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Re: Car Prices Up $3,000

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  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-06 16:07 +0000
    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 17:59 -0400
    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-07 09:34 -0400
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Ubiquitous <webermark@polaris.net> - 2025-06-07 13:42 +0000
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-06-07 15:15 -0400
        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-06-08 16:40 -0400
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-09 11:24 +0000
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:23 -0400
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 06:36 -0400
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-10 16:09 -0700
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-06-10 23:50 +0000
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-12 13:23 +0000
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-13 07:19 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-13 12:49 +0000
                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-14 09:12 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-13 05:55 -0700
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:14 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-13 18:41 -0400
                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-13 17:05 -0700
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 17:58 -0400
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-13 18:40 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:41 -0400
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-10 07:50 -0400
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:16 -0400
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-08 09:35 -0400
        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:43 -0400
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-16 10:22 +0000
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-16 07:39 -0400
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-18 09:09 +0000
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 06:07 -0400
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-18 07:35 -0400
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-06-18 13:36 -0400
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-19 07:06 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-19 19:54 +0000
                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-20 07:25 -0400
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Dutch <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:11 -0700
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 07:51 -0400
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-21 08:38 -0400
                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Lee <cleetous@gmail.corn> - 2025-06-21 09:36 -0700
                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-22 19:31 +0000
                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-22 20:13 -0400
                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-23 07:04 -0400
                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-25 11:07 +0000
                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-26 06:24 -0400
                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-27 13:00 +0000
                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-27 13:24 +0000
                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-30 20:25 +0000
                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-02 11:56 +0000
                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-02 12:59 +0000
                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-06 12:14 +0000
                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-06 10:08 -0400
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-08 11:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-08 08:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-08 11:12 -0400
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-09 08:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-09 11:53 -0400
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 13:17 -0400
                                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-10 13:55 -0400
                                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-10 13:55 -0700
                                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-11 07:29 -0400
                                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-11 11:34 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-09 11:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-10 07:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-09 08:36 -0400
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Cy Ubinger <cy.si@jose.jimenez.org> - 2025-07-09 07:32 -0700
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 13:20 -0400
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-10 14:00 -0400
                                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-11 11:36 -0400
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-10 13:32 -0700
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-09 11:51 -0400
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2025-07-09 09:03 -0700
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 13:21 -0400
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-11 01:04 +0000
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 18:21 -0700
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-09 10:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-09 13:52 -0400
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-18 13:37 +0000
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 00:32 -0400
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-17 13:30 +0000
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-17 11:11 -0400
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 22:55 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-17 20:20 -0700
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-06-17 13:15 -0400
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-18 07:34 -0400
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-13 23:57 -0600

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#1189981

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-22 20:13 -0400
Message-ID<fv6h5klt8sre5c2c54gnrtbqur8jq97hcb@4ax.com>
In reply to#1189956
On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:31:15 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.
>
>72 days in, zero trade deals signed:

Politico accepts that one deal has been made per this article.

"The shifting landscape has left some observers wondering whether the
U.S. will be able to secure a substantive deal with China — and if the
administration even wants one. So far, the U.S. has only secured a
written deal with the UK, which represents less than 3 percent of the
U.S. total trade."

> | 
> | 'There is not a singular voice': On trade, countries don't
> | know who in Trump's circle to listen to
> |
> | The president has deputized three Cabinet members to lead
> | trade talks. They're bumping into each other -- and gumming
> | up negotiations.
> | ... 
><https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/22/there-is-not-a-singular-voice-countries-cant-figure-out-who-in-trumps-circle-to-listen-to-on-trade-00415851>
>
>    --bks
-- 
NO KINGS

8647!

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#1190041

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-06-23 07:04 -0400
Message-ID<84di5k5ophn0ects9e04g1i418d9ef5ohu@4ax.com>
In reply to#1189956
On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:31:15 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.
>
>72 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | 'There is not a singular voice': On trade, countries don't
> | know who in Trump's circle to listen to
> |
> | The president has deputized three Cabinet members to lead
> | trade talks. They're bumping into each other -- and gumming
> | up negotiations.
> | ... 
><https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/22/there-is-not-a-singular-voice-countries-cant-figure-out-who-in-trumps-circle-to-listen-to-on-trade-00415851>
>
>    --bks

And Bradley's daily lie as deals have already been made.

Oh and weren't you claiming that prices were going to shoot up from
tariffs?  They haven't.

Lie after lie after lie.

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#1190299

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-25 11:07 +0000
Message-ID<103gl9p$6p6$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1190041
>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.

75 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | Hassett: Trade Deals Coming After Tax Bill
 | ... 
<https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-06-24-2025/card/hassett-trade-deals-coming-after-tax-bill-aAoDZvid3GgmxJthOXhC>

    --bks

Sure they are, Kev.

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#1190398

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-06-26 06:24 -0400
Message-ID<au7q5kljs2adq68h69c31ei9rrrkqthock@4ax.com>
In reply to#1190299
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:07:37 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.
>
>75 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | Hassett: Trade Deals Coming After Tax Bill
> | ... 
><https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-06-24-2025/card/hassett-trade-deals-coming-after-tax-bill-aAoDZvid3GgmxJthOXhC>
>
>    --bks
>
>Sure they are, Kev.

