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Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution"

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  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-22 09:13 -0400
    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-22 13:23 +0000
      Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-22 13:53 +0000
        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2025-03-22 11:04 -0700
      Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-23 08:58 -0400
        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-24 07:05 -0400
          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-24 12:22 +0000
            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-25 06:56 -0400
              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Lee <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:53 -0700
              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-26 07:11 -0400
          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-14 23:06 +0000
            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-15 22:29 +0000
              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-04-15 17:44 -0700
              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-16 07:32 -0400
                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 13:48 +0000
                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-16 20:14 +0000
                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-17 15:17 +0000
                    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-23 12:44 +0000
                      Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-24 07:15 -0400
                        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-24 09:16 -0700
                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-25 07:13 -0400
                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-29 19:58 +0000
                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 14:44 +0000
                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-04 11:48 -0400
                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-04 18:10 +0000
                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2025-05-04 13:32 -0700
                                    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-04 22:07 +0000
                                      Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-05 07:07 -0400
                                        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-05 07:23 -0700
                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-06 07:18 -0400
                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-06 06:08 -0700
                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-08 06:54 -0400
                                        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-05 21:43 +0000
                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-05 16:57 -0700
                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-06 07:19 -0400
                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 12:47 -0400
                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-07 02:34 +0000
                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-06 21:25 -0700
                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 18:08 -0400
                                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-07 22:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-08 06:56 -0400
                                                    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-08 14:39 +0000
                                                      Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-19 01:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-08 13:18 -0400
                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2025-05-06 10:37 -0700
                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-05-08 16:43 -0400
                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-09 22:00 +0000
                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-10 12:10 +0000
                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-10 11:04 -0400
                                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-10 15:20 +0000
                                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 03:42 -0400
                                                    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 10:38 -0400
                                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-15 23:21 -0600
                                                    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-19 00:02 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-19 14:09 +0000
                                                        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-20 21:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-21 00:35 -0400
                                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-21 13:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 15:19 -0400
                                                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 18:21 -0400
                                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 15:15 -0400
                                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-05-21 13:09 +0000
                                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-21 09:29 -0700
                                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 15:33 -0400
                                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 11:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 15:27 -0400
                                                            Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Grimble Crumble <grimblecrumble870@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 14:53 -0500
                                                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-22 18:30 -0400
                                                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Grimble Crumble <grimblecrumble870@gmail.com> - 2025-05-23 03:23 -0500
                                                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Grimble Crumble <grimblecrumble870@gmail.com> - 2025-05-23 03:34 -0500
                                                          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-21 07:59 -0700
                                        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-06 07:21 -0400
                                    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-05-05 01:43 +0000
                                Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-05 07:05 -0400
                                  Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-05-06 07:21 -0400
                              Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-05 00:06 -0600
        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Lee <bks@panix.com> - 2025-03-24 10:04 -0700
        Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 12:38 -0700
          Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-08 11:53 +0000
    Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution" Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 06:47 -0700

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#1178129 — Re: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution"

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-22 09:13 -0400
SubjectRe: Trump Says, "Fuck Due Process, Fuck The Constitution"
Message-ID<nqdttjlkc404r977vdfubb263b8rb8t7e2@4ax.com>
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 15:05:07 -0400 (EDT), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | ...
> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
> | against them?
> | 
> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
> | country needs.
> | ...
><https://punchbowl.news/archive/32125-midday/>
>
>    --bks
>
>Fascists gotta fascist.

How DARE he follow a law.

Laughter.

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#1178134

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-22 13:23 +0000
Message-ID<vrmdl2$5pn$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178129
Kremlin Girl  <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> | ...
>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>> | against them?
>> | 
>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>> | country needs.
> ...
>How DARE he follow a law.

Kremlin Girl has serious daddy issues.  She *wants*
a dictatorship.  And as she is in Russia, she has
no interest in due process in the USA.  She doesn't
even know what "law" Trump is referring to.

    --bks

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#1178144

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-03-22 13:53 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB2AA5B2392E88629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#1178134
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vrmdl2$5pn$1
@reader1.panix.com:

> Kremlin Girl  <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> | ...
>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>> | against them?
>>> | 
>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>> | country needs.
>> ...
>>How DARE he follow a law.
> 
> Kremlin Girl has serious daddy issues.  She *wants*
> a dictatorship.  And as she is in Russia, she has
> no interest in due process in the USA.  She doesn't
> even know what "law" Trump is referring to.
> 
>     --bks
> 


    Trump could care less about due process
or the rule of law. 



