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Trump's State Terrorism

Started bybks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
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  Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-15 19:10 -0400
    Re: Trump's State Terrorism Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2025-04-16 00:16 +0000
      Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 00:42 +0000
        Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 16:28 +0000
          Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 20:07 +0000
            Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 20:32 +0000
            Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 20:55 +0000
              Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-17 13:56 +0000
                Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-17 14:10 +0000
                  Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-17 14:50 +0000
                    Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-17 19:56 +0000
                      Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-17 20:16 +0000
                        Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-18 19:25 +0000
                          Re: Trump's State Terrorism J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-04-18 12:32 -0700
                          Re: Trump's State Terrorism Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 02:16 -0400
                            Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-29 18:58 +0000
                              Re: Trump's State Terrorism Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-29 16:43 -0700
                              Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-30 07:38 -0400
                                Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 15:00 +0000
                                  Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-01 07:13 -0400
                                    Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 11:32 +0000
                                      Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 21:29 +0000
                                        Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-05 07:26 -0400
                                          Re: Trump's State Terrorism Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-05 07:37 -0700
                                            Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-06 02:46 +0000
                                          Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-06 07:31 -0400
                                            Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-07 11:18 +0000
                                              Re: Trump's State Terrorism Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-07 08:25 -0400
                                                Re: Trump's State Terrorism Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:15 -0400
                                              Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-08 07:05 -0400
                                                Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-09 07:17 -0400
                                                  Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-17 15:06 +0000
                                                    Re: Trump's State Terrorism Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-17 12:51 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-17 23:19 +0000
                                                        Re: Trump's State Terrorism Peter Kent Navarro <dagosodomite@trump.sodom> - 2025-05-17 23:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-18 09:38 -0400
                                                    Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-18 09:37 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump's State Terrorism NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-19 07:01 -0400
                                          Re: Trump's State Terrorism c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-17 22:53 -0400
                                            Re: Trump's State Terrorism Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-17 22:26 -0700
                                              Re: Trump's State Terrorism Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-19 07:04 -0400
                                                Re: Trump's State Terrorism bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-21 13:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Trump's State Terrorism Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-21 13:40 +0000
                                            Re: Trump's State Terrorism Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-19 07:03 -0400
                                        Re: Trump's State Terrorism Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-05 08:41 -0400

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#1181584 — Trump's State Terrorism

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-15 19:10 -0400
SubjectTrump's State Terrorism
Message-ID<vtmp0h$qjk$1@panix3.panix.com>
 | 
 | Yesterday the president defied a Supreme Court ruling to
 | return a man who was mistakenly sent to a gulag in another
 | country, celebrated the suffering of this innocent person,
 | and spoke of sending Americans to foreign concentration
 | camps.
 | 
 | This is the beginning of an American policy of state
 | terror, and it has to be identified as such to be stopped.
 | ...
<https://snyder.substack.com/p/state-terror>

    --bks

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#1181591

FromPluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com>
Date2025-04-16 00:16 +0000
Message-ID<vtmss0$1sm8p$2@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#1181584
> | 
> | Yesterday the president defied a Supreme Court ruling to
> | return a man who was mistakenly sent to a gulag in another
> | country, celebrated the suffering of this innocent person,
> | and spoke of sending Americans to foreign concentration
> | camps.
> | 
> | This is the beginning of an American policy of state
> | terror, and it has to be identified as such to be stopped.
> | ...
><https://snyder.substack.com/p/state-terror>
>
>    --bks
>
>

Many in MAGA assert that the SCOTUS has no authority due to having no 
credibility because one of them is in a DEI mixed race marriage that's 
unconstitutional.

