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  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:43 -0400
    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-16 10:22 +0000
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-16 07:39 -0400
        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-18 09:09 +0000
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 06:07 -0400
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-18 07:35 -0400
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-06-18 13:36 -0400
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-19 07:06 -0400
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-19 19:54 +0000
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-20 07:25 -0400
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Dutch <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:11 -0700
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 07:51 -0400
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-21 08:38 -0400
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Lee <cleetous@gmail.corn> - 2025-06-21 09:36 -0700
                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-22 19:31 +0000
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-22 20:13 -0400
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-23 07:04 -0400
                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-25 11:07 +0000
                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-26 06:24 -0400
                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-27 13:00 +0000
                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-27 13:24 +0000
                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-30 20:25 +0000
                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-02 11:56 +0000
                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-02 12:59 +0000
                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-06 12:14 +0000
                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-06 10:08 -0400
                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-08 11:47 +0000
                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-08 08:25 -0400
                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-08 11:12 -0400
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-09 08:37 -0400
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-09 11:53 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 13:17 -0400
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-10 13:55 -0400
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-10 13:55 -0700
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-11 07:29 -0400
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-11 11:34 -0400
                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-09 11:44 +0000
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-10 07:42 -0400
                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-09 08:36 -0400
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Cy Ubinger <cy.si@jose.jimenez.org> - 2025-07-09 07:32 -0700
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 13:20 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-10 14:00 -0400
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-11 11:36 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-10 13:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-09 11:51 -0400
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> - 2025-07-09 09:03 -0700
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 13:21 -0400
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-07-11 01:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 18:21 -0700
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-09 10:06 -0700
                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-09 13:52 -0400
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-18 13:37 +0000
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 00:32 -0400
        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-17 13:30 +0000
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-17 11:11 -0400
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 22:55 -0400
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-17 20:20 -0700
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-06-17 13:15 -0400
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-18 07:34 -0400

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#1190547

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in news:103m4kf$7nf$2
@reader2.panix.com:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.
> 
> 76 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | BARTIROMO: What is the next country we should expect a
> | trade deal to do with the US? Are you gonna be able to get
> | some deal announcements beyond just the UK before this
> | August deadline?
> | 
> | BESSENT: With all things, they get done at the end ... I
> | think we could have trade wrapped up by Labor Day
> |  
> | [91-second Fox Business video at URL]
> |
> <https://xcancel.com/atrupar/status/1938579549018566958>
> 
>     --bks
> 


     From the same gullible Trumpists who 
believed Trump would end the Ukraine war
before he was even sworn in. 

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#1190840

>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.

79 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | President Trump suggested Monday there won't be a trade
 | deal with Japan, sharing that the trading partner will be
 | getting a letter from the administration to set a tariff
 | rate.
 | ... 
<https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5377358-trump-trade-deal-japan-tariffs/>

    --bks

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#1191002

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | administration wants to strike 90 trade deals in 90 days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | but the challenges to quickly resolving the president's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | trade war are already apparent.

81 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | Trump Said Trade Deals Would Come Easy. Japan Is Proving
 | Him Wrong.
 | ... 
<https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trump-trade-tariff-deal-japan-c87ee950>

    --bks

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#1191007

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:10436ph$6q4$1@reader1.panix.com: 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
> 
> 81 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | Trump Said Trade Deals Would Come Easy. Japan Is Proving
> | Him Wrong.
> | ... 
> <https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/trump-trade-tariff-deal-japan-c87ee9
> 50> 
> 
>     --bks
> 


   
     Reality proves Trump wrong. 

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#1191435

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.

85 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | Lumber from Canada? That will be another $534.
 | 
 | Major appliances from China? Add a cool $445.
 | 
 | New homes in the United States are set to get more
 | expensive thanks to President Donald Trump's tariff agenda,
 | which is expected to raise the costs of a wide variety of
 | materials that go into building houses.
 | ...
<https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/house-construction-cost-tariff-change/>

    --bks

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#1191466

On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 12:14:50 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
>
>85 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | Lumber from Canada? That will be another $534.
> | 
> | Major appliances from China? Add a cool $445.
> | 
> | New homes in the United States are set to get more
> | expensive thanks to President Donald Trump's tariff agenda,
> | which is expected to raise the costs of a wide variety of
> | materials that go into building houses.
> | ...
><https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/house-construction-cost-tariff-change/>
>
>    --bks

And Bradley lies again.

Three deals in place.  

NBC making stuff up out of thin air.

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#1191657

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.

