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| Started by | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| First post | 2025-11-23 09:09 -0500 |
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Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-11-23 09:09 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-11-24 08:57 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-11-25 08:19 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-11-25 13:26 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-11-26 08:47 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-11-26 14:04 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-11-26 14:09 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-11-26 09:28 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-11-26 14:32 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-11-26 09:39 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Elendil <horchata12839@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 10:27 -0600
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 21:26 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-11-30 02:23 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 03:59 -0600
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-11-30 15:20 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-11-30 12:09 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-11-30 19:16 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-11-30 14:53 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-12-01 02:56 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-11-30 22:20 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 22:07 -0600
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-12-01 14:54 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> - 2025-12-01 10:57 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-12-10 13:07 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-12-15 13:39 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 18:26 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:11 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 18:25 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 16:18 -0600
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 13:08 -0600
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-12-01 02:58 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-11-27 09:20 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Steve Benen <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-11-27 11:02 -0800
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:50 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-11-29 04:57 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-16 03:54 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 17:13 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-12-23 16:09 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-12-24 06:54 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-12-25 09:46 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-12-30 14:21 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 11:05 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-30 11:54 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-30 14:32 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:48 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-12-31 16:41 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-31 19:25 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-01 01:54 -0800
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-01-01 19:18 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-01-20 21:06 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-01-21 13:31 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-12-31 16:44 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-12-31 07:42 -0500
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-31 17:46 +0000
Re: DOGE Cost More Than It Saved NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-11-28 09:38 -0500
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| From | Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-30 22:07 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mp4ik8Fk8ufU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1205034 |
Collectivists_Always_Fail wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 02:56:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> > wrote: > >> Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >> news:c38piktr80vpncfce12u57vjgermoc71tm@4ax.com: >> >>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:16:02 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>> news:78uoiktsbhhgaddj2djg4418p9haep5krh@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:20:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>>>> news:0rrnik9er0keies57a1h4cp4t6csmuobuk@4ax.com: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:26:54 -0500, Governor Swill >>>>>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:28:06 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail >>>>>>>> <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley >> K. >>>>>>>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_expe >>>>>>>>>>>> ri ment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning >>>>>>>>>> author Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --bks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sheesh! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve Benen is a producer of the MSNBC Rachel Maddow show. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... whose article was curated and pointed to by the right wing >> site, >>>>>>>> Realclearmarkets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe so.. he's still a leftist.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Trump's approval rating is underwater by 24 points. >>>>>>>> <https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It doesn't matter. He's still going to do what he said he was going >>>>>>> to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will release my taxes"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will lock her up"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Llie his "I will lower grocery prices"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will end the Ukraine war"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will cut energy prices in half"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will eliminate the national debt"? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You guys are sooo gullible............ >>>>> >>>>> I stand with the majority of voters, Dummy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Evasion noted. Trump keeps lying and >>>> you keep falling for it. >>> >>> >>> Evasion of what, Dummy? >> >> >> The proven Trump lies you fell for, listed above. >> >> > > <LOL> Hollowhead think's his opinions are proven..... Agent Kooyan, what I knew is these men would never fall down, never bend over for anyone.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-01 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB3A8583891EB5629555@185.151.15.160> |
| In reply to | #1205034 |
Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in news:va2qikdgjj7dqrio2lolp172btnvd0pkb5@4ax.com: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 02:56:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> > wrote: > >>Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>news:c38piktr80vpncfce12u57vjgermoc71tm@4ax.com: >> >>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:16:02 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>>news:78uoiktsbhhgaddj2djg4418p9haep5krh@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:20:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>>>>news:0rrnik9er0keies57a1h4cp4t6csmuobuk@4ax.com: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:26:54 -0500, Governor Swill >>>>>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:28:06 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail >>>>>>>><MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley >>K. >>>>>>>>>Sherman) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >><https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_expe >>>>>>>>>>>>ri ment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning >>>>>>>>>>author Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --bks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Sheesh! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Steve Benen is a producer of the MSNBC Rachel Maddow show. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>... whose article was curated and pointed to by the right wing >>site, >>>>>>>>Realclearmarkets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe so.. he's still a leftist.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Trump's approval rating is underwater by 24 points. >>>>>>>><https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It doesn't matter. He's still going to do what he said he was going >>>>>>> to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will release my taxes"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will lock her up"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Llie his "I will lower grocery prices"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will end the Ukraine war"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will cut energy prices in half"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Like his "I will eliminate the national debt"? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You guys are sooo gullible............ >>>>> >>>>> I stand with the majority of voters, Dummy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Evasion noted. Trump keeps lying and >>>>you keep falling for it. >>> >>> >>> Evasion of what, Dummy? >> >> >> The proven Trump lies you fell for, listed above. >> >> > > <LOL> Hollowhead think's his opinions are proven..... Trump's quotes listed above ARE proven, you just cannot defend them. Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years 04/02/16 https://tinyurl.com/y8ggzn4c May 20 2014: Trump says that if he runs for office, he will absolutely release his tax returns, in an interview with Ireland’s TV3. http://tinyurl.com/j6nvjls Trump pledged to bring down food prices on Day One. January 28, 2025 https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/28/economy/trump-inflation-price-promises
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| From | Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> |
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| Date | 2025-12-01 10:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6gerikpqshoasp1hlkhqfnm0co6nfl3tlp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1205093 |
On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 14:54:22 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote: >Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >news:va2qikdgjj7dqrio2lolp172btnvd0pkb5@4ax.com: > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2025 02:56:29 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>news:c38piktr80vpncfce12u57vjgermoc71tm@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:16:02 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>>>news:78uoiktsbhhgaddj2djg4418p9haep5krh@4ax.com: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:20:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman ><noemail@aol.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>>>>>>news:0rrnik9er0keies57a1h4cp4t6csmuobuk@4ax.com: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:26:54 -0500, Governor Swill >>>>>>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:28:06 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail >>>>>>>>><MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley >>>K. >>>>>>>>>>Sherman) wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>>>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>><https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_expe >>>>>>>>>>>>>ri ment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning >>>>>>>>>>>author Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing >site. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --bks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Sheesh! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Steve Benen is a producer of the MSNBC Rachel Maddow show. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>... whose article was curated and pointed to by the right wing >>>site, >>>>>>>>>Realclearmarkets. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe so.. he's still a leftist.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Trump's approval rating is underwater by 24 points. >>>>>>>>><https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It doesn't matter. He's still going to do what he said he was >going >>>>>>>> to do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like his "I will release my taxes"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like his "I will lock her up"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Llie his "I will lower grocery prices"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like his "I will end the Ukraine war"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like his "I will cut energy prices in half"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like his "I will eliminate the national debt"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You guys are sooo gullible............ >>>>>> >>>>>> I stand with the majority of voters, Dummy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Evasion noted. Trump keeps lying and >>>>>you keep falling for it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Evasion of what, Dummy? >>> >>> >>> The proven Trump lies you fell for, listed above. >>> >>> >> >> <LOL> Hollowhead think's his opinions are proven..... > > >Trump's quotes listed above ARE proven, >you just cannot defend them. > > > > > >Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years >04/02/16 >https://tinyurl.com/y8ggzn4c > > > > >May 20 2014: Trump says that if he runs for >office, he will absolutely release his >tax returns, in an interview with Ireland’s >TV3. >http://tinyurl.com/j6nvjls > > > > >Trump pledged to bring down food prices on Day One. >January 28, 2025 >https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/28/economy/trump-inflation-price-promises > <LOL> Out of context nonsense from leftist web sites.... __ People who engage in activities they call "civil disobedience are doing the exact opposite of disobedience. They are trying to make other people obey their demands.
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-12-10 13:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hbrbc$h75$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1205034 |
>>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang
>>> | Social Security whistleblower quits after saying Americans'
>>> | data was compromised
|
| Musk says DOGE was only "somewhat successful," wouldn't do
| it again
| ...
