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Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure

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  Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-25 07:35 -0400
    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-25 11:49 +0000
      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-25 13:05 +0000
        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-25 15:35 +0000
          Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-26 07:32 -0400
            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-26 11:38 +0000
              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-26 12:48 +0000
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-26 14:04 +0000
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-03-26 11:16 -0400
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 15:30 -0700
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 20:31 -0400
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-27 07:08 -0400
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 20:31 -0400
            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Clave <ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com> - 2025-03-26 08:50 -0700
              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-26 10:14 -0600
              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 18:20 -0700
            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Chris Voigtlander <jacque.idiot.pal@number.2> - 2025-03-26 08:52 -0700
              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-26 10:14 -0600
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-26 22:45 +0000
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-27 07:11 -0400
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 20:34 -0400
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-26 22:53 +0000
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-27 07:12 -0400
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-03-27 09:01 -0700
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-27 15:05 -0600
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-28 07:07 -0400
            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-03-26 16:03 +0000
              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-26 10:15 -0600
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-26 17:38 +0000
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-03-26 10:54 -0700
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 18:20 -0700
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-27 07:13 -0400
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-27 13:10 +0000
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-27 13:41 +0000
                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-27 08:55 -0600
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-27 10:52 -0400
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-28 07:01 -0400
                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 13:02 +0000
                          Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-29 08:40 -0400
                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Lee <cleetios@gmail.corn> - 2025-03-28 08:13 -0700
                          Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-29 08:41 -0400
                            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-29 16:48 -0700
                              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-30 09:32 -0400
                                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-30 14:35 -0700
                            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-30 09:33 -0400
                              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-01 19:42 +0000
                                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-02 07:37 -0400
                                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-02 12:38 +0000
                                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-02 19:48 +0000
                                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 02:41 -0400
                                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-09 00:01 -0600
                                          Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-04-09 13:01 +0000
                                            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-04-25 12:41 +0000
                                              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-26 08:58 -0400
                                                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-26 09:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-01 23:19 -0600
                                                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-27 09:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-01 16:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-02 11:01 +0000
                                                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 15:54 -0400
                                                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-05 11:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-05-05 22:12 +0000
                                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 02:39 -0400
                                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-04-03 07:17 -0400
                                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 02:31 -0400
                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-29 08:41 -0400
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-27 13:35 +0000
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 20:37 -0400
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-03-27 09:05 -0700
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Skeeter <none@none.com> - 2025-03-27 15:06 -0600
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 20:35 -0400
            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-26 16:25 -0400
              Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-26 22:52 +0000
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 18:20 -0700
                Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-27 08:39 -0400
                  Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-27 13:00 +0000
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-27 14:38 +0000
                    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-28 07:04 -0400
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 13:05 +0000
                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-28 11:25 -0400
                        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-29 01:45 +0000
                      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-03-28 08:34 -0700
            Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 15:29 -0700
    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-26 07:21 -0400
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        Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-29 20:45 -0400
      Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 18:20 -0700
    Re: Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> - 2025-03-26 15:24 +0000
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#1178422 — Signalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-25 07:35 -0400
SubjectSignalgate, A Massive Trump National Security Failure
Message-ID<vru4dr$cv1$1@panix3.panix.com>
 | 
 | THE LAST WALTZ? Questions are swirling this morning about
 | the future of national security adviser Mike Waltz over his
 | role in what is surely -- hands-down -- one of the dumbest
 | security breaches of recent times. Waltz has yet to comment
 | publicly on The Atlantic's jaw-dropping revelation that he
 | set up an unsecured Signal chat group to discuss military
 | battle plans with Cabinet colleagues -- and then
 | accidentally invited Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey
 | Goldberg to join. POLITICO's Dasha Burns, Rachael Bade and
 | Eli Stokols revealed last night that multiple conversations
 | are now underway among White House officials over whether
 | Waltz should be forced to resign. All eyes are on the
 | commander-in-chief for a final decision.
 | 
 | What's on Trump's mind? Ominously for Waltz, there has been
 | no message of support thus far from the president, who
 | instead spent last night posting videos on Truth Social
 | about his own achievements. In fact, Trump -- normally a
 | vocal armchair pundit -- has not commented at all on the
 | story, beyond a few initial boilerplate attacks on The
 | Atlantic. All the signs are he's mulling his options.
 | 
 | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
 | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
 | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
 | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
 | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
 | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
 | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
 | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
 | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
 |  ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/25/signalgate-00246894>

