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  Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-02-23 14:55 +0000
    Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-23 10:45 -0500
    Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Operate Fag Free! Trump 2025 <trump2025@127.0.0.1> - 2025-02-23 22:34 +0100
    Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-02-24 02:47 +0000
      Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-23 22:02 -0500
        Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-02-23 21:51 -0800
        Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-02-24 13:53 +0000
        Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-24 16:46 +0000
          Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-02-24 18:38 +0000
            Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-02 23:48 -0700
          Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-02-24 17:46 -0800
    Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-24 07:13 -0500
      Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-25 07:13 -0500
        Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 11:54 -0800
          Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-26 07:10 -0500
            Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-27 07:13 -0500
              Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-02-28 12:49 +0000
                Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-01 09:26 -0500
                  Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-02 09:29 -0500
                    Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-02 06:43 -0800
                      Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-03 07:03 -0500
                        Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 04:17 -0800
                          Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-04 09:58 -0500
                            Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-04 07:28 -0800
                              Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-05 06:47 -0500

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#1175104 — Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Commit War Crimes

 | 
 | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
 | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
 | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
 | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
 | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>

    --bks

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#1175108

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
> | ...
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>

    In his book, “The War on Warriors,” which was published last year, Mr.
    Hegseth castigates military lawyers for imposing overly restrictive rules
    of engagement on frontline troops, which he argues repeatedly allowed the
    enemy to score battlefield victories.

    Mr. Hegseth derisively refers to the lawyers in the book as “jagoffs.” The
    term led Senator Jack Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island and a West Point
    graduate, to ask Mr. Hegseth at a confirmation hearing whether he could
    effectively lead the military after disparaging it.

    Mr. Hegseth’s account of this period in his book and his Senate testimony
    conflict with how battlefield rules of engagement were set during the wars.
    Senior officers in Iraq and Afghanistan, such as Gen. David H. Petraeus,
    came to believe that civilian deaths were turning the local population
    against U.S. forces and feeding the enemy’s ranks. So these officers
    emphasized protecting civilian life even if it meant that U.S. troops might
    have to incur greater risk.

    Ultimately, the rules belonged to battlefield leaders and not their
    military lawyers. The axiom — “lawyers advise, and commanders decide” — is
    a core piece of every military lawyer’s education, current and former JAG
    officers said.

Fraggle Rock coming?

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#1175126 — Re: Trump Prepares The U.S. Military To Operate Fag Free!

On 23 Feb 2025, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) posted some
news:vpfcsh$ebf$1@panix3.panix.com: 

> | 
> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents 

getting rid of the faggots who divide and weaken American military 
organizations.

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#1175153

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:vpfcsh$ebf$1@panix3.panix.com: 

> | 
> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
> | ...
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-militar
> y-lawyers-jag.html> 
> 
>     --bks


    Remember when Trump tried to overturn
a court martial of a soldier for killing
civilians? 

    As if President Bone Spurs knows the
first thing about rules of engagement or
the UCMJ..........

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#1175156

KICK ASS !!!

We do NOT need a very "sensitive" military - the kind
that agonizes more about 'collateral damage' and 'optics'
than about the actual deadly ENEMY.

You use the military when BAD opponents show up. Kick
their asses and don't apologize afterwards.

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#1175172

c186282 wrote:
> We do NOT need a very "sensitive" military - the kind
> that agonizes more about 'collateral damage' and 'optics'
> than about the actual deadly ENEMY.

We need to retroactively pardon everyone convicted in Nuremberg. I 
was just following orders is a valid excuse.

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#1175222

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in news:YMqdnXsv4
_WsfCb6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> KICK ASS !!!
> 
> We do NOT need a very "sensitive" military - the kind
> that agonizes more about 'collateral damage' and 'optics'
> than about the actual deadly ENEMY.


     What "enemy"?

     Iraq never attacked America. 

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#1175235

On 2025-02-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> KICK ASS !!!
>
> We do NOT need a very "sensitive" military - the kind
> that agonizes more about 'collateral damage' and 'optics'
> than about the actual deadly ENEMY.
>
> You use the military when BAD opponents show up. Kick
> their asses and don't apologize afterwards.

The problem with democrats is they send people to war to
fight the enemy and then put huge restrictions on what they can do
effectively hamstringing them.

"Hi Mr. enemy, do you give me permission to shoot you?"
And BS like that.

If you go to war, the object is to win not to play checkers with the enemy.


-- 
pothead

Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
Read below to learn the reason.
The Biden Crime Family Timeline here:
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

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#1175252

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vpi7or$16snb$6@dont-email.me: 

> On 2025-02-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> KICK ASS !!!
>>
>> We do NOT need a very "sensitive" military - the kind
>> that agonizes more about 'collateral damage' and 'optics'
>> than about the actual deadly ENEMY.
>>
>> You use the military when BAD opponents show up. Kick
>> their asses and don't apologize afterwards.
> 
> The problem with democrats is they send people to war to
> fight the enemy and then put huge restrictions on what they can do
> effectively hamstringing them.


     Democrats don't send people
to war, for the last 50 years that 
is strictly a Republican thing. 


> 
> "Hi Mr. enemy, do you give me permission to shoot you?"
> And BS like that.
> 
> If you go to war, the object is to win not to play checkers with the
> enemy. 


    What did America "win" from the 
GOP-started Iraq war?