<https://www.axios.com/2025/12/09/musk-doge-katie-miller-trump-doge>
Translated from Elon "Puffery Is Me" Musk that means "complete failure."
--bks
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 13:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10hp32q$hus$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1205920 |
> | Musk says DOGE was only "somewhat successful," wouldn't do
> | it again
> ...
>Translated from Elon "Puffery Is Me" Musk that means "complete failure."
|
| 'I Didn't Vote for This': A Revolt Against DOGE Cuts, Deep
| in Trump Country
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/12/15/doge-cuts-donald-trump-montana-00681695>
--bks
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| From | marika <marika5000@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MpY%Q.68747$0PAa.43346@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #1206368 |
Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote: >> | Musk says DOGE was only "somewhat successful," wouldn't do >> | it again >> ... >> Translated from Elon "Puffery Is Me" Musk that means "complete failure." > > | > | 'I Didn't Vote for This': A Revolt Against DOGE Cuts, Deep > | in Trump Country > | ... > <https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/12/15/doge-cuts-donald-trump-montana-00681695> > > --bks > Here we go!
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 22:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mnudnSJr3LZrUN30nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1206417 |
On 12/15/25 13:26, marika wrote: > Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote: >>> | Musk says DOGE was only "somewhat successful," wouldn't do >>> | it again >>> ... >>> Translated from Elon "Puffery Is Me" Musk that means "complete failure." >> >> | >> | 'I Didn't Vote for This': A Revolt Against DOGE Cuts, Deep >> | in Trump Country >> | ... >> <https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/12/15/doge-cuts-donald-trump-montana-00681695> >> >> --bks >> > > > Here we go! A "DOGE" should come into being every ten years by law. FLUSH THE SHIT !!!
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| From | marika <marika5000@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ToY%Q.104313$Dklb.77971@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #1205920 |
Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang > >>>> | Social Security whistleblower quits after saying Americans' >>>> | data was compromised > > | > | Musk says DOGE was only "somewhat successful," wouldn't do > | it again > | ... > <https://www.axios.com/2025/12/09/musk-doge-katie-miller-trump-doge> > > Translated from Elon "Puffery Is Me" Musk that means "complete failure." > > --bks > Trump makes huge mistakes Looks like a disaster coming with no workers in place to fix any problem
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| From | Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-30 16:18 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mp3u64FgvcbU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1204975 |
Mitchell Holman wrote: > Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in > news:78uoiktsbhhgaddj2djg4418p9haep5krh@4ax.com: > >> On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 15:20:27 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >>> news:0rrnik9er0keies57a1h4cp4t6csmuobuk@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:26:54 -0500, Governor Swill >>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:28:06 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail >>>>> <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_expe >>>>>>>>> ri ment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning >>>>>>> author Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --bks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sheesh! >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Benen is a producer of the MSNBC Rachel Maddow show. >>>>> >>>>> ... whose article was curated and pointed to by the right wing site, >>>>> Realclearmarkets. >>>>> >>>> Maybe so.. he's still a leftist.. >>>> >>>>> Trump's approval rating is underwater by 24 points. >>>>> <https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls> >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter. He's still going to do what he said he was going >>>> to do. >>> >>> >>> Like his "I will release my taxes"? >>> >>> Like his "I will lock her up"? >>> >>> Llie his "I will lower grocery prices"? >>> >>> Like his "I will end the Ukraine war"? >>> >>> Like his "I will cut energy prices in half"? >>> >>> Like his "I will eliminate the national debt"? >>> >>> >>> You guys are sooo gullible............ >> >> I stand with the majority of voters, Dummy > > > > Evasion noted. Trump keeps lying and > you keep falling for it. This is necessary. Donald Trump's education allows for his superiority over them. Are you pointing to some moral high ground that says manipulation or persuasion are off-limits in this exchange? If so, what is it?