And Bradley posts his daily lie.

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#1190543

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-27 13:00 +0000
Message-ID<103m4kf$7nf$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1190398
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.

76 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | BARTIROMO: What is the next country we should expect a
 | trade deal to do with the US? Are you gonna be able to get
 | some deal announcements beyond just the UK before this
 | August deadline?
 | 
 | BESSENT: With all things, they get done at the end ... I
 | think we could have trade wrapped up by Labor Day
 |  
 | [91-second Fox Business video at URL]
 |
<https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/1938579549018566958>

    --bks

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#1190547

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-06-27 13:24 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB30B553475A4C629555@69.80.102.19>
In reply to#1190543
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:103m4kf$7nf$2
@reader2.panix.com:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.
> 
> 76 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | BARTIROMO: What is the next country we should expect a
> | trade deal to do with the US? Are you gonna be able to get
> | some deal announcements beyond just the UK before this
> | August deadline?
> | 
> | BESSENT: With all things, they get done at the end ... I
> | think we could have trade wrapped up by Labor Day
> |  
> | [91-second Fox Business video at URL]
> |
> <https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/1938579549018566958>
> 
>     --bks
> 


     From the same gullible Trumpists who 
believed Trump would end the Ukraine war
before he was even sworn in. 


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#1190840

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-30 20:25 +0000
Message-ID<103ursf$rtq$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1190547
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.

79 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | President Trump suggested Monday there won't be a trade
 | deal with Japan, sharing that the trading partner will be
 | getting a letter from the administration to set a tariff
 | rate.
 | ... 
<https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5377358-trump-trade-deal-japan-tariffs/>

    --bks

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#1191002

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-07-02 11:56 +0000
Message-ID<10436ph$6q4$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1190840
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.

81 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | Trump Said Trade Deals Would Come Easy. Japan Is Proving
 | Him Wrong.
 | ... 
<https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trump-trade-tariff-deal-japan-c87ee950>

    --bks

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#1191007

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-07-02 12:59 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB31050A1367C629555@185.151.15.190>
In reply to#1191002
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:10436ph$6q4$1@reader1.panix.com: 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
> 
> 81 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | Trump Said Trade Deals Would Come Easy. Japan Is Proving
> | Him Wrong.
> | ... 
> <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trump-trade-tariff-deal-japan-c87ee9
> 50> 
> 
>     --bks
> 


   
     Reality proves Trump wrong. 


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#1191435

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-07-06 12:14 +0000
Message-ID<104dpbq$m2d$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1191007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.

85 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | Lumber from Canada? That will be another $534.
 | 
 | Major appliances from China? Add a cool $445.
 | 
 | New homes in the United States are set to get more
 | expensive thanks to President Donald Trump's tariff agenda,
 | which is expected to raise the costs of a wide variety of
 | materials that go into building houses.
 | ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/house-construction-cost-tariff-change/>

    --bks

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#1191466

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-07-06 10:08 -0400
Message-ID<bo0l6kt1vjbk9s4aaoj84n597gsngbein9@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191435
On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 12:14:50 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
>
>85 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | Lumber from Canada? That will be another $534.
> | 
> | Major appliances from China? Add a cool $445.
> | 
> | New homes in the United States are set to get more
> | expensive thanks to President Donald Trump's tariff agenda,
> | which is expected to raise the costs of a wide variety of
> | materials that go into building houses.
> | ...
><https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/house-construction-cost-tariff-change/>
>
>    --bks

And Bradley lies again.

Three deals in place.  

NBC making stuff up out of thin air.

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#1191657

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-07-08 11:47 +0000
Message-ID<104j0ga$88f$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1191466
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.

87 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | ... 
 | There were never going to be genuine trade deals
 | 
 | These tariffs are going to hurt South Korea and Japan,
 | although they'll hurt U.S. consumers even more. So why
 | didn't Korean and Japanese negotiators make big enough
 | concessions to satisfy Trump?
 | 
 | Because there was nothing for them to concede. South Korea
 | has had a free trade agreement with the United States since
 | 2012, so most U.S. exports to Korea face zero tariffs.
 | Japan, like other wealthy nations, has very low tariffs on
 | most goods. Neither country, then, was in a position to
 | offer big tariff reductions, because their tariffs were
 | already minimal.
 | ...
<https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-tariff-beatings-will-continue>

    --bks

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#1191662

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-07-08 08:25 -0400
Message-ID<104j2oj$3ickl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1191657
Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
>
> 87 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | ... 
> | There were never going to be genuine trade deals
> | 
> | These tariffs are going to hurt South Korea and Japan,
> | although they'll hurt U.S. consumers even more. So why
> | didn't Korean and Japanese negotiators make big enough
> | concessions to satisfy Trump?
> | 
> | Because there was nothing for them to concede. South Korea
> | has had a free trade agreement with the United States since
> | 2012, so most U.S. exports to Korea face zero tariffs.
> | Japan, like other wealthy nations, has very low tariffs on
> | most goods. Neither country, then, was in a position to
> | offer big tariff reductions, because their tariffs were
> | already minimal.
> | ...
> <https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-tariff-beatings-will-continue>

Let's face it, Trump suffers from economic dementia.