    --bks

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#1178426

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-25 11:49 +0000
Message-ID<vru58u$j1j$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178422
> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.

 | 
 | Senior officials in President Donald Trump's administration
 | are facing fallout from revelations that they used a
 | commercial messaging app to discuss secret military plans
 | for Yemen and inadvertently included a journalist in the
 | group chat. The subject is certain to come up Tuesday at a
 | previously scheduled Senate Intelligence Committee hearing
 | at which at least two of the Cabinet members who
 | participated in the chat -- Director of National
 | Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe
 | -- are slated to testify. 
 | ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/25/trump-presidency-news/>

    --bks

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#1178431

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-03-25 13:05 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB2AD52E1A3B81629555@185.151.15.190>
In reply to#1178426
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:vru58u$j1j$2@reader1.panix.com: 

>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
> 
> | 
> | Senior officials in President Donald Trump's administration
> | are facing fallout from revelations that they used a
> | commercial messaging app to discuss secret military plans
> | for Yemen and inadvertently included a journalist in the
> | group chat. The subject is certain to come up Tuesday at a
> | previously scheduled Senate Intelligence Committee hearing
> | at which at least two of the Cabinet members who
> | participated in the chat -- Director of National
> | Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and CIA Director John Ratcliffe
> | -- are slated to testify. 
> | ...
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/25/trump-presidency-ne
> ws/> 
> 
>     --bks
> 


  
   Speaking of security breaches, remember the 
top secret Russian binder that "went missing"
when Trump left office. A Christmas present 
for Putin, no doubt. 




Binder of classified material on Russia 
reportedly went missing in final Trump 
days
Dec 15 2023
https://tinyurl.com/2s39sxa4



Binder With Top-Secret Russia Intelligence 
Missing Since End of Trump Term
Dec. 15, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/28px33jk

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#1178449

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-25 15:35 +0000
Message-ID<vruigf$t7a$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178431
>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.

 | 
 | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
 | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
 | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 
 | ... 
<https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>

 | 
 | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
 | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
 | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
 | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
 | others would have been fired for the same actions.
 | ... 
 | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
 | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
 | they would be fired," he added.
 | 
 | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
 | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
 | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
 | error."
 | ... 
<https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>

    --bks

They're DUI hires.

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#1178517

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-26 07:32 -0400
Message-ID<5cp7ujhto9s8gq3qbcf4nt0ufcamnkel6q@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178449
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
>
> | 
> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 
> | ... 
><https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
>
> | 
> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
> | ... 
> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
> | they would be fired," he added.
> | 
> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
> | error."
> | ... 
><https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
>
>    --bks
>
>They're DUI hires.

I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
there were any plans discussed in the chat.

Selective belief system Bradley?

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#1178519

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-26 11:38 +0000
Message-ID<vs0ov9$kl2$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178517
>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 

>> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>> | error."

 | 
 | Several days after top national security officials
 | accidentally included a reporter in a Signal chat about
 | bombing Houthi sites in Yemen, a Pentagon-wide advisory
 | warned against using the messaging app, even for
 | unclassified information.
 | 
 | "A vulnerability has been identified in the Signal
 | Messenger Application," begins the department-wide email,
 | dated March 18 and obtained by NPR.
 | ... 
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability>

    --bks

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#1178532

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-26 12:48 +0000
Message-ID<vs0t36$ova$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178519
>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 

>>> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>>> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>>> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>>> | error."

They just can't get their stories straight:
 | ...
 | So, inside 24 hours ... We've watched Hegseth flat-deny
 | what seems pretty clear evidence of battle plans being
 | leaked. We've watched Gabbard and Ratcliffe sitting side by
 | side in the Senate giving jarringly different answers --
 | one willing to respond, the other largely not. We've
 | watched Waltz give deeply unconvincing performances in the
 | Oval Office and on Fox. And we've watched Waltz and Trump
 | seemingly contradict one another about who was or wasn't to
 | blame. It's all been pretty messy, to say the least.
 | ...
<https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/03/26/circling-the-wagons-00250066>

