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  Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-17 07:40 -0400
    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-17 13:48 +0000
      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-17 14:11 +0000
        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-17 19:12 +0000
        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-17 19:28 +0000
          Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-18 10:24 +0000
            Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-18 14:19 +0000
              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-18 22:55 +0000
                Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-19 02:31 +0000
                Re: Zugzwang marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 03:04 +0000
                Re: Zugzwang Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-18 22:59 -0600
                  Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-19 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Zugzwang Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-19 13:43 +0000
              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-19 02:55 +0000
                Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-19 13:52 +0000
                  Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-19 18:01 +0000
                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-19 20:11 +0000
                      Re: Zugzwang Gruesome Newsom <MAGAdumb@dumb.calif> - 2026-03-19 23:42 +0000
                      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-20 14:20 +0000
                        Re: Zugzwang Gruesome Newsom <MAGAdumb@dumb.calif> - 2026-03-20 14:40 +0000
                          Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-20 21:57 +0000
                            Re: Zugzwang Michael Knowles <mknowles@dailywire.com> - 2026-03-21 02:49 +0000
                              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-21 11:34 +0000
                                Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-21 13:04 +0000
                                  Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-21 15:52 +0000
                                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-21 18:17 +0000
                                      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-22 14:38 +0000
                                        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-22 22:46 +0000
                                          Re: Zugzwang Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-23 01:47 +0000
                                            Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-23 02:26 +0000
                                              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-23 02:47 +0000
                                            Re: Zugzwang Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-23 08:08 -0600
                                              Re: Zugzwang Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-03-23 17:44 +0000
                                                Re: Zugzwang Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-23 12:02 -0600
                                                  Re: Zugzwang phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 12:31 -0600
                                                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-24 00:17 +0000
                                                      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-24 12:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-25 12:16 +0000
                                                          Re: Zugzwang Lee <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 15:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-26 22:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-28 12:21 +0000
                                                                Re: Zugzwang Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-03-28 09:39 -0400
                                                                  Re: Zugzwang "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-28 12:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-30 21:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-31 11:29 +0000
                                                                        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-31 11:59 +0000
                                                                          Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-01 12:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: Zugzwang Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-04-01 09:56 -0400
                                                                              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-01 14:54 +0000
                                                                                Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-02 02:07 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Zugzwang phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 22:14 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-02 11:00 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Zugzwang "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-02 04:56 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-02 18:29 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-04 11:14 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Wang is the preferred meal of Berkeley residents mknowles@dailywire.com - 2026-04-04 19:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-05 12:55 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Zugzwang Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2026-04-05 13:52 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-06 14:30 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-07 00:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-11 12:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-13 20:32 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Suspect arrested on child pornography charges while on bond after online trafficking sting Desi@QodSquad.org - 2026-04-13 23:23 +0000
                                                                                          I wish that you rightists would leave the children alone.: Suspect arrested on child pornography charges while on bond after online trafficking sting Newsom Wrecked California <newsom-trainwreck@ca.gov> - 2026-04-14 00:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-14 12:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: Zugzwang Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-04-04 03:42 -0400
                                                                          Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-02 18:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Zugzwang "Hail Trump!" <hailtrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 13:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-07 03:35 +0000
                                                                                Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-04-10 14:30 +0000
                                                            Re: Zugzwang bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-03-28 14:45 +0000
                Re: Zugzwang Samuel Brown <same@hotmail.edu> - 2026-03-19 13:58 +0000
                  Re: Zugzwang Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-03-19 13:05 -0600
              Re: Zugzwang marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 03:01 +0000
    Re: Zugzwang Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-18 23:01 -0600

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#1215220 — Zugzwang

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-17 07:40 -0400
SubjectZugzwang
Message-ID<10pbek7$np5$1@panix3.panix.com>
 | 
 | As War With Iran Hurts Oil Prices, U.S. Turns to Iranian
 | Boats for Help
 | 
 | Iranian-linked ships carrying Russian oil were among those
 | that received temporary exemptions from sanctions, a sign
 | of how dire the energy crisis is becoming.
 | 
 | To help control spiking oil prices during the war in the
 | Middle East, the United States is turning to an unlikely
 | source for help: a network of tankers with ties to the
 | Iranian military.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/business/iran-war-boats-russian-oil.html>

    --bks

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#1215232

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-17 13:48 +0000
Message-ID<10pbm2k$ond$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215220
 | ... 
 | 9. The least bad option is the classic diplomatic off-ramp.
 | The U.S. declares that Iran's military capabilities have
 | been significantly degraded, which is how the Pentagon
 | always saw the purpose of the war. Iran declares victory
 | for surviving and demonstrating it can still threaten
 | regional actors. It would feel unsatisfying. But this is
 | the inevitable outcome anyway. Better to stop now than
 | after five or ten more years of escalating costs. Remember
 | in Afghanistan we turned down a deal very early in the war
 | with the Taliban that looked amazing 20 years later.  Don't
 | need to repeat that kind of mistake.
 | ... 
<https://xcancel.com/ilangoldenberg/status/2033566389978423382>