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#1181594

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 00:42 +0000
Message-ID<vtmuea$i48$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181591
>> | Yesterday the president defied a Supreme Court ruling to
>> | return a man who was mistakenly sent to a gulag in another
>> | country, celebrated the suffering of this innocent person,
>> | and spoke of sending Americans to foreign concentration
>> | camps.
>> | 
>> | This is the beginning of an American policy of state
>> | terror, and it has to be identified as such to be stopped.

 | 
 | Two immigration lawyers in Massachusetts who are U.S.
 | citizens have said they received notices from the U.S.
 | Department of Homeland Security telling them that it's time
 | to leave the United States.
 | 
 | Boston immigration lawyer Nicole Micheroni, who was born
 | and raised in Massachusetts, received a notice Friday
 | telling her that she was paroled into the United States for
 | a limited period, and that the government was exercising
 | its discretion to revoke parole.
 | 
 | WCVB-TV and NBC Boston are among the publications with
 | stories.
 | 
 | "Do not attempt to remain in the United States. The federal
 | government will find you," the letter said. "Please depart
 | the United States immediately."
 | ...
<https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/at-least-2-immigration-lawyers-in-massachusetts-received-notices-to-self-deport>

    --bks

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#1181693

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 16:28 +0000
Message-ID<vtolrh$7je$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181594
 | 
 | Judge Boasberg to launch contempt proceedings for Trump
 | administration
 | 
 | Federal judge will weigh whether the administration defied
 | his order not to remove Venezuelan migrants from the
 | country based on the wartime Alien Enemies Act
 | ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/16/boasberg-trump-contempt-deportations-alien-enemies-planes/>

    --bks

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#1181731

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 20:07 +0000
Message-ID<vtp2l9$lv8$4@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181693
> | Judge Boasberg to launch contempt proceedings for Trump
> | administration

 | 
 | In a blistering ruling, a federal judge blocked a new
 | executive order from President Donald Trump punishing a
 | prominent law firm that successfully sued Fox News for
 | promoting false claims of election fraud. 
 | 
 | Loren L. AliKhan, speaking from the bench in her
 | Washington, D.C., courtroom Tuesday, said Trump's order
 | targeting the law firm Susman Godfrey was part of a
 | "personal vendetta." 
 | ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/federal-judge-calls-trumps-order-targeting-prominent-law-firm-shocking-rcna200961?taid=67fffe6f16f5bc00014b72c4>

    --bks

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#1181735

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 20:32 +0000
Message-ID<vtp44b$8l9$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181731
 | 
 | A former top Trump administration official targeted with a
 | federal investigation by President Trump said he would
 | fight back against what he called an unprecedented campaign
 | by the government to punish dissent.
 | 
 | Chris Krebs, one of Trump's top cybersecurity officials in
 | his first term, will resign from a leading security firm to
 | more freely challenge the White House, he said. He joins a
 | small but growing list of universities and law firms
 | seeking to push back on Trump's efforts to use the office
 | of the president to attack critics and opponents. 
 | ...
<https://electionlawblog.org/?p=149471>

    --bks

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#1181741

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 20:55 +0000
Message-ID<vtp5fn$qkj$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181731
>> | Judge Boasberg to launch contempt proceedings for Trump
>> | administration

Criminal contempt:
<https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.81.0_2.pdf>

    --bks

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#1181834

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-17 13:56 +0000
Message-ID<vtr1b7$7ts$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181741
Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) joins the Resistance:
 | ...
 | "We are all afraid," Murkowski said, taking a long pause.
 | "It's quite a statement. But we are in a time and a place
 | where I certainly have not been here before. And I'll tell
 | ya, I'm oftentimes very anxious myself about using my
 | voice, because retaliation is real. And that's not right."
 | ...
<https://www.adn.com/politics/2025/04/14/we-are-all-afraid-speaking-to-alaska-nonprofit-leaders-murkowski-gets-candid-on-upheaval-in-federal-government/>