    --bks

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#1178547

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-03-26 14:04 +0000
Message-ID<vs11hb$l9k$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1178532
>>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 

 | 
 | The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
 | the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
 | especially because the operation had not even started yet,
 | according to a US defense official and another source who
 | was briefed on the operation.
 | 
 | "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
 | martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
 | that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
 | to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
 | carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
 | irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
 | 
<https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>

 | ...
 | "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
 | classified channels that the government has spent so much
 | time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
 | uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
 | critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
 | videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
 | things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
 | exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
 | ...
<https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>

    --bks

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#1178552

FromBlue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org>
Date2025-03-26 11:16 -0400
Message-ID<bh68ujtd6p4q4urvg28ttdjing53la9tcq@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178547
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:04:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 
>
> | 
> | The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
> | the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
> | especially because the operation had not even started yet,
> | according to a US defense official and another source who
> | was briefed on the operation.
> | 
> | "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
> | martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
> | that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
> | to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
> | carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
> | irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
> | 
><https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
>
> | ...
> | "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
> | classified channels that the government has spent so much
> | time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
> | uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
> | critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
> | videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
> | things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
> | exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
> | ...
><https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
>
>    --bks

<LOL> So says a CNN fruitcake....

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#1178599

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-26 15:30 -0700
Message-ID<vs1v6p$2o285$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1178552
On 26/3/25 8:16, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:04:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
>
>>>>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
>>
>> |
>> | The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
>> | the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
>> | especially because the operation had not even started yet,
>> | according to a US defense official and another source who
>> | was briefed on the operation.
>> |
>> | "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
>> | martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
>> | that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
>> | to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
>> | carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
>> | irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
>> |
>> <https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
>>
>> | ...
>> | "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
>> | classified channels that the government has spent so much
>> | time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
>> | uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
>> | critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
>> | videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
>> | things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
>> | exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
>> | ...
>> <https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
>>
>>     --bks
>
> <LOL> So says a CNN fruitcake....
>

Ted Striker:
My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're 
bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're 
coming in from the north, below their radar.

Elaine Dickinson:
When will you be back?

Ted Striker:
I can't tell you that. It's classified.



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#1179075

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-29 20:31 -0400
Message-ID<l74hujp0mnff68qvlj3thfdb5vdp6jou44@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178599
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 15:30:58 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>Ted Striker:
>My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're 
>bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're 
>coming in from the north, below their radar.
>
>Elaine Dickinson:
>When will you be back?
>
>Ted Striker:
>I can't tell you that. It's classified.

<G>

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#1178678

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-27 07:08 -0400
Message-ID<hccaujtm5op1gr5vkv6lpf3k242ddp3kgq@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178552
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 11:16:23 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
<Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:04:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>>>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 
>>
>> | 
>> | The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
>> | the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
>> | especially because the operation had not even started yet,
>> | according to a US defense official and another source who
>> | was briefed on the operation.
>> | 
>> | "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
>> | martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
>> | that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
>> | to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
>> | carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
>> | irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
>> | 
>><https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
>>
>> | ...
>> | "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
>> | classified channels that the government has spent so much
>> | time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
>> | uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
>> | critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
>> | videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
>> | things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
>> | exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
>> | ...
>><https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
>>
>>    --bks
>
><LOL> So says a CNN fruitcake....

And posted by Bradley, the leftist fruitcake.

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#1179074

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-29 20:31 -0400
Message-ID<764hujhbkml7plrco8slm80rtjt86khef3@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178552
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 11:16:23 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
<Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.org> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:04:27 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>>>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>>>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>>>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots. 
>>
>> | 
>> | The information Secretary of Defense Hegseth disclosed in
>> | the Signal chat was classified at the time he wrote it,
>> | especially because the operation had not even started yet,
>> | according to a US defense official and another source who
>> | was briefed on the operation.
>> | 
>> | "It is safe to say that anybody in uniform would be court
>> | martialed for this," the official said. "We don't provide
>> | that level of information on unclassified systems, in order
>> | to protect the lives and safety of the servicemembers
>> | carrying out these strikes. If we did, it would be wholly
>> | irresponsible. My most junior analysts know not to do this."
>> | 
>><https://x.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1904890815136039418>
>>
>> | ...
>> | "It's inconceivable to me that people would not use the
>> | classified channels that the government has spent so much
>> | time and effort and money over decades trying to make as
>> | uncompromisable as they can," John Bolton, who has become a
>> | critic of Trump, told Here & Now. "And whether it's secure
>> | videos, secure telephones, secure text or email kinds of
>> | things, the channels are there. It's not like they don't
>> | exist. Why would you ever not use them?"
>> | ...
>><https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/03/25/signal-leak-trump>
>>
>>    --bks
>
><LOL> So says a CNN fruitcake....