87 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | ... 
 | There were never going to be genuine trade deals
 | 
 | These tariffs are going to hurt South Korea and Japan,
 | although they'll hurt U.S. consumers even more. So why
 | didn't Korean and Japanese negotiators make big enough
 | concessions to satisfy Trump?
 | 
 | Because there was nothing for them to concede. South Korea
 | has had a free trade agreement with the United States since
 | 2012, so most U.S. exports to Korea face zero tariffs.
 | Japan, like other wealthy nations, has very low tariffs on
 | most goods. Neither country, then, was in a position to
 | offer big tariff reductions, because their tariffs were
 | already minimal.
 | ...
<https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-tariff-beatings-will-continue>

    --bks

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#1191662

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
>
> 87 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | ... 
> | There were never going to be genuine trade deals
> | 
> | These tariffs are going to hurt South Korea and Japan,
> | although they'll hurt U.S. consumers even more. So why
> | didn't Korean and Japanese negotiators make big enough
> | concessions to satisfy Trump?
> | 
> | Because there was nothing for them to concede. South Korea
> | has had a free trade agreement with the United States since
> | 2012, so most U.S. exports to Korea face zero tariffs.
> | Japan, like other wealthy nations, has very low tariffs on
> | most goods. Neither country, then, was in a position to
> | offer big tariff reductions, because their tariffs were
> | already minimal.
> | ...
> <https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-tariff-beatings-will-continue>

Let's face it, Trump suffers from economic dementia.

And everyone else suffers from Trump.

Here, we suffer from trolls like:

    pothead
    Skeeter OG
    NoBody
    c186282
    Yak
    Doctor Fill
    LeftistDon'tMatter
    The many nyms of "Rudy"

-- 
It cannot be seen, cannot be felt,
Cannot be heard, cannot be smelt.
It lies behind starts and under hills,
And empty holes it fills.
It comes first and follows after,
Ends life, kills laughter.

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#1191671

Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> <snip>
>
> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>
>     pothead
>     Skeeter OG
>     NoBody
>     c186282
>     Yak
>     Doctor Fill
>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>     The many nyms of "Rudy"

Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
thread, is an instant "Next!"

-- 
Another day, another dollar.
		-- Vincent J. Fuller, defense lawyer for John Hinckley,
		   upon Hinckley's acquittal for shooting President Ronald
		   Reagan.

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#1191729

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>
>>     pothead
>>     Skeeter OG
>>     NoBody
>>     c186282
>>     Yak
>>     Doctor Fill
>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>
>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>thread, is an instant "Next!"

"Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.
-- 
8647!

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget

What ARE we spending it on ... really?

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#1191753

Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
> <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>>
>>>     pothead
>>>     Skeeter OG
>>>     NoBody
>>>     c186282
>>>     Yak
>>>     Doctor Fill
>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>
>>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>>thread, is an instant "Next!"
>
> "Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.

My definition of a long thread is one page down (via the spacebar in slrn).

If the response to the troll is not there yet, "Next!"

-- 
`When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at
you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*".'
(By Linus Torvalds)

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#1191819

On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:53:34 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>>>> <snip> 
>>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>>>
>>>>     pothead
>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>>>     NoBody
>>>>     c186282
>>>>     Yak
>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>
>>>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>>>thread, is an instant "Next!"
>>
>> "Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.
>
>My definition of a long thread is one page down (via the spacebar in slrn).
>
>If the response to the troll is not there yet, "Next!"

Trolls get one page down, posters who make sense get three.  Anybody
who can't figure out how to edit the top three pages needs to find a
hobby that doesn't involve English composition.

I hate it when a poster I usually read drops five pages to post one
line.  EDIT!  I edited this one without any loss of content or
context.
-- 
Two alpha males dukin' it out.

<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7FeXZHaeqLo>

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#1191822

Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:53:34 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>>Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 11:12:39 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: 
>>>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: 
>>>>> <snip> 
>>>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>>>>
>>>>>     pothead
>>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>>>>     NoBody
>>>>>     c186282
>>>>>     Yak
>>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>
>>>>Left off AlleyCat, another poster whose name, spotted at the top of a long
>>>>thread, is an instant "Next!"
>>>
>>> "Next!" when spotted *anywhere* in *any* thread.
>>
>>My definition of a long thread is one page down (via the spacebar in slrn).
>>
>>If the response to the troll is not there yet, "Next!"
>
> Trolls get one page down, posters who make sense get three.  Anybody
> who can't figure out how to edit the top three pages needs to find a
> hobby that doesn't involve English composition.
>
> I hate it when a poster I usually read drops five pages to post one
> line.  EDIT!  I edited this one without any loss of content or
> context.

I tend to <snip> whatever is not relevant to my rejoinder.

Also annoying are posters who "uncloak" trolls (i.e. a reply with
no response to allow the viewing of a kill-filed troll).  Take a
bow "%".

-- 
Porsche: there simply is no substitute.
		-- Risky Business

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#1191831

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     pothead
>> >>>>>     Skeeter OG
>> >>>>>     NoBody
>> >>>>>     c186282
>> >>>>>     Yak
>> >>>>>     Doctor Fill
>> >>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>> >>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>>

Starting a few months ago, we get a periodic toxic red tide of racism 
and hate. They appear, unload their bile, then disappear.

-- 
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied.  @
Thank goodness my iron lung is working again!       /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2        / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#1191872

On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 13:55:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>     pothead
>>> >>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>> >>>>>     NoBody
>>> >>>>>     c186282
>>> >>>>>     Yak
>>> >>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>> >>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>> >>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>>>
>
>Starting a few months ago, we get a periodic toxic red tide of racism 
>and hate. They appear, unload their bile, then disappear.

