what flowed in the opposite direction. (U.S. data
    differs on the total value by nearly $100 billion, but the ratios are about
    the same.)

    "We'd like to see China opened up so we can compete in China and give
    people something that they've never had – access to something that would be
    great for the world, great for the businesses, and great for friendship,"
    Trump said.

-- 
The default Magic Word, "Abracadabra", actually is a corruption of the
Hebrew phrase "ha-Bracha dab'ra" which means "pronounce the blessing".

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#1185221

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-10 18:57 -0400
Message-ID<6cmv1k9bup0me9j7hp78m23khfnpgpabsj@4ax.com>
In reply to#1185009
On Fri, 9 May 2025 11:30:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> | President Trump called the slowdown at U.S. ports in the
>> | wake of his tariffs on China going into effect a "good
>> | thing."
>> | ... 
>> <https://www.axios.com/2025/05/08/trump-tariffs-china-ports-slowdown>
>
>I would not call this "gaslighting". I would call it "Trump has no clue."
>
>    Trump asserted that "China was making over a trillion," without it being
>    immediately clear what he was referring to.
>
>    "From 500 billion to 1.1 trillion… frankly if we didn't do business we
>    would've been better off," he said.

... said the man who exports all his manufacturing, mostly to China.

>    China says it sent around 15% of its exports, worth $525 billion, to the
>    U.S. last year — about 3x what flowed in the opposite direction. (U.S. data
>    differs on the total value by nearly $100 billion, but the ratios are about
>    the same.)
>
>    "We'd like to see China opened up so we can compete in China and give
>    people something that they've never had – access to something that would be
>    great for the world, great for the businesses, and great for friendship,"
>    Trump said.

Then we need background trade negotiations to get our intellectual
property payments back.  Not high drama and war.

-- 
If gang affiliation is illegal, why isn't every 
Proud Boy and Klansman sent to El Salvador?

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#1185981

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-05-15 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<1004v30$4qe$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1185221
 | 
 | This is absolutely incredible -- Kristi Noem repeatedly
 | refuses to acknowledge that Trump brandished an doctored
 | image of Abrego Garcia's tattoos, prompting Eric Swalwell
 | to have a staffer of his brandish an image of them right in
 | her face.
 |
 | [174-second video at URL]
 |
<https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lp5c4uv7l22l>

    --bks

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#1186000

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-05-15 18:35 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB2E08A4941FB6629555@185.151.15.190>
In reply to#1185981
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:1004v30$4qe$2@reader1.panix.com: 

> | 
> | This is absolutely incredible -- Kristi Noem repeatedly
> | refuses to acknowledge that Trump brandished an doctored
> | image of Abrego Garcia's tattoos, prompting Eric Swalwell
> | to have a staffer of his brandish an image of them right in
> | her face.
> |
> | [174-second video at URL]
> |
> <https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lp5c4u
> v7l22l> 
> 
>     --bks
> 


     "I see four lights!"

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