"Take the guns first, go through due process second"
 02/28/18 
President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for 
confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed 
to be dangerous, even if it violates due process 
rights. "Take the guns first, go through due
process second," Trump said.
http://tinyurl.com/y7ychvkv

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#1178172

FromLou Bricano <lb@cap.con>
Date2025-03-22 11:04 -0700
Message-ID<AYCDP.709118$2zn8.665288@fx15.iad>
In reply to#1178144
On 3/22/2025 6:53 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:vrmdl2$5pn$1
> @reader1.panix.com:
> 
>> Kremlin Girl  <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> | ...
>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>> | against them?
>>>> |
>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>> | country needs.
>>> ...
>>> How DARE he follow a law.
>>
>> Kremlin Girl has serious daddy issues.  She *wants*
>> a dictatorship.  And as she is in Russia, she has
>> no interest in due process in the USA.  She doesn't
>> even know what "law" Trump is referring to.
>>
>>      --bks
>>
> 
> 
>      Trump could care less about due process
> or the rule of law.

*Couldn't* care less — the expression is "could *not* care less," meaning 
doesn't care at all. If you say "he could care less," then that means he *does* 
care, at least a little bit.

Get it right.

> 
> 
> 
> "Take the guns first, go through due process second"
>   02/28/18
> President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for
> confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed
> to be dangerous, even if it violates due process
> rights. "Take the guns first, go through due
> process second," Trump said.
> http://tinyurl.com/y7ychvkv

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#1178249

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-23 08:58 -0400
Message-ID<r910uj93qcpmeu9mhnp6s8g7uspbg4vr27@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178134
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:23:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl  <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> | ...
>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>> | against them?
>>> | 
>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>> | country needs.
>> ...
>>How DARE he follow a law.
>
>Kremlin Girl has serious daddy issues.  She *wants*
>a dictatorship.  And as she is in Russia, she has
>no interest in due process in the USA.  She doesn't
>even know what "law" Trump is referring to.
>
>    --bks

Yawn.  How about address what I said instead of relying on insults? Oh
heck, how about addressing ALL the posts that you post then run away
from?

Sounds like you're the one with daddy issues.

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#1178322

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-24 07:05 -0400
Message-ID<33f2uj1cjgi1pq6fn9qbj7aa69i5sstm4t@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178249
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 08:58:51 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 13:23:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl  <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> | ...
>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>> | against them?
>>>> | 
>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>> | country needs.
>>> ...
>>>How DARE he follow a law.
>>
>>Kremlin Girl has serious daddy issues.  She *wants*
>>a dictatorship.  And as she is in Russia, she has
>>no interest in due process in the USA.  She doesn't
>>even know what "law" Trump is referring to.
>>
>>    --bks
>
>Yawn.  How about address what I said instead of relying on insults? Oh
>heck, how about addressing ALL the posts that you post then run away
>from?
>
>Sounds like you're the one with daddy issues.

And Bradley has run away.

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#1178326

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-24 12:22 +0000
Message-ID<vrriqn$rcp$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178322
Sound and fury, signifying nothing:
 | 
 | In the first two months of President Trump's immigration
 | crackdown, the administration has taken new and unusual
 | measures to conduct deportations. It has enlisted military
 | planes, pressured other countries to retrieve their
 | citizens, sent people to third countries far from their
 | homes, and invoked a wartime law to remove migrants without
 | due process.
 | 
 | But even as immigration officials have escalated efforts to
 | remove people from the United States, they continue to fall
 | short of the mass deportations Mr. Trump vowed to carry
 | out. Overall, the number of flights and their destinations
 | look largely similar to those under President Joseph R.
 | Biden Jr.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/22/us/trump-deportation-flights-maps.html>

    --bks

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#1178416

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-25 06:56 -0400
Message-ID<7u25uj1s82fe9rumbkp9nlpu0ck62j3k31@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178326
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:22:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Sound and fury, signifying nothing:
> | 
> | In the first two months of President Trump's immigration
> | crackdown, the administration has taken new and unusual
> | measures to conduct deportations. It has enlisted military
> | planes, pressured other countries to retrieve their
> | citizens, sent people to third countries far from their
> | homes, and invoked a wartime law to remove migrants without
> | due process.
> | 
> | But even as immigration officials have escalated efforts to
> | remove people from the United States, they continue to fall
> | short of the mass deportations Mr. Trump vowed to carry
> | out. Overall, the number of flights and their destinations
> | look largely similar to those under President Joseph R.
> | Biden Jr.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/22/us/trump-deportation-flights-maps.html>
>
>    --bks

They acknowledge that he's been successful but you're complaining that
he hasn't been successful enough?

