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| First post | 2026-04-04 11:13 -0700 |
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48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-04 11:13 -0700
Re: 48 Hours c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 14:42 -0400
Re: 48 Hours - yawn. Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-12 23:10 -0600
Re: Republicans vote against medals to Capitol Police Who Shoot Unarmed Women Magyar Likes Queers <taco@hungary.now> - 2026-04-13 08:20 +0000
Re: 48 Hours Taft Resident <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2026-04-05 01:42 +0000
Re: 48 Hours marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-04-05 03:28 +0000
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-07 09:10 -0700
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-11 10:15 -0700
Re: 48 Hours marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:39 +0000
Re: 48 Hours super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2026-04-12 20:04 -0500
Re: 48 Hours Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-13 07:23 -0400
Re: 48 Hours "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-13 09:00 -0700
Re: 48 Hours Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-13 12:38 -0400
Re: 48 Hours leaches@gmail.com - 2026-04-13 23:21 +0000
Re: 48 Hours Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-14 07:10 -0400
Re: 48 Hours "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-14 08:08 -0700
Re: 48 Hours Gronk <invalidt@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-26 23:48 -0600
Re: 48 Hours Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-04-13 03:07 +0200
Re: 48 Hours Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-12 11:30 +0200
Re: 48 Hours Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-04-12 13:28 +0000
Re: 48 Hours Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-13 09:39 +0200
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-13 08:33 -0700
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-12 11:18 -0700
Re: 48 Hours Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-13 09:47 +0200
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-13 08:48 -0700
Re: 48 Hours Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2026-04-17 09:00 +0200
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-23 23:24 -0700
Re: 48 Hours The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2026-04-24 14:51 -0700
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-13 09:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n43kcjFn1fnU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1218263 |
Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 15:28 schrieb Mitchell Holman:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote in news:n416gcFbhemU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Am Samstag000011, 11.04.2026 um 19:15 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>> Come on, let's be real here...
>>>
>>> these ongoing wars between
>>> 'whatever' are
>>> just a bunch of monkeys
>>> and gorillas fighting over
>>> who gets the banana tree.
>>>
>>>
>>> planet of the apes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let me put it this way...since..
>>>> yous don't understand..
>>>> (and probably never will)
>>>>
>>>> Trump has two hands.
>>>>
>>>> What he wants, he takes.
>>>>
>>>> Trump doesn't like the way
>>>> Iran is running stuff..
>>>>
>>>> he takes it!
>>>>
>>>> It's his!
>>>>
>>>> It belongs to him.
>>>>
>>>> He OWNS it!
>>>>
>>>> Who owns Veneusula?
>>>>
>>>> Trump owns it!
>>>>
>>>> He took it.
>>>>
>>>> It belongs to him.
>>
>> In Germany, where I live, we have a civil law called 'BGB' (=
>> Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch).
>>
>> It declares, that you cannot acquire ownership, if the possession
>> ('Besitz' in German) is based upon anything illegal.
>>
>> Therefore you cannot own a stolen object, nor sell it or give it to
>> somebody else for free legally, because the stolen object remains
>> stolen, whatever you do with it.
>>
>> In the USA they have different laws, but I don't think, that armed
>> robbery is allowed there.
>
>
> The US has adverse possession laws regarding
> land, but aside from that the law is the same as
> what you describe. Even good faith buyers lose in
> court when the original owner can prove their
> claim.
>
Well, possibly they have.
But Venezuela does not belong to US-jurisdiction and only international
laws are applicable, besides from the local laws.
Hence the USA cannot allow themself to capture land, which is not theirs.
> https://share.america.gov/stolen-paintings-found-at-auction-will-be-
> returned/
>
In case of paintings (or any other movable objects) we have a problem:
only items are returned, which were illegaly removed from the owner.
But it is very difficult to prove, that the item was removed illegally
from the owner.
There are many legal methods thinkable, by which a transfer could been made:
the former owner could have thrown it away
the owner could have given it to somebody as a gift
the owner could have sold it
the owner could have given the item as security for a loan
the owner could have left it behind, after moving away
the owner could have used it to pay debts
...
If now someone wants his item back, he had to prove, that none of the
above were in fact the case.
Then we have a term in Germany called 'Verjährung'.
This means:
if someone has some object in his posession for more than thirty years
and never had the idea, that thing was stolen, but assumed to have it
legally, the real owner cannot have it back.