    --bks

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#1215234

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-17 14:11 +0000
Message-ID<10pbndu$ha2$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215232
 | 
 | A Top U.S. Counterterrorism Official Resigns, Citing the
 | Iran War
 | 
 | Joe Kent announced his resignation as director of the
 | National Counterterrorism Center. He said that pressure
 | from Israel had pushed President Trump into war against Iran.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/17/world/middleeast/joe-kent-counterterrorism-resigns-iran-war.html>

    --bks

I feel safer already.

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#1215257

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-17 19:12 +0000
Message-ID<10pc92i$31d$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215234
 | ... 
 | But wait, it gets even worse than that. Iran is reportedly
 | considering re-opening the Strait to non-Iranian ships, but
 | only for trades conducted in Chinese yuan. That would be
 | fine and dandy for oh, say... China. And, of course, while
 | the U.S. is unlikely to fire on an Iranian oil tanker, it
 | would never fire on a Chinese tanker. Talk about World War
 | III--that would probably do it.
 | 
 | In short, despite having declared victory on Day 1 (raising
 | the obvious question: Why is there still fighting going
 | on?), the Trump administration has utterly botched this
 | thing, and at the same time is being completely
 | outmaneuvered by the Iranian government. Undoubtedly, Henry
 | Kissinger and Richard Nixon are rolling in their graves.
 | 
 | And it is abundantly clear that Trump knows he's dug
 | himself a hole, and that he's starting to feel the heat.
 | The best way to take the President's temperature, of
 | course, is to take a look at his
 | shoot-first-ask-questions-never social media platform. And
 | if you happened to take a look on Sunday night, you saw
 | that he fired off an absolutely unhinged rant about Jerome
 | Powell, and tariffs, and Joe Biden and a whole bunch of
 | other things that ran to nearly 1,000 words. You simply
 | cannot read it and say it's the work of a healthy mind.
 | It's like reading Ulysses or Infinite Jest, except that
 | once you do the hard work of parsing it, there's actually
 | nothing there.
 | ...
<https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2026/Items/Mar17-1.html>

    --bks

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#1215258

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-17 19:28 +0000
Message-ID<10pca0t$nu$4@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215234
 | 
 | Top counterterrorism official Kent resigns over Trump's
 | Iran war, says Iran posed no imminent threat
 | ...
<https://apnews.com/article/trump-iran-war-kent-resignation-e2e17a76d79617a68370f076c0291208>

 | ... 
 | But Iran itself is shipping oil through the strait in
 | almost the same volumes as before the war, earning the
 | much-needed cash to sustain its economy and war effort. In
 | addition, there were already millions of barrels of Iranian
 | crude oil at sea looking for buyers before the conflict began. 
 | ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/16/business/iranian-oil-exports-hormuz-strait-intl-cmd>

    --bks

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#1215304

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-18 10:24 +0000
Message-ID<10pduhg$n6s$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215258
 | ... 
 | Yes, the US will threaten not to come to the rescue of its
 | Nato allies in a crisis. But the sad truth is that very few
 | of its allies expect it to do so in any case. Its behaviour
 | towards them has been so erratic and offensive, under
 | Trump, that trust has in large part evaporated. Worse, the
 | US has even seemed hostile to the liberal democratic values
 | that Europeans and others long believed they shared with
 | the hegemonic power.
 | 
 | Is there then a way through this mess to a measure of
 | meaningful stability in this crucial region of the world? I
 | do not know. If it is a military one, it is up to those who
 | attacked Iran to find it. If it is a diplomatic one, then
 | outside countries might be able to help, though India or
 | China are likely to have far more influence over Iran than
 | any western power.
 | ... 
<https://www.ft.com/content/86be5097-1a9c-4dd6-bf53-1f2b429592c7?syn-25a6b1a6=1>

    --bks

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#1215335

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-18 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<10pec8q$ml1$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215304
 | 
 | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War
 | 
 | The Islamic Republic is designed to endure crises and fight
 | asymmetric conflicts.
 | 
 | President Trump appears to careen between two opposing
 | visions for victory in Iran: He has demanded Tehran's
 | "unconditional surrender" and also has signaled that he
 | might abruptly declare victory and leave. Neither scenario
 | is likely to end this war, because neither reflects any
 | real understanding of the adversary.
 | ... 
<https://www.theatlantic.com/international/2026/03/why-iran-regime-wont-surrender/686422/>

    --bks

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#1215412

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-18 22:55 +0000
Message-ID<10pfah1$47q$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215335
> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War
> | 
> | The Islamic Republic is designed to endure crises and fight
> | asymmetric conflicts.

 | 
 | Iran is firing MORE and they are hitting MORE per shot than
 | during the first days of the conflict.
 | 
 | Not good..
 | 
 | [Graphic at URL]
 |
<https://xcancel.com/AndreasSteno/status/2034357635256922473>

    --bks

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#1215438

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-19 02:31 +0000
Message-ID<10pfn57$kin$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215412
>> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War

> | Iran is firing MORE and they are hitting MORE per shot than
> | during the first days of the conflict.
> | 
> | Not good..

