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| Started by | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| First post | 2025-04-30 08:38 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-04-30 11:49 -0400 |
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Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 08:38 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 13:52 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-30 11:52 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-04-30 18:00 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 21:32 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-30 21:45 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-01 11:28 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-01 22:40 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-01 01:50 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-02 17:42 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 03:26 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 14:40 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-04 11:44 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-04 17:53 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-06 02:41 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-09 13:02 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-09 11:30 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 18:57 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-15 14:52 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-15 18:35 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 18:38 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-02 16:18 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 13:10 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-09 18:18 +0000
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 10:56 -0400
Re: Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-30 11:49 -0400
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 08:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Trump Pegs The Gaslight-o-Meter |
| Message-ID | <vut5kc$988$1@panix3.panix.com> |
Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
|
| Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
| Real in Testy Interview
|
| The president's sit-down with ABC News spun off the rails
| when he falsely claimed that the man the administration
| wrongly deported to El Salvador has "MS-13" on his knuckles
| ...
<https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-insists-abrego-garcia-pic-real-abc-news-interview-1235328225/>
Transcript of the interview:
<https://abcnews.go.com/US/full-transcript-trumps-exclusive-100-days-broadcast-interview/story?id=121291672>
--bks
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 13:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vut9vj$cib$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1183863 |
>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
> |
> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
> | Real in Testy Interview
Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
|
| "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
| ...
<https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114427089568235019>
--bks
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 11:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vutgvl$hdd9$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1183876 |
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>> |
>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>> | Real in Testy Interview
>
> Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
> |
> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
> | ...
> <https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114427089568235019>
<https://www.alamy.com/gaslighting-and-conning-meter-that-is-hitting-a-full-scale-showing-a-very-high-level-of-gaslighting-image646941816.html>
--
There's no such thing as pure pleasure; some anxiety always goes with it.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 18:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB2D18473186C2629555@185.151.15.190> |
| In reply to | #1183876 |
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vut9vj$cib$2 @reader1.panix.com: >>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real! >> | >> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is >> | Real in Testy Interview > > Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this: > | > | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's > | ... > <https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114427089568235019> > > --bks When the stock market jumps under Biden Trump takes credit. When the stock market crashes under Trump he blames Biden. And the Trumpers here actually beliive it! This is a cult. There is no other way to explain it. Trump attempts to take credit for stock market record highs under Biden JAN 29 2024 "THIS IS THE TRUMP STOCK MARKET," Trump wrote in an all-caps Truth Social post, "BECAUSE MY POLLS AGAINST BIDEN ARE SO GOOD THAT INVESTORS ARE PROJECTING THAT I WILL WIN, AND THAT WILL DRIVE THE MARKET UP." Trump cited no evidence to back up the claim that investors are buying into the stock market now in anticipation that the Republican ex-president will beat the Democratic incumbent in an election nearly 10 months away. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/29/trump-attempts-to-take-credit-for-stock- market-record-highs-under-biden.html
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 21:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vuu4tg$np4$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1183876 |
>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>> |
>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>> | Real in Testy Interview
>Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
> |
> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
Perfectly normal Trump ass-kissing cabinet meeting:
|
| [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
| met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
| enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
| President Trump from all of us."
|
| [12-second Fox News video at URL]
| ...
<https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lo2c3ubg332f>
--bks
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 21:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vuu5mf$g2j$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1183925 |
>>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>>> | Real in Testy Interview
MS-13 Pam Bondi!
<https://bsky.app/profile/iglesiasplata.bsky.social/post/3lo2jvmzhac2w>
--bks
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 11:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vv03vr$2sfu3$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1183926 |
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is >>>> | Real in Testy Interview > > MS-13 Pam Bondi! > <https://bsky.app/profile/iglesiasplata.bsky.social/post/3lo2jvmzhac2w> I think that's actually Lyin' Leavitt. Guy did a good job making the tatts look real. Also at that URL is Bondi yammering insanely about Trump saving "285 million lives". -- Bozos, please inflate your shoes. Please remain seated until the ride has come to a complete stop. Follow the yellow rubber line. Remember the yellow line is for your protection.