Therefor it is usually impossible to claim ownership after moire than 30
years in Germany, because it is very difficult to prove, that the person
having the item knew, that it was stolen.
TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-13 08:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69DD0CCA.144E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1218353 |
Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 15:28 schrieb Mitchell Holman:
> > Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote in news:n416gcFbhemU1
> > @mid.individual.net:
> >
> >> Am Samstag000011, 11.04.2026 um 19:15 schrieb The Starmaker:
> >>> Come on, let's be real here...
> >>>
> >>> these ongoing wars between
> >>> 'whatever' are
> >>> just a bunch of monkeys
> >>> and gorillas fighting over
> >>> who gets the banana tree.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> planet of the apes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me put it this way...since..
> >>>> yous don't understand..
> >>>> (and probably never will)
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump has two hands.
> >>>>
> >>>> What he wants, he takes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump doesn't like the way
> >>>> Iran is running stuff..
> >>>>
> >>>> he takes it!
> >>>>
> >>>> It's his!
> >>>>
> >>>> It belongs to him.
> >>>>
> >>>> He OWNS it!
> >>>>
> >>>> Who owns Veneusula?
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump owns it!
> >>>>
> >>>> He took it.
> >>>>
> >>>> It belongs to him.
> >>
> >> In Germany, where I live, we have a civil law called 'BGB' (=
> >> Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch).
> >>
> >> It declares, that you cannot acquire ownership, if the possession
> >> ('Besitz' in German) is based upon anything illegal.
> >>
> >> Therefore you cannot own a stolen object, nor sell it or give it to
> >> somebody else for free legally, because the stolen object remains
> >> stolen, whatever you do with it.
> >>
> >> In the USA they have different laws, but I don't think, that armed
> >> robbery is allowed there.
> >
> >
> > The US has adverse possession laws regarding
> > land, but aside from that the law is the same as
> > what you describe. Even good faith buyers lose in
> > court when the original owner can prove their
> > claim.
> >
> Well, possibly they have.
>
> But Venezuela does not belong to US-jurisdiction and only international
> laws are applicable, besides from the local laws.
>
> Hence the USA cannot allow themself to capture land, which is not theirs.
You obvisouly never heard of The Monroe Doctrine
The Monroe Doctrine is a United States foreign policy position that
opposes any foreign interference in the Western Hemisphere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine
That means anything in out western hemisphere belongs to us...next comes
Germany.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=monroe+doctrine
Now called the "Donroe Doctrine"
Trump One World Governament means...we govern Germany if we want. We
just take it....and your women!
i'm gonna make babies with your german women...
>
> > https://share.america.gov/stolen-paintings-found-at-auction-will-be-
> > returned/
> >
>
> In case of paintings (or any other movable objects) we have a problem:
>
> only items are returned, which were illegaly removed from the owner.
>
> But it is very difficult to prove, that the item was removed illegally
> from the owner.
>
> There are many legal methods thinkable, by which a transfer could been made:
>
> the former owner could have thrown it away
>
> the owner could have given it to somebody as a gift
>
> the owner could have sold it
>
> the owner could have given the item as security for a loan
>
> the owner could have left it behind, after moving away
>
> the owner could have used it to pay debts
> ...
>
> If now someone wants his item back, he had to prove, that none of the
> above were in fact the case.
>
> Then we have a term in Germany called 'Verjährung'.
>
> This means:
>
> if someone has some object in his posession for more than thirty years
> and never had the idea, that thing was stolen, but assumed to have it
> legally, the real owner cannot have it back.
>
> Therefor it is usually impossible to claim ownership after moire than 30
> years in Germany, because it is very difficult to prove, that the person
> having the item knew, that it was stolen.
>
> TH
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-12 11:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69DBE1EB.663F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1218239 |
Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am Samstag000011, 11.04.2026 um 19:15 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > Come on, let's be real here...
> >
> > these ongoing wars between
> > 'whatever' are
> > just a bunch of monkeys
> > and gorillas fighting over
> > who gets the banana tree.
> >
> >
> > planet of the apes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> Let me put it this way...since..
> >> yous don't understand..
> >> (and probably never will)
> >>
> >> Trump has two hands.
> >>
> >> What he wants, he takes.
> >>
> >> Trump doesn't like the way
> >> Iran is running stuff..
> >>
> >> he takes it!