    --bks

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#1181836

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-17 14:10 +0000
Message-ID<vtr24d$dka$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181834
 | ... 
 | On Tuesday, Donald Trump suggested, "Perhaps Harvard should
 | lose its Tax Exempt Status and be Taxed as a Political
 | Entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and
 | terrorist inspired/supporting 'Sickness?'"
 | 
 | On Wednesday, CNN reported that the Internal Revenue
 | Service is making plans to rescind Harvard's tax-exempt
 | status, per Trump's instruction.
 | 
 | Also on Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security sent
 | Harvard a letter threatening to block foreign students who
 | might wish to attend Harvard from obtaining student visas,
 | unless Harvard submits information on all of its
 | international students' disciplinary records and possible
 | participation in political protests.
 | 
 | So the Trump administration's attack against Harvard
 | continues and intensifies. Its assault on private
 | institutions that remain beyond their control, on the
 | institutions of civil society that retain their
 | independence, continues and intensifies.
 | ...
<https://www.thebulwark.com/p/harvard-is-fighting-back-so-can-we-irs-tax-exempt-dhs-foreign-students>

    --bks

And the "libertarian" dogs don't bark.

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#1181841

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-17 14:50 +0000
Message-ID<vtr4fi$169$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181836
 | 
 | A doctor born in the United States says she received an
 | email from federal immigration authorities demanding that
 | she leave the country immediately.
 | 
 | Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told
 | NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a
 | letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling
 | her, "It is time for you to leave the United States."
 | ...
 | But Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S.
 | citizen.
 | ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-email-immigration-leave-country-rcna201698?taid=6801097d07fad10001c18175>

    --bks

And the "libertarian" dogs don't bark.

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#1181905

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-17 19:56 +0000
Message-ID<vtrme9$5mi$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181841
Federal Appeals Judge joins the Resistance:
 | ...
 | It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of
 | the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The
 | government is asserting a right to stash away residents of
 | this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of
 | due process that is the foundation of our constitutional
 | order.
 | ...
<https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf>

    --bks

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#1181910

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-17 20:16 +0000
Message-ID<vtrni3$9pj$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181905
>Federal Appeals Judge joins the Resistance:
> | ...
> | It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of
> | the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The
> | government is asserting a right to stash away residents of
> | this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of
> | due process that is the foundation of our constitutional
> | order.
> | ...
><https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400/gov.uscourts.ca4.178400.8.0.pdf>

A conservative Reagan judge, BTW.

    --bks

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#1182059

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-18 19:25 +0000
Message-ID<vtu8uv$frf$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181910
 | 
 | The emergency is here.
 | 
 | The crisis is now. It is not six months away. It is not
 | another Supreme Court ruling away from happening. It's
 | happening now.
 | 
 | Perhaps not to you, not yet. But to others. Real people. We
 | know their names. We know their stories.
 | 
 | The president of the United States is disappearing people
 | to a Salvadoran prison for terrorists. A prison known by
 | its initials -- CECOT. A prison built for disappearance. A
 | prison where there is no education or remediation or
 | recreation, because it is a prison that does not intend to
 | release its inhabitants back out into the world. It is a
 | prison where the only way out, in the words of El
 | Salvador's so-called justice minister, is a coffin.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-asha-rangappa.html>

    --bks

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#1182061

FromJ Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
Date2025-04-18 12:32 -0700
Message-ID<vtu9ca$3lv4i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1182059
On 4/18/2025 12:25 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>   |
>   | The emergency is here.
>   |
>   | The crisis is now. It is not six months away. It is not
>   | another Supreme Court ruling away from happening. It's
>   | happening now.
>   |
>   | Perhaps not to you, not yet. But to others. Real people. We
>   | know their names. We know their stories.
>   |
>   | The president of the United States is disappearing people
>   | to a Salvadoran prison for terrorists. A prison known by
>   | its initials -- CECOT. A prison built for disappearance. A
>   | prison where there is no education or remediation or
>   | recreation, because it is a prison that does not intend to
>   | release its inhabitants back out into the world. It is a
>   | prison where the only way out, in the words of El
>   | Salvador's so-called justice minister, is a coffin.
>   | ...
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-asha-rangappa.html>
> 
Trump's disappearing of citizens is already underway. These are not citizens who 
have committed any crimes. They are citizens whom Trump dislikes for whatever 
demented illegal reason he has.