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| From | Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-30 13:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mp3j28Ff7esU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1204950 |
Mitchell Holman wrote: > Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in > news:0rrnik9er0keies57a1h4cp4t6csmuobuk@4ax.com: > >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:26:54 -0500, Governor Swill >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:28:06 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail >>> <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_experi >>>>>>> ment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>> >>>>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning >>>>> author Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>>> >>>>> --bks >>>>> >>>>> Sheesh! >>>> >>>> Steve Benen is a producer of the MSNBC Rachel Maddow show. >>> >>> ... whose article was curated and pointed to by the right wing site, >>> Realclearmarkets. >>> >> Maybe so.. he's still a leftist.. >> >>> Trump's approval rating is underwater by 24 points. >>> <https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls> >> >> It doesn't matter. He's still going to do what he said he was going to >> do. > > > Like his "I will release my taxes"? > > Like his "I will lock her up"? > > Llie his "I will lower grocery prices"? > > Like his "I will end the Ukraine war"? Evidently there's some progress. Zelenskyy is becoming more interested in the process. > Like his "I will cut energy prices in half"? > > Like his "I will eliminate the national debt"? > > > You guys are sooo gullible............ > > >>> Perhaps the apparent leftward drift by RCP is an indicator of the >>> disintegration of the right by their disappointment with their >>> candidates and chosen party. >> >> Did you not notice that Democrats who won in Virginia and New Jersey >> csmpaigned on lowering crime and taxes? > > > All candidates campaign on lowering > crime and better schools and lower taxes > and cutting "waste" and better public > service. > > Sheesh. > > >
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-01 02:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB3A7D30CC40A8629555@185.151.15.190> |
| In reply to | #1204972 |
Elendil Wadwallow <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:mp3j28Ff7esU6@mid.individual.net: > Mitchell Holman wrote: >> Collectivists_Always_Fail <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote in >> news:0rrnik9er0keies57a1h4cp4t6csmuobuk@4ax.com: >> >>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2025 21:26:54 -0500, Governor Swill >>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 09:28:06 -0500, Collectivists_Always_Fail >>>> <MeanDog@stonewall.Dash> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley >>>>> K. Sherman) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_exp >>>>>>>> eri ment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>>> >>>>>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning >>>>>> author Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>>>> >>>>>> --bks >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheesh! >>>>> >>>>> Steve Benen is a producer of the MSNBC Rachel Maddow show. >>>> >>>> ... whose article was curated and pointed to by the right wing >>>> site, Realclearmarkets. >>>> >>> Maybe so.. he's still a leftist.. >>> >>>> Trump's approval rating is underwater by 24 points. >>>> <https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls> >>> >>> It doesn't matter. He's still going to do what he said he was going >>> to do. >> >> >> Like his "I will release my taxes"? >> >> Like his "I will lock her up"? >> >> Llie his "I will lower grocery prices"? >> >> Like his "I will end the Ukraine war"? > > Evidently there's some progress. Zelenskyy is becoming more interested > in the process. The Trump "Surrender to Putin like I told you" process? >> Like his "I will cut energy prices in half"? >> >> Like his "I will eliminate the national debt"? >> >> >> You guys are sooo gullible............ >> >> >>>> Perhaps the apparent leftward drift by RCP is an indicator of the >>>> disintegration of the right by their disappointment with their >>>> candidates and chosen party. >>> >>> Did you not notice that Democrats who won in Virginia and New Jersey >>> csmpaigned on lowering crime and taxes? >> >> >> All candidates campaign on lowering >> crime and better schools and lower taxes >> and cutting "waste" and better public >> service. >> >> Sheesh. >> >> >> > >
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| From | NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 09:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <aengik166rb3se036u8ee4j5r3rkjv4nl9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1204442 |
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote: >Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> ... >>> | >>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>> | ... >>><https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_experiment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >> ... >>It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? > >FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning author >Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. > > --bks > >Sheesh! My error. It was published on the Rachel Maddow web site. https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-white-houses-failed-doge-experiment-ends-with-a-whimper-not-a-bang How about you admit to the lies and errors you've been caught in? Not possible.