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 22:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv0t9r$6jj$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1184008 |
|
| [Fox News host Bret] Baier: "The economy shrank. First time
| in 3 years. People are pointing to the tariff policy..."
|
| [VP] JD Vance: "This is Joe Biden's economy."
|
| [32-second Fox News video at URL]
|
<https://bsky.app/profile/rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social/post/3lo5elvsdts2h>
--bks
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-01 01:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB2D1D4325D191629555@185.151.15.160> |
| In reply to | #1183925 |
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vuu4tg$np4$2
@reader1.panix.com:
>>>Trump insists a photoshopped image is real!
>>> |
>>> | Trump Insists Clearly Edited Pic of Abrego Garcia's Tats Is
>>> | Real in Testy Interview
>
>>Trumplings will have to open real wide to swallow this:
>> |
>> | "This is Biden's Stock Market, not Trump's
>
> Perfectly normal Trump ass-kissing cabinet meeting:
> |
> | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
> | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
> | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
> | President Trump from all of us."
Except the Capitol Police, who he wants
to prosecute doing their jobs on Jan 6.
> |
> | [12-second Fox News video at URL]
> | ...
> <https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lo2c3ubg332f>
>
> --bks
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 17:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv306a$p71$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1183943 |
>> | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've
>> | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law
>> | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank
>> | President Trump from all of us."
Ann Coulter joins the Resistance:
|
| Would it be possible to have a cabinet meeting without the
| Kim Jong il-style tributes?
|
<https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/1917624573027127795>
--bks
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 03:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <gh5e1kl3mnjgo00coqqllhkbuc5tpvp9r5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1184145 |
On Fri, 2 May 2025 17:42:34 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote: >>> | [Secretary of the Interior Doug] Burgum: "Everybody I've >>> | met, whether it's at a coal mine or the border, law >>> | enforcement, the one thing they say is please thank >>> | President Trump from all of us." > >Ann Coulter joins the Resistance: > | > | Would it be possible to have a cabinet meeting without the > | Kim Jong il-style tributes? > | ><https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/1917624573027127795> > > --bks Not only did Ukraine sympathizers in Russia execute a high ranking Russian military official, they videoed and posted it. <https://x.com/Mylovanov/status/1915844988308431325> -- MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 14:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv7u9o$ktm$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1184335 |
You can't make this shit up:
|
| President Trump says 'good parts' of economy are his and
| 'bad parts are the Biden economy'
| ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/president-trump-says-good-parts-of-economy-are-his-and-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy-238867525974>
--bks
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 11:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vv821a$29efv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1184350 |
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > You can't make this shit up: > | > | President Trump says 'good parts' of economy are his and > | 'bad parts are the Biden economy' > | ... > <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/president-trump-says-good-parts-of-economy-are-his-and-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy-238867525974> Did Welker laugh in his face? (Not gonna watch and listen to that gaslighting jackass). -- Half Moon tonight. (At least it's better than no Moon at all.)
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 17:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB2D58351C9596629555@185.151.15.160> |
| In reply to | #1184350 |
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vv7u9o$ktm$1@reader1.panix.com: > You can't make this shit up: > | > | President Trump says 'good parts' of economy are his and > | 'bad parts are the Biden economy' > | ... > <https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/president-trump-says-good > -parts-of-economy-are-his-and-bad-parts-are-the-biden-economy-238867525 > 974> > > --bks 1) Trump was misquoted 2) Trump was just joking 3) Prove Trump wrong 4) Why is the media so focused on Trump 5) Biden Biden Biden 6) Her emails
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 02:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvbsrt$i4t$6@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1184372 |
|
| President Trump said he had "nothing to do with" an image
| depicting him as the pope that *was posted on his and the
| White House's social media accounts*, drawing criticism from
| Catholics around the globe. Mr. Trump, who previously told
| reporters that he was his own "No. 1" choice to be the next
| pope, insisted on Monday, "The Catholics loved it."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/05/us/trump-news#trump-venezuela-gang-ties-spy-memo>
(volatile URL)
--bks
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-05-09 13:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvkuca$a9g$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1184573 |
|
| President Trump called the slowdown at U.S. ports in the
| wake of his tariffs on China going into effect a "good
| thing."
| ...