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#1182132

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-19 02:16 -0400
Message-ID<itf60k1rj6v6h44qssg3d33qcf0c24j9fq@4ax.com>
In reply to#1182059
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 19:25:19 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | The emergency is here.
> | 
> | The crisis is now. It is not six months away. It is not
> | another Supreme Court ruling away from happening. It's
> | happening now.
> | 
> | Perhaps not to you, not yet. But to others. Real people. We
> | know their names. We know their stories.
> | 
> | The president of the United States is disappearing people
> | to a Salvadoran prison for terrorists. A prison known by
> | its initials -- CECOT. A prison built for disappearance. A
> | prison where there is no education or remediation or
> | recreation, because it is a prison that does not intend to
> | release its inhabitants back out into the world. It is a
> | prison where the only way out, in the words of El
> | Salvador's so-called justice minister, is a coffin.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-asha-rangappa.html>
>
>    --bks

As long as he only does it to them little brown buggers.

-- 
MAGA doesn't understand that everybody is your friend.
They think everybody is your enemy.
It's a completely different way of thinking.

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#1183748

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-29 18:58 +0000
Message-ID<vur7gf$b50$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1182132
 | 
 | 'We're citizens!': Oklahoma City family traumatized after
 | ICE raids home, but they weren't suspects 
 | ...
<https://kfor.com/news/local/were-citizens-oklahoma-city-family-traumatized-after-ice-raids-home-but-they-werent-suspects/>

    --bks

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#1183773

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-04-29 16:43 -0700
Message-ID<vuro7g$2u1ej$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1183748
On 29/4/25 11:58, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>   |
>   | 'We're citizens!': Oklahoma City family traumatized after
>   | ICE raids home, but they weren't suspects
>   | ...
> <https://kfor.com/news/local/were-citizens-oklahoma-city-family-traumatized-after-ice-raids-home-but-they-werent-suspects/>
>
>      --bks
>

If I would be dictator for a day. This is what we decided to elect.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied.  @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                    /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#1183858

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-04-30 07:38 -0400
Message-ID<8s241klfr4ekj6elv4iia74s5ktb62k4ul@4ax.com>
In reply to#1183748
On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 18:58:23 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | 'We're citizens!': Oklahoma City family traumatized after
> | ICE raids home, but they weren't suspects 
> | ...
><https://kfor.com/news/local/were-citizens-oklahoma-city-family-traumatized-after-ice-raids-home-but-they-werent-suspects/>
>
>    --bks

From your article:

"The agents had a search warrant for the home, but the suspects listed
on the warrant do not live in the house.

The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma
City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier."

Did the illegals leave a forwarding address?

Laughter.

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#1183879

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-30 15:00 +0000
Message-ID<vutduv$6f5$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1183858
>> | 'We're citizens!': Oklahoma City family traumatized after
>> | ICE raids home, but they weren't suspects 

 | 
 | Mohsen Mahdawi, a Palestinian Columbia student who had been
 | detained by immigration authorities when he went in for his
 | U.S. citizenship interview, has been released after a
 | federal judge's order on Wednesday.
 | ...
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mohsen-mahdawi-released-columbia-ice-detention/>

    --bks

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#1183967

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-05-01 07:13 -0400
Message-ID<7ql61ktb90gkoggmulnhq6efa70cs9lofr@4ax.com>
In reply to#1183879
On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:00:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>> | 'We're citizens!': Oklahoma City family traumatized after
>>> | ICE raids home, but they weren't suspects 
>
> | 
> | Mohsen Mahdawi, a Palestinian Columbia student who had been
> | detained by immigration authorities when he went in for his
> | U.S. citizenship interview, has been released after a
> | federal judge's order on Wednesday.
> | ...
><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mohsen-mahdawi-released-columbia-ice-detention/>
>
>    --bks

Yet another judge that exceeds his scope of power.

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