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| From | Steve Benen <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-27 11:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vf1WQ.5126$F2f1.1246@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #1204570 |
On 11/27/2025 6:20 AM, NoBody wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. > Sherman) wrote: > >> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> ... >>>> | >>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>> | ... >>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/the_failed_doge_experiment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>> ... >>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >> >> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning author >> Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >> >> --bks >> >> Sheesh! > > My error. It was published on the Rachel Maddow web site. > > https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-white-houses-failed-doge-experiment-ends-with-a-whimper-not-a-bang > > > How about you admit to the lies and errors you've been caught in? You've never "caught" him in any.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-28 23:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <Ux2cnVp3W8Y75rf0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1204617 |
On 11/27/25 14:02, Steve Benen wrote: > On 11/27/2025 6:20 AM, NoBody wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >> Sherman) wrote: >> >>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>> ... >>>>> | >>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>> | ... >>>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/ >>>>> the_failed_doge_experiment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>> ... >>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>> >>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning author >>> Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>> >>> --bks >>> >>> Sheesh! >> >> My error. It was published on the Rachel Maddow web site. >> >> https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-white-houses- >> failed-doge-experiment-ends-with-a-whimper-not-a-bang >> >> >> How about you admit to the lies and errors you've been caught in? > > You've never "caught" him in any. Ignore expenses ... DOGE was a very *good idea* and should be REPEATED maybe every 10 years to sweep out the bullshit.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-29 04:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10gdufd$32ond$1@pothead.dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1204753 |
On 2025-11-29, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > On 11/27/25 14:02, Steve Benen wrote: >> On 11/27/2025 6:20 AM, NoBody wrote: >>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>> Sherman) wrote: >>> >>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>>> | >>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>> | ... >>>>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/ >>>>>> the_failed_doge_experiment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>> ... >>>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>> >>>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning author >>>> Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>> >>>> --bks >>>> >>>> Sheesh! >>> >>> My error. It was published on the Rachel Maddow web site. >>> >>> https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-white-houses- >>> failed-doge-experiment-ends-with-a-whimper-not-a-bang >>> >>> >>> How about you admit to the lies and errors you've been caught in? >> >> You've never "caught" him in any. > > Ignore expenses ... DOGE was a very *good idea* > and should be REPEATED maybe every 10 years to > sweep out the bullshit. > First of all it's front loaded meaning the savings will take time to kick in. Secondly, if anything, DOGE exposed the slimy underbelly of the left. Their slush funds, over duplicated programs and wasteful, no accountability aid was uncovered. USAID and DOE are just 2 examples. -- pothead Give a Democrat a fish and he'll eat all day. Teach a Democrat to fish and...... He'll steal your rod Take your wallet Assault the fish & Blame Trump.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-16 03:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <NWednRztSZPZg9z0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1204754 |
On 11/28/25 23:57, pothead wrote: > On 2025-11-29, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> On 11/27/25 14:02, Steve Benen wrote: >>> On 11/27/2025 6:20 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 14:04:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >>>> Sherman) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >>>>>>> | ... >>>>>>> <https://www.realclearmarkets.com/2025/11/25/ >>>>>>> the_failed_doge_experiment_ends_with_whimper_not_bang_1149422.html> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> It links to an article written by Rachel Maddow??? >>>>> >>>>> FFS, KG. Stop making shit up. It was written by award-winning author >>>>> Steve Benen. BTW, RealClearMarkets is a right-wing site. >>>>> >>>>> --bks >>>>> >>>>> Sheesh! >>>> >>>> My error. It was published on the Rachel Maddow web site. >>>> >>>> https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/the-white-houses- >>>> failed-doge-experiment-ends-with-a-whimper-not-a-bang >>>> >>>> >>>> How about you admit to the lies and errors you've been caught in? >>> >>> You've never "caught" him in any. >> >> Ignore expenses ... DOGE was a very *good idea* >> and should be REPEATED maybe every 10 years to >> sweep out the bullshit. >> > > First of all it's front loaded meaning the savings will take time > to kick in. > > Secondly, if anything, DOGE exposed the slimy underbelly of the > left. Their slush funds, over duplicated programs and wasteful, > no accountability aid was uncovered. > > USAID and DOE are just 2 examples. Quite true. However the 'right' may have similar slush funds - more likely involving the military-industrial complex. At least that money is more likely to 'stay at home'. What was the insightful little movie line ... "You don't think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $10,000 on a toilet seat, do you ?" In any case, a close incarnation of DOGE really SHOULD be mandated every ten years. Govt, its agencies, its projects, will ALWAYS get larger and more expensive and much more STUPID. So ... gotta bring in the Grim Reaper every so often.