<https://www.axios.com/2025/05/08/trump-tariffs-china-ports-slowdown>
--bks
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-05-09 11:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vvl73g$2sd84$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1184994 |
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
> | President Trump called the slowdown at U.S. ports in the
> | wake of his tariffs on China going into effect a "good
> | thing."
> | ...
> <https://www.axios.com/2025/05/08/trump-tariffs-china-ports-slowdown>
I would not call this "gaslighting". I would call it "Trump has no clue."
Trump asserted that "China was making over a trillion," without it being
immediately clear what he was referring to.
"From 500 billion to 1.1 trillion… frankly if we didn't do business we
would've been better off," he said.
China says it sent around 15% of its exports, worth $525 billion, to the
U.S. last year — about 3x what flowed in the opposite direction. (U.S. data
differs on the total value by nearly $100 billion, but the ratios are about
the same.)
"We'd like to see China opened up so we can compete in China and give
people something that they've never had – access to something that would be
great for the world, great for the businesses, and great for friendship,"
Trump said.
--
The default Magic Word, "Abracadabra", actually is a corruption of the
Hebrew phrase "ha-Bracha dab'ra" which means "pronounce the blessing".
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-10 18:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <6cmv1k9bup0me9j7hp78m23khfnpgpabsj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1185009 |
On Fri, 9 May 2025 11:30:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> | President Trump called the slowdown at U.S. ports in the >> | wake of his tariffs on China going into effect a "good >> | thing." >> | ... >> <https://www.axios.com/2025/05/08/trump-tariffs-china-ports-slowdown> > >I would not call this "gaslighting". I would call it "Trump has no clue." > > Trump asserted that "China was making over a trillion," without it being > immediately clear what he was referring to. > > "From 500 billion to 1.1 trillion… frankly if we didn't do business we > would've been better off," he said. ... said the man who exports all his manufacturing, mostly to China. > China says it sent around 15% of its exports, worth $525 billion, to the > U.S. last year — about 3x what flowed in the opposite direction. (U.S. data > differs on the total value by nearly $100 billion, but the ratios are about > the same.) > > "We'd like to see China opened up so we can compete in China and give > people something that they've never had – access to something that would be > great for the world, great for the businesses, and great for friendship," > Trump said. Then we need background trade negotiations to get our intellectual property payments back. Not high drama and war. -- If gang affiliation is illegal, why isn't every Proud Boy and Klansman sent to El Salvador?
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-05-15 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1004v30$4qe$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1185221 |
|
| This is absolutely incredible -- Kristi Noem repeatedly
| refuses to acknowledge that Trump brandished an doctored
| image of Abrego Garcia's tattoos, prompting Eric Swalwell
| to have a staffer of his brandish an image of them right in
| her face.
|
| [174-second video at URL]
|
<https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lp5c4uv7l22l>
--bks
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-15 18:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB2E08A4941FB6629555@185.151.15.190> |
| In reply to | #1185981 |
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:1004v30$4qe$2@reader1.panix.com:
> |
> | This is absolutely incredible -- Kristi Noem repeatedly
> | refuses to acknowledge that Trump brandished an doctored
> | image of Abrego Garcia's tattoos, prompting Eric Swalwell
> | to have a staffer of his brandish an image of them right in
> | her face.
> |
> | [174-second video at URL]
> |
> <https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lp5c4u
> v7l22l>
>
> --bks
>
"I see four lights!"
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