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#1178451

FromLee <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Date2025-03-25 08:53 -0700
Message-ID<2kAEP.1340480$t84d.423327@fx11.iad>
In reply to#1178416
On 3/25/2025 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:22:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>> Sound and fury, signifying nothing:
>> |
>> | In the first two months of President Trump's immigration
>> | crackdown, the administration has taken new and unusual
>> | measures to conduct deportations. It has enlisted military
>> | planes, pressured other countries to retrieve their
>> | citizens, sent people to third countries far from their
>> | homes, and invoked a wartime law to remove migrants without
>> | due process.
>> |
>> | But even as immigration officials have escalated efforts to
>> | remove people from the United States, they continue to fall
>> | short of the mass deportations Mr. Trump vowed to carry
>> | out. Overall, the number of flights and their destinations
>> | look largely similar to those under President Joseph R.
>> | Biden Jr.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/22/us/trump-deportation-flights-maps.html>
>>
>>     --bks
> 
> They acknowledge that he's been successful but 

The story is at the New York Times, which you refuse to read, so you don't know 
what they "acknowledge." Fuck off, Nazi liar.

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#1178509

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-26 07:11 -0400
Message-ID<c6o7uj1dbvk7g6kpip2emlfofqugnvab6i@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178416
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 06:56:36 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:22:47 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Sound and fury, signifying nothing:
>> | 
>> | In the first two months of President Trump's immigration
>> | crackdown, the administration has taken new and unusual
>> | measures to conduct deportations. It has enlisted military
>> | planes, pressured other countries to retrieve their
>> | citizens, sent people to third countries far from their
>> | homes, and invoked a wartime law to remove migrants without
>> | due process.
>> | 
>> | But even as immigration officials have escalated efforts to
>> | remove people from the United States, they continue to fall
>> | short of the mass deportations Mr. Trump vowed to carry
>> | out. Overall, the number of flights and their destinations
>> | look largely similar to those under President Joseph R.
>> | Biden Jr.
>> | ...
>><https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/22/us/trump-deportation-flights-maps.html>
>>
>>    --bks
>
>They acknowledge that he's been successful but you're complaining that
>he hasn't been successful enough?

And Bradley has run away again.

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#1181439

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-14 23:06 +0000
Message-ID<vtk4e7$spo$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178322
>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>> | against them?
>>>>> | 
>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>> | country needs.

 | 
 | What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in
 | the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a
 | judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or
 | convicted of any crime by judicial process
 |
<https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/concentration-camps-1933-39>

    --bks

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#1181582

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-15 22:29 +0000
Message-ID<vtmmka$8vt$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181439
>>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>>> | against them?
>>>>>> | 
>>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>>> | country needs.

> | What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in
> | the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a
> | judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or
> | convicted of any crime by judicial process

 | ... 
 | First, there's the obvious: Trump is going around arresting
 | innocent people, and sending them to foreign
 | torture-dungeons, apparently for the rest of their lives.
 | Bloomberg reports that about 90% of these deportees had no
 | criminal records in the U.S., and most have not been
 | charged with any crime:
 | ... 
<https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-authoritarian-takeover-attempt>

    --bks

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#1181596

FromJ Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
Date2025-04-15 17:44 -0700
Message-ID<vtmugm$tktf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1181582
On 4/15/2025 3:29 PM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>>>> | against them?
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>>>> | country needs.
> 
>> | What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in
>> | the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a
>> | judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or
>> | convicted of any crime by judicial process
> 
>   | ...
>   | First, there's the obvious: Trump is going around arresting
>   | innocent people, and sending them to foreign
>   | torture-dungeons, apparently for the rest of their lives.
>   | Bloomberg reports that about 90% of these deportees had no
>   | criminal records in the U.S., and most have not been
>   | charged with any crime:

And they weren't deported for any crime they may have committed in their 
countries of origin.

>   | ...
> <https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-authoritarian-takeover-attempt>
> 
>      --bks

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#1181640

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-04-16 07:32 -0400
Message-ID<k95vvj5eo3ukihribkejkaqeufv6oedrbm@4ax.com>
In reply to#1181582
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:29:30 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>>>> | against them?
>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>>>> | country needs.
>
>> | What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in
>> | the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a
>> | judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or
>> | convicted of any crime by judicial process
>
> | ... 
> | First, there's the obvious: Trump is going around arresting
> | innocent people, and sending them to foreign
> | torture-dungeons, apparently for the rest of their lives.
> | Bloomberg reports that about 90% of these deportees had no
> | criminal records in the U.S., and most have not been
> | charged with any crime:
> | ... 
><https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-authoritarian-takeover-attempt>
>
>    --bks

Delusional much?

Laughter.

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#1181674

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 13:48 +0000
Message-ID<vtocfv$82u$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181640
>>>>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>>>>> | against them?
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>>>>> | country needs.

 | 
 | Trump to Fox on deporting Americans to a gulag in El
 | Salvador: "We want to do it. I would love to do that."
 | 
 | [24-second Fox News video at URL]
 |
<https://x.com/atrupar/status/1912190473147384291>

    --bks

<https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-8/>

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#1181733

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-16 20:14 +0000
Message-ID<vtp33r$nuk$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181640
>>>>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>>>>> | against them?
>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>>>>> | country needs.