John Bolton is a CNN fruitcake?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

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#1178555

FromClave <ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com>
Date2025-03-26 08:50 -0700
Message-ID<wnVEP.1299217$FVcd.328005@fx10.iad>
In reply to#1178517
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
>>
>> |
>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
>>
>> |
>> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
>> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
>> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
>> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
>> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
>> | ...
>> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
>> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
>> | they would be fired," he added.
>> |
>> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>> | error."
>> | ...
>> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
>>
>>     --bks
>>
>> They're DUI hires.
> 
> I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
> there were any plans discussed in the chat.
I love that you think they were only talking about the NCAA basketball tournament.

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#1178558

FromSkeeter <none@none.com>
Date2025-03-26 10:14 -0600
Message-ID<MPG.424dd5b155380f23989745@usnews.blocknews.net>
In reply to#1178555
In article <wnVEP.1299217$FVcd.328005@fx10.iad>, 
ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com says...
> 
> On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> > Sherman) wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
> >>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
> >>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
> >>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
> >>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
> >>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
> >>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
> >>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
> >>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
> >>
> >> |
> >> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
> >> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
> >> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
> >> | ...
> >> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
> >>
> >> |
> >> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
> >> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
> >> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
> >> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
> >> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
> >> | ...
> >> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
> >> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
> >> | they would be fired," he added.
> >> |
> >> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
> >> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
> >> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
> >> | error."
> >> | ...
> >> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
> >>
> >>     --bks
> >>
> >> They're DUI hires.
> > 
> > I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
> > there were any plans discussed in the chat.
> I love that you think they were only talking about the NCAA basketball tournament.

Nothing classified was discussed.

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#1178628

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-26 18:20 -0700
Message-ID<vs295a$30pqc$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1178555
On 26/3/25 8:50, Clave wrote:
> On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com
>> (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>>>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>>>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>>>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>>>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>>>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>>>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>>>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>>>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
>>>
>>> |
>>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
>>>
>>> |
>>> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
>>> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
>>> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
>>> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
>>> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
>>> | ...
>>> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
>>> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
>>> | they would be fired," he added.
>>> |
>>> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>>> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>>> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>>> | error."
>>> | ...
>>> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
>>>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>>>
>>> They're DUI hires.
>>
>> I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
>> there were any plans discussed in the chat.
> I love that you think they were only talking about the NCAA
> basketball tournament.

Everyone can point to transcripts, but unperson would point out 
it is paywalled, incomplete, inaccurate, his dog ate the url, and 
nobody told him anything.

I know nuffink! nuffink!

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#1178556

FromChris Voigtlander <jacque.idiot.pal@number.2>
Date2025-03-26 08:52 -0700
Message-ID<lpVEP.1299224$FVcd.367157@fx10.iad>
In reply to#1178517
On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
>>
>> |
>> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
>>
>> |
>> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
>> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
>> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
>> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
>> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
>> | ...
>> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
>> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
>> | they would be fired," he added.
>> |
>> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>> | error."
>> | ...
>> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
>>
>>     --bks
>>
>> They're DUI hires.
> 
> I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
> there were any plans discussed in the chat.

Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.

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#1178559

FromSkeeter <none@none.com>
Date2025-03-26 10:14 -0600
Message-ID<MPG.424dd5d2c4c196ee989746@usnews.blocknews.net>
In reply to#1178556
In article <lpVEP.1299224$FVcd.367157@fx10.iad>, 
jacque.idiot.pal@number.2 says...
> 
> On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> > Sherman) wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
> >>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
> >>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
> >>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
> >>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
> >>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
> >>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
> >>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
> >>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
> >>
> >> |
> >> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
> >> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
> >> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
> >> | ...
> >> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
> >>
> >> |
> >> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
> >> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
> >> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
> >> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
> >> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
> >> | ...
> >> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
> >> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
> >> | they would be fired," he added.
> >> |
> >> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
> >> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
> >> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
> >> | error."
> >> | ...
> >> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
> >>
> >>     --bks
> >>
> >> They're DUI hires.
> > 
> > I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
> > there were any plans discussed in the chat.
> 
> Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.

