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Re: Trump Wants You To Die

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  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-17 13:34 +0000
    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-18 07:36 -0400
      Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-19 07:06 -0400
        Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-21 11:47 +0000
          Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-21 09:21 -0400
            Re: Trump Wants You To Die Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> - 2025-06-21 10:04 -0700
              Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-25 02:36 +0000
                Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-25 07:46 -0400
                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-29 21:33 +0000
                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-30 09:45 +0000
                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-06-30 12:44 +0000
                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-30 13:22 +0000
                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-01 07:27 -0400
                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-05 00:02 +0000
                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-05 02:09 +0000
                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-05 09:15 -0400
                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-05 06:29 -0700
                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-06 09:48 -0400
                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-10 13:44 +0000
                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-10 15:46 -0400
                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-11 12:58 +0000
                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-11 09:37 -0700
                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-12 17:45 -0400
                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-12 09:38 -0400
                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-13 12:36 +0000
                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-13 09:19 -0400
                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die kleine klauschen <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2025-07-13 10:33 -0700
                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-13 10:53 -0700
                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> - 2025-07-13 22:02 +0000
                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-17 13:34 +0000
                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-25 12:52 +0000
                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-26 08:53 -0400
                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-07-27 08:26 -0400
                                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-07-31 11:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-31 08:06 -0400
                                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-31 06:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-01 07:15 -0400
                                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-03 12:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-03 06:07 -0700
                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-04 06:54 -0400
                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-08 19:06 +0000
                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-08 15:26 -0400
                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-08 23:05 +0000
                                                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-25 13:04 +0000
                                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-08-25 13:13 +0000
                                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-26 07:43 -0400
                                                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-29 11:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-31 12:40 +0000
                                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-31 10:17 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-01 11:49 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-01 09:27 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-02 10:34 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-01 12:45 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-01 09:28 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-01 13:40 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-02 10:34 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-03 09:24 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-03 13:26 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-04 09:51 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-04 14:02 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> - 2025-09-04 17:25 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-05 08:35 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-06 09:51 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-05 08:32 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-06 09:51 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die pothead <pothead@snakebyte.com> - 2025-09-04 11:39 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-04 21:59 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-05 08:38 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-06 09:52 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-08 12:29 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-09-08 13:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-10 13:03 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-10 06:12 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-09-10 13:18 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-09-11 00:27 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-11 07:37 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-16 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-17 07:33 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-09-17 12:41 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-18 07:28 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-18 12:00 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-09-18 12:11 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-19 07:19 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-09-20 12:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die Gravole <x@y.com> - 2025-09-20 13:29 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-09-20 09:31 -0400
                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-09 09:20 -0400
                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 18:49 -0400
                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-10 10:39 -0400
                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-08-03 13:49 +0000
                                                                Re: Trump Wants You To Die Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 10:24 -0400
                                                                  Re: Trump Wants You To Die Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-08-06 01:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-06 10:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-08-07 10:17 +0000
                                                                        Re: Trump Wants You To Die "Dan LeGrand, Cedar Rapids, Iowa" <cx@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 14:34 +0000
                                                                          Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-07 11:03 -0700
                                                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-08-04 06:53 -0400
                            Re: Trump Wants You To Die gator alley <lunch@127.0.0.1> - 2025-07-05 20:06 +0000
                              Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-05 15:15 -0700
                            Neb. hospital will have to close because of the Big Billionaires Bill Re: Trump Wants You To Die Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-22 23:25 -0600
                    Re: Trump Wants You To Die NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-06-30 07:18 -0400
                      Re: Trump Wants You To Die "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-30 05:15 -0700

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#1189477 — Re: Trump Wants You To Die

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-17 13:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Trump Wants You To Die
Message-ID<102rqst$fvk$4@reader1.panix.com>
 | 
 | CDC virus expert resigns after RFK Jr.'s purge of vaccine
 | advisers
 | 
 | Fiona Havers, who oversaw CDC respiratory virus data, told
 | colleagues she no longer had confidence the data would be
 | used objectively to set vaccine policy.
 | ...
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/06/16/cdc-resignation-rfk-vaccine-covid/>

    --bks

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#1189597

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-06-18 07:36 -0400
Message-ID<s4955k1tpgb9hip95girg7so220csv92pf@4ax.com>
In reply to#1189477
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:34:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | CDC virus expert resigns after RFK Jr.'s purge of vaccine
> | advisers
> | 
> | Fiona Havers, who oversaw CDC respiratory virus data, told
> | colleagues she no longer had confidence the data would be
> | used objectively to set vaccine policy.
> | ...
><https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/06/16/cdc-resignation-rfk-vaccine-covid/>
>
>    --bks

Laughter.  The CDC was both ineffective and constantly changing its
stories during Covid.  The all should be replaced.