> >>
> >> It's his!
> >>
> >> It belongs to him.
> >>
> >> He OWNS it!
> >>
> >> Who owns Veneusula?
> >>
> >> Trump owns it!
> >>
> >> He took it.
> >>
> >> It belongs to him.
>
> In Germany, where I live, we have a civil law called 'BGB' (=
> Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch).
>
> It declares, that you cannot acquire ownership, if the possession
> ('Besitz' in German) is based upon anything illegal.
>
> Therefore you cannot own a stolen object, nor sell it or give it to
> somebody else for free legally, because the stolen object remains
> stolen, whatever you do with it.
>
> In the USA they have different laws, but I don't think, that armed
> robbery is allowed there.
>
> ...
>
> TH
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little
longer." - Henry Kissinger
The law is...there are no laws.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-13 09:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n43krkFn1fnU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1218294 |
Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 20:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
...
>>>> Who owns Veneusula?
>>>>
>>>> Trump owns it!
>>>>
>>>> He took it.
>>>>
>>>> It belongs to him.
>>
>> In Germany, where I live, we have a civil law called 'BGB' (=
>> Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch).
>>
>> It declares, that you cannot acquire ownership, if the possession
>> ('Besitz' in German) is based upon anything illegal.
>>
>> Therefore you cannot own a stolen object, nor sell it or give it to
>> somebody else for free legally, because the stolen object remains
>> stolen, whatever you do with it.
>>
>> In the USA they have different laws, but I don't think, that armed
>> robbery is allowed there.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> TH
>
>
> "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little
> longer." - Henry Kissinger
>
>
> The law is...there are no laws.
>
Currently Kissinger discusses this topic with the devil...
TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-13 08:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69DD103B.5017@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1218355 |
Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 20:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
> ...
> >>>> Who owns Veneusula?
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump owns it!
> >>>>
> >>>> He took it.
> >>>>
> >>>> It belongs to him.
> >>
> >> In Germany, where I live, we have a civil law called 'BGB' (=
> >> Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch).
> >>
> >> It declares, that you cannot acquire ownership, if the possession
> >> ('Besitz' in German) is based upon anything illegal.
> >>
> >> Therefore you cannot own a stolen object, nor sell it or give it to
> >> somebody else for free legally, because the stolen object remains
> >> stolen, whatever you do with it.
> >>
> >> In the USA they have different laws, but I don't think, that armed
> >> robbery is allowed there.
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> > "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little
> > longer." - Henry Kissinger
> >
> >
> > The law is...there are no laws.
> >
>
> Currently Kissinger discusses this topic with the devil...
>
> TH
The word God is short for Good
The word Devil is long for the word evil (they added a 'D'evil)
you are just talking words here..
There is no God
There is no Devil
There are no Laws
What I want, I take.
If I want your woman, she belongs to me. that's it. Game over
You know why I have two hands for? Too Take.
I got what it takes to take what you got.
the vorld belongs to me.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-17 09:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <n4e3j5Fd71uU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1218401 |
Am Montag000013, 13.04.2026 um 17:48 schrieb The Starmaker:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Sonntag000012, 12.04.2026 um 20:18 schrieb The Starmaker:
>> ...
>>>>>> Who owns Veneusula?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump owns it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He took it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It belongs to him.
>>>>
>>>> In Germany, where I live, we have a civil law called 'BGB' (=
>>>> Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch).
>>>>
>>>> It declares, that you cannot acquire ownership, if the possession
>>>> ('Besitz' in German) is based upon anything illegal.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore you cannot own a stolen object, nor sell it or give it to
>>>> somebody else for free legally, because the stolen object remains
>>>> stolen, whatever you do with it.
>>>>
>>>> In the USA they have different laws, but I don't think, that armed
>>>> robbery is allowed there.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>
>>>
>>> "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little
>>> longer." - Henry Kissinger
>>>
>>>
>>> The law is...there are no laws.
>>>
>>
>> Currently Kissinger discusses this topic with the devil...
>>
>> TH
>
> The word God is short for Good
>
> The word Devil is long for the word evil (they added a 'D'evil)
>
> you are just talking words here..
>
> There is no God
> There is no Devil
>
> There are no Laws
>
That's how Kissinger actually argued, but the devil didn't agree.
TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-23 23:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69EB0CAF.2D71@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1218151 |
this is the longest 48 hours i ever seen... fuck'em kill them all drop the bomb Trump probably told Iran... "YOU HAD YOUR FUCKING CHANCE TO BUILD AN ATOMIC BOMB AND DROP IT ON ISREAL, BUT YOU DIDN'T!" "YOU DON'T DESERVE THE BOMB!" The Starmaker wrote: > > Come on, let's be real here... > > these ongoing wars between > 'whatever' are > just a bunch of monkeys > and gorillas fighting over > who gets the banana tree. > > planet of the apes > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Let me put it this way...since.. > > yous don't understand.. > > (and probably never will) > > > > Trump has two hands. > > > > What he wants, he takes. > > > > Trump doesn't like the way > > Iran is running stuff.. > > > > he takes it! > > > > It's his! > > > > It belongs to him. > > > > He OWNS it! > > > > Who owns Veneusula? > > > > Trump owns it! > > > > He took it. > > > > It belongs to him. > > > > Don't worry, hell find somebody to > > 'manage' it for him.. > > > > maybe one of those guys from the show... > > > > The Apprentice! > > > > Trump does not run the world... > > > > TRUMP OWNS THE WORLD! > > > > dat thing you call planet earth... > > > > Trump owns it. > > > > He might as well take France... > > > > there is some faguet running it now... > > > > one of them dressed like a woman! > > > > GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! > > > > Who ever owns the biggest military on earth > > owns the earth. > > > > It's dat simple. > > > > One man owns the planet earth...and his > > name is... > > Donald Trump! > > > > OWNS THE EARTH! > > > > I guess next is Mars... > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > I don't need 48 hours to > > > take Strait of Hormuz, ... > > > > > > I'll do it NOW! > > > > > > I got what it takes > > > to take what you got. > > > > > > What have you got hands for? To take! > > > > > > I won't even count to three.. > > > > > > DONE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > > > -- > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-24 14:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <69EBE5EB.1CB3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1219636 |
I would advise Trump..."I don't negotiate with terroists!" Trump will ask me ..."You don't think I should give Iran more time to reconsider?" I would say to him..."IRAN?? I was talking about Israel! They are the TERROISTS!!!!" https://promisedlandmuseum.org/albert-einstein-letter/ The Starmaker wrote: > > this is the longest 48 hours i ever seen... > > fuck'em > kill them all > drop the bomb > > Trump probably told Iran... > > "YOU HAD YOUR FUCKING CHANCE TO BUILD AN ATOMIC BOMB AND DROP IT ON > ISREAL, BUT YOU DIDN'T!" > > "YOU DON'T DESERVE THE BOMB!" > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Come on, let's be real here... > > > > these ongoing wars between > > 'whatever' are > > just a bunch of monkeys > > and gorillas fighting over > > who gets the banana tree. > > > > planet of the apes > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Let me put it this way...since.. > > > yous don't understand.. > > > (and probably never will) > > > > > > Trump has two hands. > > > > > > What he wants, he takes. > > > > > > Trump doesn't like the way > > > Iran is running stuff.. > > > > > > he takes it! > > > > > > It's his! > > > > > > It belongs to him. > > > > > > He OWNS it! > > > > > > Who owns Veneusula? > > > > > > Trump owns it! > > > > > > He took it. > > > > > > It belongs to him. > > > > > > Don't worry, hell find somebody to > > > 'manage' it for him.. > > > > > > maybe one of those guys from the show... > > > > > > The Apprentice! > > > > > > Trump does not run the world... > > > > > > TRUMP OWNS THE WORLD! > > > > > > dat thing you call planet earth... > > > > > > Trump owns it. > > > > > > He might as well take France... > > > > > > there is some faguet running it now... > > > > > > one of them dressed like a woman! > > > > > > GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! > > > > > > Who ever owns the biggest military on earth > > > owns the earth. > > > > > > It's dat simple. > > > > > > One man owns the planet earth...and his > > > name is... > > > Donald Trump! > > > > > > OWNS THE EARTH! > > > > > > I guess next is Mars... > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't need 48 hours to > > > > take Strait of Hormuz, ... > > > > > > > > I'll do it NOW! > > > > > > > > I got what it takes > > > > to take what you got. > > > > > > > > What have you got hands for? To take! > > > > > > > > I won't even count to three.. > > > > > > > > DONE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > > > > > -- > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > > > -- > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > and challenge the unchallengeable. > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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