    What did America "win" from the 
GOP-started Afghanistan war?

    What did America "win" from the 
GOP-started Panama war? 

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#1176025

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> On 2025-02-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> KICK ASS !!!
>>>
>>> We do NOT need a very "sensitive" military - the kind
>>> that agonizes more about 'collateral damage' and 'optics'
>>> than about the actual deadly ENEMY.
>>>
>>> You use the military when BAD opponents show up. Kick
>>> their asses and don't apologize afterwards.
>>
>> The problem with democrats is they send people to war to
>> fight the enemy and then put huge restrictions on what they can do
>> effectively hamstringing them.
> 
>       Democrats don't send people
> to war, for the last 50 years that
> is strictly a Republican thing.

Zing!

>> "Hi Mr. enemy, do you give me permission to shoot you?"
>> And BS like that.
>>
>> If you go to war, the object is to win not to play checkers with the
>> enemy.
> 
> 
>      What did America "win" from the
> GOP-started Iraq war?
> 
>      What did America "win" from the
> GOP-started Afghanistan war?
> 
>      What did America "win" from the
> GOP-started Panama war?

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#1175293

pothead wrote:
> "Hi Mr. enemy, do you give me permission to shoot you?"
> And BS like that.
> 
> If you go to war, the object is to win not to play checkers with the enemy.

USA and Germany mostly avoided war crimes 1944 and 1945. Germans 
were willing to surrender. A lot of people died from Normandy to 
Ruhr, but unlike in the east, the USA was not recruiting for NSDAP.

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#1175221

On 23 Feb 2025 14:55:13 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:

> | 
> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>
>
>    --bks

Since you quoted paywalled nonsense, perhaps you'd care to quote from
it where Trump is adovcating war crimes?

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#1175330

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 07:13:22 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On 23 Feb 2025 14:55:13 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>wrote:
>
>> | 
>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>> | ...
>><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>
>>
>>    --bks
>
>Since you quoted paywalled nonsense, perhaps you'd care to quote from
>it where Trump is adovcating war crimes?

Once again the commie troll has fled.

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#1175378

NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 07:13:22 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 23 Feb 2025 14:55:13 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> |
>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>>
>> Since you quoted paywalled nonsense, perhaps you'd care to quote from
>> it where Trump is adovcating war crimes?
> 
> Once again the commie troll has fled.
> 

'less hindered by the laws of armed conflict'

Too many big words.

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#1175454

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 11:54:15 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 07:13:22 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23 Feb 2025 14:55:13 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> |
>>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>>>> | ...
>>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>
>>>>
>>>>     --bks
>>>
>>> Since you quoted paywalled nonsense, perhaps you'd care to quote from
>>> it where Trump is adovcating war crimes?
>> 
>> Once again the commie troll has fled.
>> 
>
>'less hindered by the laws of armed conflict'
>
>Too many big words.

Ok.  So you can you can use words of whatever size you'd like to
answer the question that Bradley ran from.

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#1175616

On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:10:29 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 11:54:15 -0800, Siri Cruise
><chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>NoBody wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 07:13:22 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Feb 2025 14:55:13 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>>>>> | ...
>>>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/22/us/politics/hegseth-firings-military-lawyers-jag.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>     --bks
>>>>
>>>> Since you quoted paywalled nonsense, perhaps you'd care to quote from
>>>> it where Trump is adovcating war crimes?
>>> 
>>> Once again the commie troll has fled.
>>> 
>>
>>'less hindered by the laws of armed conflict'
>>
>>Too many big words.
>
>Ok.  So you can you can use words of whatever size you'd like to
>answer the question that Bradley ran from.

Yeah I didn't think so.

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#1175735

>>>>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>>>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>>>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>>>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>>>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.

 | 
 | Trump eases rules on military raids and airstrikes,
 | expanding range of who can be targeted
 | ...
<https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-eases-rules-military-raids-airstrikes-targets/>

    --bks

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#1175867

On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:49:05 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>>>>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>>>>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>>>>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>>>>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>
> | 
> | Trump eases rules on military raids and airstrikes,
> | expanding range of who can be targeted
> | ...
><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-eases-rules-military-raids-airstrikes-targets/>
>
>    --bks


And this is a war crime how?

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#1175984

On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:26:03 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:49:05 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>>>>>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>>>>>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>>>>>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>>>>>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>>
>> | 
>> | Trump eases rules on military raids and airstrikes,
>> | expanding range of who can be targeted
>> | ...
>><https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-eases-rules-military-raids-airstrikes-targets/>
>>
>>    --bks
>
>
>And this is a war crime how?

Bradley is unable to answer a simple question...

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#1175990

NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:26:03 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:49:05 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> Sherman) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> | Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to fire the top
>>>>>>>>> | lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force represents an
>>>>>>>>> | opening salvo in his push to remake the military into a
>>>>>>>>> | force that is more aggressive on the battlefield and
>>>>>>>>> | potentially less hindered by the laws of armed conflict.
>>>
>>> |
>>> | Trump eases rules on military raids and airstrikes,
>>> | expanding range of who can be targeted
>>> | ...
>>> <https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-eases-rules-military-raids-airstrikes-targets/>
>>>
>>>     --bks
>>
>>
>> And this is a war crime how?
> 
> Bradley is unable to answer a simple question...
> 

Who are we at war with?

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