There is no plan.  None, nada, zilch:
 | 
 | President Donald Trump's administration is considering
 | deploying thousands of U.S. troops to reinforce its
 | operation in the Middle East, as the U.S. military prepares
 | for possible next steps in its campaign against Iran, said
 | a U.S. official  and three people familiar with the matter.
 | ...
<https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-weighs-military-reinforcements-iran-war-enters-possible-new-phase-2026-03-18/>

    --bks

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#1215444

Frommarika <marika5000@gmail.com>
Date2026-03-19 03:04 +0000
Message-ID<GIJuR.825471$wcP9.220360@fx24.iad>
In reply to#1215412
Bradley K. Sherman <bks@panix.com> wrote:
>> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War
>> | 
>> | The Islamic Republic is designed to endure crises and fight
>> | asymmetric conflicts.
> 
>  | 
>  | Iran is firing MORE and they are hitting MORE per shot than
>  | during the first days of the conflict.
>  | 
>  | Not good..
>  | 
>  | [Graphic at URL]
>  |
> <https://xcancel.com/AndreasSteno/status/2034357635256922473>
> 
>     --bks
> 


Drawings of jets, just like the russkies!
Clearly, manly unwoke warfighter Hagueseth was too busy working out at the
gym and doing 47 reps of everything and also looking up big scary đź’Ą words
for all his speeches, to learn anything useful since he was appointed as
SecDef. 

https://x.com/jesuschryslerii/status/2029716282556174359?s=61&t=ZCHyRu4DjWNZf_cm3_DB6A


JesusChryslerII (@Jesus Chrysler) posted: **Confirmed** The US has been
bombing drawings of F-14s this entire time lol.
The Iranians put their jets underground before the war began.
Yes - DRAWINGS.
Our “Secretary of War” is an alcoholic TV news host.
https://x.com/jesuschryslerii/status/2029716282556174359?s=66&t=ZCHyRu4DjWNZf_cm3_DB6A


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#1215446

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-03-18 22:59 -0600
Message-ID<10pfvs1$ekbe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1215412
Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War
>> |
>> | The Islamic Republic is designed to endure crises and fight
>> | asymmetric conflicts.
>   |
>   | Iran is firing MORE and they are hitting MORE per shot than
>   | during the first days of the conflict.
>   |
>   | Not good..
>   |
>   | [Graphic at URL]
>   |
> <https://xcancel.com/AndreasSteno/status/2034357635256922473>
> 

Thanks to Vlad, eh?

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#1215492

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-19 13:21 +0000
Message-ID<10pgt88$7cr$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215446
>>> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War

 | 
 | The question on everyone's mind this week seems to be some
 | variation of "When will the Iran war be over?" Americans
 | don't see the point, and their anger is only growing as the
 | death toll rises and the economic damage deepens.
 | 
 | It's a fair question, especially as the White House and
 | Pentagon have been wholly unable to articulate their
 | endgame. But the question that matters more to everyday
 | Americans is a narrower one, and one the White House has
 | even less control over: When will the Strait of Hormuz
 | reopen? 
 | ...
<https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/19/business/strait-of-hormuz-open-trump-iran>

    --bks

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#1215499

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2026-03-19 13:43 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB41458C0918E6629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#1215492
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:10pgt88$7cr$2@reader2.panix.com: 

>>>> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War
> 
> | 
> | The question on everyone's mind this week seems to be some
> | variation of "When will the Iran war be over?" Americans
> | don't see the point, and their anger is only growing as the
> | death toll rises and the economic damage deepens.
> | 
> | It's a fair question, especially as the White House and
> | Pentagon have been wholly unable to articulate their
> | endgame. But the question that matters more to everyday
> | Americans is a narrower one, and one the White House has
> | even less control over: When will the Strait of Hormuz
> | reopen? 
> | ...
> <https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/19/business/strait-of-hormuz-open-trump-ir
> an> 
> 
>     --bks
> 




Trump says America doesn't need Middle East oil.
Jan 8, 2020 

https://www.wral.com/trump-says-america-doesnt-need-middle-east-oil-its-
not-that-simple/18874802/