Nothing classified. 

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#1178602

Frompothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Date2025-03-26 22:45 +0000
Message-ID<vs201f$2lkq2$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1178559
On 2025-03-26, Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote:
> In article <lpVEP.1299224$FVcd.367157@fx10.iad>, 
> jacque.idiot.pal@number.2 says...
>> 
>> On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> > Sherman) wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>> >>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>> >>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>> >>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>> >>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>> >>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>> >>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>> >>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>> >>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
>> >>
>> >> |
>> >> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>> >> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>> >> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
>> >> | ...
>> >> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
>> >>
>> >> |
>> >> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
>> >> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
>> >> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
>> >> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
>> >> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
>> >> | ...
>> >> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
>> >> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
>> >> | they would be fired," he added.
>> >> |
>> >> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>> >> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>> >> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>> >> | error."
>> >> | ...
>> >> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
>> >>
>> >>     --bks
>> >>
>> >> They're DUI hires.
>> > 
>> > I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
>> > there were any plans discussed in the chat.
>> 
>> Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
>
> Nothing classified. 

And the attacks were executed perfectly as designed.
That's the part the libbys leave out.


-- 
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Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
Treat it accordingly
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#1178679

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-03-27 07:11 -0400
Message-ID<5fcaujh4mg6l192j05re65r1b91et2rgh8@4ax.com>
In reply to#1178602
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:45:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2025-03-26, Skeeter <none@none.com> wrote:
>> In article <lpVEP.1299224$FVcd.367157@fx10.iad>, 
>> jacque.idiot.pal@number.2 says...
>>> 
>>> On 3/26/2025 4:32 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:35:43 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>>> > Sherman) wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >>>>> | Because let's be clear ... This is damaging stuff for the
>>> >>>>> | Trump administration. As a story, Signalgate is more than
>>> >>>>> | just a serious breach of national security. It's colorful,
>>> >>>>> | it's visual, it's easy to understand and it raises the most
>>> >>>>> | dangerous charge of all for any government -- one of rank
>>> >>>>> | incompetence. (They discussed military secrets in a group
>>> >>>>> | chat? They accidentally invited a journalist to join the
>>> >>>>> | group, and didn't notice? These guys are running the
>>> >>>>> | country?) Yeah, it's a bad one.
>>> >>
>>> >> |
>>> >> | My high-level takeaway is "what you see is what you get.
>>> >> | These guys might look like idiots, and talk like idiots,
>>> >> | but don't let that fool you: they really are idiots.
>>> >> | ...
>>> >> <https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-worst-and-the-dimmest>
>>> >>
>>> >> |
>>> >> | Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate
>>> >> | Intelligence Committee, criticized the Trump administration
>>> >> | for using a Signal group to discuss plans for carrying out
>>> >> | bombing in Yemen, calling on officials to resign and saying
>>> >> | others would have been fired for the same actions.
>>> >> | ...
>>> >> | "If this was the case of a military officer or an
>>> >> | intelligence officer and they had this kind of behavior,
>>> >> | they would be fired," he added.
>>> >> |
>>> >> | "This is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless,
>>> >> | incompetent behavior, particularly towards classified
>>> >> | information, that this is not a one-off or a first-time
>>> >> | error."
>>> >> | ...
>>> >> <https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5212589-warner-hegseth-waltz-intel-group-chat/>
>>> >>
>>> >>     --bks
>>> >>
>>> >> They're DUI hires.
>>> > 
>>> > I love that you take the word of a reporter from the Atlantic that
>>> > there were any plans discussed in the chat.
>>> 
>>> Top secret plans for military strikes on Yemen is what they were discussing.
>>
>> Nothing classified. 
>
>And the attacks were executed perfectly as designed.
>That's the part the libbys leave out.

That's why they're inventing this non-story - to avoid giving Trump
credit for good work.

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