>>> | What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in
>>> | the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a
>>> | judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or
>>> | convicted of any crime by judicial process

 | 
 | A government memo obtained by CBS News shows the Trump
 | administration created broad rules outlining which migrants
 | can be held at Guantanamo Bay, allowing officials to send
 | non-criminal detainees there despite a vow to hold "the
 | worst" offenders at the naval base.
 | ... 
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/guantanamo-trump-migrants-without-criminal-records/>

    --bks

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#1181846

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-17 15:17 +0000
Message-ID<vtr61f$bq9$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181733
>>>>>>>>> | REPORTER: Mr. President, do you think that you have the
>>>>>>>>> | authority, the power, to round up people, deport them, and
>>>>>>>>> | you're under no obligation to a court to show the evidence
>>>>>>>>> | against them?
>>>>>>>>> | 
>>>>>>>>> | TRUMP: That's what the law says. And that's what our
>>>>>>>>> | country needs.

>>>> | What distinguishes a concentration camp from a prison (in
>>>> | the modern sense) is that it functions outside of a
>>>> | judicial system. The prisoners are not indicted or
>>>> | convicted of any crime by judicial process

 | 
 | A Loophole That Would Swallow the Constitution
 | 
 | If Donald Trump can disappear people to El Salvador without
 | due process, he can do anything.
 | ...
<https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/trump-constitution-abrego-garcia/682487/>

    --bks

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#1182843

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-04-23 12:44 +0000
Message-ID<vuanbr$mqm$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1181846
> | A Loophole That Would Swallow the Constitution
> | 
> | If Donald Trump can disappear people to El Salvador without
> | due process, he can do anything.

 | ... 
 | An official with the U.S. Immigration and Customs
 | Enforcement acknowledged that "many" of the men deported on
 | March 15 lack criminal records in the United States -- but
 | said that "the lack of specific information about each
 | individual actually highlights the risk they pose."
 | ... 
 | "This is the United States of America," [U.S. District
 | Judge Alvin] Hellerstein said Tuesday. "People are being
 | thrown out of the country because of their tattoos."
 | 
 | The judge also blasted a DOJ lawyer for suggesting due
 | process is a "flexible standard."
 | ...
<https://abc7.com/post/alien-enemies-act-judge-new-york-extends-block-aea-deportations-calling-medieval/16224496/>

    --bks

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#1183027

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-04-24 07:15 -0400
Message-ID<i97k0ktbasi24qj7cibiqtt2hgfan3j7a5@4ax.com>
In reply to#1182843
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 12:44:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>> | A Loophole That Would Swallow the Constitution
>> | 
>> | If Donald Trump can disappear people to El Salvador without
>> | due process, he can do anything.
>
> | ... 
> | An official with the U.S. Immigration and Customs
> | Enforcement acknowledged that "many" of the men deported on
> | March 15 lack criminal records in the United States -- but
> | said that "the lack of specific information about each
> | individual actually highlights the risk they pose."
> | ... 
> | "This is the United States of America," [U.S. District
> | Judge Alvin] Hellerstein said Tuesday. "People are being
> | thrown out of the country because of their tattoos."
> | 
> | The judge also blasted a DOJ lawyer for suggesting due
> | process is a "flexible standard."
> | ...
><https://abc7.com/post/alien-enemies-act-judge-new-york-extends-block-aea-deportations-calling-medieval/16224496/>
>
>    --bks

Activist judge creates law and Bradley celebrates.

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#1183066

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-04-24 09:16 -0700
Message-ID<vudo2o$1u8k6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1183027
On 24/4/25 4:15, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 12:44:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>>> | A Loophole That Would Swallow the Constitution
>>> |
>>> | If Donald Trump can disappear people to El Salvador without
>>> | due process, he can do anything.
>>
>> | ...
>> | An official with the U.S. Immigration and Customs
>> | Enforcement acknowledged that "many" of the men deported on
>> | March 15 lack criminal records in the United States -- but
>> | said that "the lack of specific information about each
>> | individual actually highlights the risk they pose."
>> | ...
>> | "This is the United States of America," [U.S. District
>> | Judge Alvin] Hellerstein said Tuesday. "People are being
>> | thrown out of the country because of their tattoos."
>> |
>> | The judge also blasted a DOJ lawyer for suggesting due
>> | process is a "flexible standard."
>> | ...
>> <https://abc7.com/post/alien-enemies-act-judge-new-york-extends-block-aea-deportations-calling-medieval/16224496/>
>>
>>     --bks
>
> Activist judge creates law and Bradley celebrates.
>

What law is created?

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