Laughter!

It's very amusing that the trolls provide a list of "trolls".

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#1191894

On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 13:55:36 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>     pothead
>>> >>>>>     Skeeter OG
>>> >>>>>     NoBody
>>> >>>>>     c186282
>>> >>>>>     Yak
>>> >>>>>     Doctor Fill
>>> >>>>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
>>> >>>>>     The many nyms of "Rudy"
>>>>>>
>
>Starting a few months ago, we get a periodic toxic red tide of racism 
>and hate. They appear, unload their bile, then disappear.

Dumped my filters last week as I do from time to time.  Yesterday I
filtered to delete Author contains: "shein" and unread posts dropped
by over 200.
-- 
8647!

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget

What ARE we spending it on ... really?

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#1191725

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.

90 days in, zero trade deals signed:
 | 
 | Trump delays tariffs as the rest of the world plays hardball
 | ...
<https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c628nk51364o>

    --bks

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#1191803

On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 11:44:56 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters) - President Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | Trump's administration wants to strike 90 trade deals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | in 90 days, but the challenges to quickly resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | the president's trade war are already apparent.
>
>90 days in, zero trade deals signed:
> | 
> | Trump delays tariffs as the rest of the world plays hardball
> | ...
><https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c628nk51364o>
>
>    --bks

Laughter!

3 deals in place and Bradley whines.

Oh and no "hardball" noted in the whiney "news" story.

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#1191728

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 08:25:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>> 87 days in, zero trade deals signed:
>> | ... 
>> | There were never going to be genuine trade deals
>> | 
>> | These tariffs are going to hurt South Korea and Japan,
>> | although they'll hurt U.S. consumers even more. So why
>> | didn't Korean and Japanese negotiators make big enough
>> | concessions to satisfy Trump?
>> | 
>> | Because there was nothing for them to concede. South Korea
>> | has had a free trade agreement with the United States since
>> | 2012, so most U.S. exports to Korea face zero tariffs.
>> | Japan, like other wealthy nations, has very low tariffs on
>> | most goods. Neither country, then, was in a position to
>> | offer big tariff reductions, because their tariffs were
>> | already minimal.
>> | ...
>> <https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-tariff-beatings-will-continue>
>
>Let's face it, Trump suffers from economic dementia.
>
>And everyone else suffers from Trump.
>
>Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>
>    pothead
>    Skeeter OG
>    NoBody
>    c186282
>    Yak
>    Doctor Fill
>    LeftistDon'tMatter
>    The many nyms of "Rudy"

Yax and c186282 have both been around a long time.  Both tend to make,
more or less, reasonable statements from a right wing perspective. Yak
will almost always engage in honest dialog.  C used to do that, but
lately, when confronted with any sort of logical question or request
for cites, mutters some inane comment about TDS and runs away. I
haven't seen him engage in dialog for quite a long time now.

The others, yeah, they're trolls and I don't know why we waste any
discussion time responding to them.  It means we aren't talking about
important stuff like Medicare cuts in Trump's Big, Beautiful, Bill.

I can hardly believe the stupid Democrats allowed it to pass.

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On 7/9/2025 5:36 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 08:25:55 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
> <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> 
>> Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>> 87 days in, zero trade deals signed:
>>> | ...
>>> | There were never going to be genuine trade deals
>>> |
>>> | These tariffs are going to hurt South Korea and Japan,
>>> | although they'll hurt U.S. consumers even more. So why
>>> | didn't Korean and Japanese negotiators make big enough
>>> | concessions to satisfy Trump?
>>> |
>>> | Because there was nothing for them to concede. South Korea
>>> | has had a free trade agreement with the United States since
>>> | 2012, so most U.S. exports to Korea face zero tariffs.
>>> | Japan, like other wealthy nations, has very low tariffs on
>>> | most goods. Neither country, then, was in a position to
>>> | offer big tariff reductions, because their tariffs were
>>> | already minimal.
>>> | ...
>>> <https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-tariff-beatings-will-continue>
>>
>> Let's face it, Trump suffers from economic dementia.
>>
>> And everyone else suffers from Trump.
>>
>> Here, we suffer from trolls like:
>>
>>     pothead
>>     Skeeter OG
>>     NoBody
>>     c186282
>>     Yak
>>     Doctor Fill
>>     LeftistDon'tMatter
> 
> Yax and c186282 have both been around a long time.  Both tend to make,
> more or less, reasonable statements from a right wing perspective. Yak
> will almost always engage in honest dialog.  C used to do that, but
> lately, when confronted with any sort of logical question or request
> for cites, mutters some inane comment about TDS and runs away. I
> haven't seen him engage in dialog for quite a long time now.
> 
> The others, yeah, they're trolls and I don't know why we waste any
> discussion time responding to them.  It means we aren't talking about
> important stuff like Medicare cuts in Trump's Big, Beautiful, Bill.
> 
> I can hardly believe the stupid Democrats allowed it to pass.
They're in the minority in both chambers. They had no ability to block it.

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