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| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-17 17:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uka6kkptt73lunm0te3ene50kbur50asbb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1206492 |
On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 03:54:28 -0500, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > In any case, a close incarnation of DOGE really SHOULD > be mandated every ten years. Govt, its agencies, its > projects, will ALWAYS get larger and more expensive and > much more STUPID. So ... gotta bring in the Grim Reaper > every so often. But with a scalpel, not a chain saw. -- Donald Trump murdered the penny! 012020298647
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| From | bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) |
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| Date | 2025-12-23 16:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10iees1$cq5$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1206492 |
>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang
|
| Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency said it
| made more than 29,000 cuts to the federal government --
| slashing billion-dollar contracts, canceling thousands of
| grants and pushing out civil servants.
|
| But the group did not do what Mr. Musk said it would:
| reduce federal spending by $1 trillion before October. On
| DOGE's watch, federal spending did not go down at all. It
| went up.
|
| How is that possible?
|
| One big reason, according to a New York Times analysis:
| Many of the largest savings that DOGE claimed turned out to
| be wrong.
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/politics/doge-musk-trump-analysis.html>
--bks
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| From | NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-24 06:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t0lnkkl7m20797gkjusbr5p4b157nhqolh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1207165 |
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 16:09:37 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote: >>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang > > | > | Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency said it > | made more than 29,000 cuts to the federal government -- > | slashing billion-dollar contracts, canceling thousands of > | grants and pushing out civil servants. > | > | But the group did not do what Mr. Musk said it would: > | reduce federal spending by $1 trillion before October. On > | DOGE's watch, federal spending did not go down at all. It > | went up. > | > | How is that possible? > | > | One big reason, according to a New York Times analysis: > | Many of the largest savings that DOGE claimed turned out to > | be wrong. > | ... ><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/politics/doge-musk-trump-analysis.html> > > --bks Paywalled crap stolen by Bradley noted. Mandatory spending on social programs (which DOGE could not touch) was responsible for the increase. You fraud.
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| From | NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-25 09:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <fijqkkl6sua3qsk29b4tdv1lfoffvu0fba@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1207226 |
On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 06:54:18 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote: >On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 16:09:37 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K. >Sherman) wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> | The Failed DOGE Experiment Ends With Whimper, Not Bang >> >> | >> | Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency said it >> | made more than 29,000 cuts to the federal government -- >> | slashing billion-dollar contracts, canceling thousands of >> | grants and pushing out civil servants. >> | >> | But the group did not do what Mr. Musk said it would: >> | reduce federal spending by $1 trillion before October. On >> | DOGE's watch, federal spending did not go down at all. It >> | went up. >> | >> | How is that possible? >> | >> | One big reason, according to a New York Times analysis: >> | Many of the largest savings that DOGE claimed turned out to >> | be wrong. >> | ... >><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/23/us/politics/doge-musk-trump-analysis.html> >> >> --bks > >Paywalled crap stolen by Bradley noted. > >Mandatory spending on social programs (which DOGE could not touch) was >responsible for the increase. > >You fraud. And the fraud has run away.
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