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#1189675

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-06-19 07:06 -0400
Message-ID<5pr75k518m79r20md0iob7v6m6bl75hq8o@4ax.com>
In reply to#1189597
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:36:40 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:34:21 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>> | 
>> | CDC virus expert resigns after RFK Jr.'s purge of vaccine
>> | advisers
>> | 
>> | Fiona Havers, who oversaw CDC respiratory virus data, told
>> | colleagues she no longer had confidence the data would be
>> | used objectively to set vaccine policy.
>> | ...
>><https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/06/16/cdc-resignation-rfk-vaccine-covid/>
>>
>>    --bks
>
>Laughter.  The CDC was both ineffective and constantly changing its
>stories during Covid.  The all should be replaced.

And Bradley has run away.

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#1189815

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-21 11:47 +0000
Message-ID<103663n$b1t$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1189675
>>> | CDC virus expert resigns after RFK Jr.'s purge of vaccine
>>> | advisers
>>> | 
>>> | Fiona Havers, who oversaw CDC respiratory virus data, told
>>> | colleagues she no longer had confidence the data would be
>>> | used objectively to set vaccine policy.

 | 
 | Trump administration officials on Friday finalized
 | regulations aimed at making it more difficult to enroll in
 | health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.
 | ...
<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-20/trump-administration-s-new-rule-will-limit-obamacare-enrollments>

    --bks

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#1189834

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-06-21 09:21 -0400
Message-ID<pecd5kl29nv4sr231vooadl0c90o1r8udq@4ax.com>
In reply to#1189815
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 11:47:04 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>> | CDC virus expert resigns after RFK Jr.'s purge of vaccine
>>>> | advisers
>>>> | 
>>>> | Fiona Havers, who oversaw CDC respiratory virus data, told
>>>> | colleagues she no longer had confidence the data would be
>>>> | used objectively to set vaccine policy.
>
> | 
> | Trump administration officials on Friday finalized
> | regulations aimed at making it more difficult to enroll in
> | health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.
> | ...
><https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-20/trump-administration-s-new-rule-will-limit-obamacare-enrollments>
>
>    --bks

Paywalled garbage noted.

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#1189849

FromMax Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com>
Date2025-06-21 10:04 -0700
Message-ID<WCB5Q.324181$b3%4.155162@fx14.iad>
In reply to#1189834
On 6/21/2025 6:21 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 11:47:04 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>>>>> | CDC virus expert resigns after RFK Jr.'s purge of vaccine
>>>>> | advisers
>>>>> |
>>>>> | Fiona Havers, who oversaw CDC respiratory virus data, told
>>>>> | colleagues she no longer had confidence the data would be
>>>>> | used objectively to set vaccine policy.
>>
>> |
>> | Trump administration officials on Friday finalized
>> | regulations aimed at making it more difficult to enroll in
>> | health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-20/trump-administration-s-new-rule-will-limit-obamacare-enrollments>
>>
>>     --bks
> 
> Paywalled garbage noted.

ad hominem noted

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#1190229

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-25 02:36 +0000
Message-ID<103fnbu$a6a$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1189849
 | 
 | A presentation slated to be shared at this week's meeting
 | of vaccine advisers to the US Centers for Disease Control
 | and Prevention claimed that a study in animals suggested
 | that use of the vaccine preservative thimerosal can have
 | "long-term consequences in the brain."
 | 
 | But the study doesn't appear to exist.
 | ... 
<https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/health/cdc-vaccine-adviser-thimerosal-presentation>

    --bks

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#1190317

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-06-25 07:46 -0400
Message-ID<0bon5k997qtl751kdsgasvh631cuic7s0o@4ax.com>
In reply to#1190229
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 02:36:46 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | A presentation slated to be shared at this week's meeting
> | of vaccine advisers to the US Centers for Disease Control
> | and Prevention claimed that a study in animals suggested
> | that use of the vaccine preservative thimerosal can have
> | "long-term consequences in the brain."
> | 
> | But the study doesn't appear to exist.
> | ... 
><https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/health/cdc-vaccine-adviser-thimerosal-presentation>
>
>    --bks


Someone finds an error in a Powerpoint and you think Trump is out to
kill everyone.

Paranoid much?