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#1215442

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-19 02:55 +0000
Message-ID<10pfojs$3l7$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215335
> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War

 | 
 | For the record, the president of the United States is now
 | simultaneously claiming that he has won the war, is
 | currently winning the war, needs help to win the war, and
 | needs no help to win the war. All to destroy the nuclear
 | program he claims to have already destroyed last year.
 | 
<https://xcancel.com/Daractenus/status/2034318349820191096>

    --bks

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#1215502

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-19 13:52 +0000
Message-ID<10pgv35$c4l$6@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215442
>> | Trump May Not Be Able to End This War

> | For the record, the president of the United States is now
> | simultaneously claiming that he has won the war, is
> | currently winning the war, needs help to win the war, and
> | needs no help to win the war. All to destroy the nuclear
> | program he claims to have already destroyed last year.

 | ... 
 | As the Economist put it yesterday, "Although President
 | Donald Trump says he has 'destroyed 100% of Iran's Military
 | Capability', the 0% that remains is playing havoc with the
 | global economy."
 | ...
<https://www.thebulwark.com/p/someone-needs-to-tell-trump-the-truth-iran-war-oil-gas-prices-allies-threats>

    --bks

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#1215520

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-19 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<10phdl8$ont$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215502
> | As the Economist put it yesterday, "Although President
> | Donald Trump says he has 'destroyed 100% of Iran's Military
> | Capability', the 0% that remains is playing havoc with the
> | global economy."

Yikes!
 | 
 | U.S. Encourages Flow of Iranian Oil While It Battles Iran
 | 
 | Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said removing sanctions on
 | Iranian oil would lower global prices.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/us/politics/iran-oil-sanctions.html>

    --bks

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#1215528

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-19 20:11 +0000
Message-ID<10phl8o$olr$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215520
>> | As the Economist put it yesterday, "Although President
>> | Donald Trump says he has 'destroyed 100% of Iran's Military
>> | Capability', the 0% that remains is playing havoc with the
>> | global economy."

> | U.S. Encourages Flow of Iranian Oil While It Battles Iran
> | 
> | Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said removing sanctions on
> | Iranian oil would lower global prices.

So much humiliation for Boss Orangutan:
 | 
 | How countries are cutting deals with Iran to move oil
 | through the Strait of Hormuz - and undermine Trump
 | ...
<https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/middle-east/iran-strait-of-hormuz-oil-tankers-trump-countries-b2941566.html>

    --bks

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#1215536

FromGruesome Newsom <MAGAdumb@dumb.calif>
Date2026-03-19 23:42 +0000
Message-ID<10pi1l8$15oov$2@news.tcpreset.net>
In reply to#1215528
Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

>https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/middle-east/iran-strait-of-horm
>uz-oil-tankers-trump-countries-b2941566.html 

Why are they not cowering in fear of more Trumper Tariffs being pulled from 
his ass and smeared over truthsocial?

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#1215573

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2026-03-20 14:20 +0000
Message-ID<10pjl36$o1q$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1215528
>>> | As the Economist put it yesterday, "Although President
>>> | Donald Trump says he has 'destroyed 100% of Iran's Military
>>> | Capability', the 0% that remains is playing havoc with the
>>> | global economy."

 | 
 | The Pentagon is sending three warships and thousands of
 | additional Marines to the Middle East, even as President
 | Trump insists he won't put American boots on the ground in
 | Iran, according to U.S. officials. Roughly 2,200 to 2,500
 | Marines from the California-based USS Boxer amphibious
 | ready group and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit are heading
 | to the U.S. Central Command, responsible for all American
 | forces in the Middle East, the officials said.
 | ...
<https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-us-israel-war-updates-2026/card/pentagon-sending-thousands-of-additional-marines-to-middle-east-eZKaCmWQ3vp12vhNbFbV>

    --bks

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#1215579

FromGruesome Newsom <MAGAdumb@dumb.calif>
Date2026-03-20 14:40 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB4156C9BEB259aholegmailcom@94.130.76.71>
In reply to#1215573
Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

> | The Pentagon is sending three warships and thousands of
> | additional Marines to the Middle East, even as President
> | Trump insists he won't put American boots on the ground in
> | Iran, according to U.S. officials. Roughly 2,200 to 2,500
> | Marines from the California-based USS Boxer amphibious
> | ready group and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit are heading
> | to the U.S. Central Command, responsible for all American
> | forces in the Middle East, the officials said.
> | ...
><https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-us-israel-war-updates-2026/card/pen
>tagon-sending-thousands-of-additional-marines-to-middle-east-eZKaCmWQ3vp12
>vhNbFbV> 
>
>    --bks

Maybe Trump will order them to dig ditches and polish people's shoes during 
their stay since he says they won't see combat.   It will keep them busy.

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