And everyone else suffers from Trump.

Here, we suffer from trolls like:

    pothead
    Skeeter OG
    NoBody
    c186282
    Yak
    Doctor Fill
    LeftistDon'tMatter
    The many nyms of "Rudy"

-- 
It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt.
It lies behind starts and under hills,
And empty holes it fills.
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.

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#1191671

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-07-08 11:12 -0400
Message-ID<104jch7$3km8e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1191662
Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> <snip>
>
> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>
>     pothead
>     Skeeter OG
>     NoBody
>     c186282
>     Yak
>     Doctor Fill
>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>     The many nyms of "Rudy"

Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
thread, is an instant "Next!"

-- 
Another day, another dollar.
		-- Vincent J. Fuller, defense lawyer for John Hinckley,
		   upon Hinckley's acquittal for shooting President Ronald
		   Reagan.

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#1191729

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-09 08:37 -0400
Message-ID<gios6k16l8mfck2iv20ou5k7tm8rlguhlc@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191671
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>
>>     pothead
>>     Skeeter OG
>>     NoBody
>>     c186282
>>     Yak
>>     Doctor Fill
>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>
>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>thread, is an instant "Next!"

"Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.
-- 
8647!

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget

What ARE we spending it on ... really?

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#1191753

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-07-09 11:53 -0400
Message-ID<104m39v$a9ak$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1191729
Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
> <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>>
>>>     pothead
>>>     Skeeter OG
>>>     NoBody
>>>     c186282
>>>     Yak
>>>     Doctor Fill
>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>
>>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>>thread, is an instant "Next!"
>
> "Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.

My definition of a long thread is one page down (via the spacebar in slrn).

If the response to the troll is not there yet, "Next!"

-- 
`When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at
you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*".'
(By Linus Torvalds)

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#1191819

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-10 13:17 -0400
Message-ID<24tv6ktebcp1l5i7v5uts2kpl8bps2r86i@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191753
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:53:34 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>>>> <snip> 
>>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>>>
>>>>     pothead
>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>>>     NoBody
>>>>     c186282
>>>>     Yak
>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>
>>>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>>>thread, is an instant "Next!"
>>
>> "Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.
>
>My definition of a long thread is one page down (via the spacebar in slrn).
>
>If the response to the troll is not there yet, "Next!"

Trolls get one page down, posters who make sense get three.  Anybody
who can't figure out how to edit the top three pages needs to find a
hobby that doesn't involve English composition.

I hate it when a poster I usually read drops five pages to post one
line.  EDIT!  I edited this one without any loss of content or
context.
-- 
Two alpha males dukin' it out.

<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7FeXZHaeqLo>

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#1191822

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-07-10 13:55 -0400
Message-ID<104oura$vn10$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1191819
Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:53:34 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>>Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>>>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>>>>> <snip> 
>>>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>>>>
>>>>>     pothead
>>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>>>>     NoBody
>>>>>     c186282
>>>>>     Yak
>>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>
>>>>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>>>>thread, is an instant "Next!"
>>>
>>> "Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.
>>
>>My definition of a long thread is one page down (via the spacebar in slrn).
>>
>>If the response to the troll is not there yet, "Next!"
>
> Trolls get one page down, posters who make sense get three.  Anybody
> who can't figure out how to edit the top three pages needs to find a
> hobby that doesn't involve English composition.
>
> I hate it when a poster I usually read drops five pages to post one
> line.  EDIT!  I edited this one without any loss of content or
> context.

I tend to <snip> whatever is not relevant to my rejoinder.

Also annoying are posters who "uncloak" trolls (i.e. a reply with
no response to allow the viewing of a kill-filed troll).  Take a
bow "%".

-- 
Porsche: there simply is no substitute.
		-- Risky Business

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#1191831

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-07-10 13:55 -0700
Message-ID<104p9c8$120f6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1191822
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     pothead
>> >>>>>     Skeeter OG
>> >>>>>     NoBody
>> >>>>>     c186282
>> >>>>>     Yak
>> >>>>>     Doctor Fill
>> >>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>> >>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>>

Starting a few months ago, we get a periodic toxic red tide of racism 
and hate. They appear, unload their bile, then disappear.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied.  @
Thank goodness my iron lung is working again!       /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#1191872

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-07-11 07:29 -0400
Message-ID<kbt17k1m7msmgp8ci91dcrlsuk5hqohd6a@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191831
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 13:55:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>     pothead
>>> >>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>> >>>>>     NoBody
>>> >>>>>     c186282
>>> >>>>>     Yak
>>> >>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>> >>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>> >>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>>>
>
>Starting a few months ago, we get a periodic toxic red tide of racism 
>and hate. They appear, unload their bile, then disappear.

Laughter!

It's very amusing that the trolls provide a list of "trolls".

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