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#1190750

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-29 21:33 +0000
Message-ID<103sbf2$kue$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1190317
 | 
 | Every major health system in Louisiana is warning Speaker
 | Mike Johnson and the rest of the state's congressional
 | delegation that the Senate GOP's planned Medicaid cuts
 | "would be historic in their devastation."
 | 
 | The group sent the warning in a letter that also went to
 | Majority Leader Steve Scalise and GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy, a
 | physician who has also raised concerns about the cuts.
 | ... 
<https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/06/28/congress/louisiana-hospitals-warn-mike-johnson-of-devastation-from-megabill-00431385>

    --bks

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#1190796

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-30 09:45 +0000
Message-ID<103tmcb$129$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1190750
> | Every major health system in Louisiana is warning Speaker
> | Mike Johnson and the rest of the state's congressional
> | delegation that the Senate GOP's planned Medicaid cuts
> | "would be historic in their devastation."

 | 
 | Republicans' marquee domestic policy bill that is making
 | its way through the Senate would result in deeper cuts and
 | more Americans losing health insurance coverage than the
 | original measure that passed the House last month,
 | according to new estimates from the Congressional Budget
 | Office.
 | 
 | According to a report published late Saturday night, the
 | legislation would mean 11.8 million more Americans would
 | become uninsured by 2034. 
 | ... 
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/29/us/politics/trump-policy-bill-health-insurance-cuts.html>

    --bks

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#1190816

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-06-30 12:44 +0000
Message-ID<103u0rp$juo$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#1190796
> | According to a report published late Saturday night, the
> | legislation would mean 11.8 million more Americans would
> | become uninsured by 2034. 

 | 
 | After decades as a physician studying the factors that
 | determine our risks of getting sick and how long we live, I
 | am convinced that the actions of the Trump administration
 | will cost lives. Researchers like me know the data. For
 | years we have warned that Americans have shorter life
 | expectancies and higher disease rates than people in other
 | high-income countries.
 | 
 | Now, the poor health of Americans is about to get worse.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/30/opinion/hhs-cuts-harming-american-health.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare>

    --bks

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#1190820

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-06-30 13:22 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB30E546F2FC9629555@69.80.101.18>
In reply to#1190816
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:103u0rp$juo$1@reader2.panix.com: 

>> | According to a report published late Saturday night, the
>> | legislation would mean 11.8 million more Americans would
>> | become uninsured by 2034. 
> 
> | 
> | After decades as a physician studying the factors that
> | determine our risks of getting sick and how long we live, I
> | am convinced that the actions of the Trump administration
> | will cost lives. Researchers like me know the data. For
> | years we have warned that Americans have shorter life
> | expectancies and higher disease rates than people in other
> | high-income countries.
> | 
> | Now, the poor health of Americans is about to get worse.
> | ...
> <https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/30/opinion/hhs-cuts-harmin
> g-american-health.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleSh
> are> 
> 
>     --bks
> 


    Republicans want Americans to die, esp the
vulnerable older Americans. Part of their "pro
life" plank, you know. 





Texas Lt. Governor: Old People Should Volunteer 
to Die to Save the Economy
MARCH 24, 2020
https://tinyurl.com/be9bn9uv


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#1190899

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-07-01 07:27 -0400
Message-ID<sgh76klrng7cbmv90udau0fst7uvqeem54@4ax.com>
In reply to#1190816
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 12:44:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>> | According to a report published late Saturday night, the
>> | legislation would mean 11.8 million more Americans would
>> | become uninsured by 2034. 
>
> | 
> | After decades as a physician studying the factors that
> | determine our risks of getting sick and how long we live, I
> | am convinced that the actions of the Trump administration
> | will cost lives. Researchers like me know the data. For
> | years we have warned that Americans have shorter life
> | expectancies and higher disease rates than people in other
> | high-income countries.
> | 
> | Now, the poor health of Americans is about to get worse.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/30/opinion/hhs-cuts-harming-american-health.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare>
>
>    --bks

Paywalled garbage opinion piece noted.

Laughter.

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#1191282

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-07-05 00:02 +0000
Message-ID<1049q3f$nrq$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1190899
Curtis, Nebraska split 80%-20% for Trump over Harris:
 | 
 | The uncertainty over federal Medicaid funding appears to
 | have claimed its first victim in Nebraska.
 | 
 | Community Hospital in McCook announced Wednesday that it
 | will close Curtis Medical Center in Curtis, winding down
 | its services over the next several months.
 | 
 | "Unfortunately, the current financial environment, driven
 | by anticipated federal budget cuts to Medicaid, has made it
 | impossible for us to continue operating all of our
 | services, many of which have faced significant financial
 | challenges for years," Troy Bruntz, President and CEO of
 | Community Hospital, said in a news release.
 | ...
 | "Nebraska hospitals have been clear throughout this debate.
 | This package will undermine health care in our state, hurt
 | patients, and drive-up insurance premiums," said Jeremy
 | Nordquist, president of the Nebraska Hospital Association.
 | "These changes will impose unprecedented cuts that threaten
 | access to care, essential services, and the economic
 | stability of hospitals across our region."
 | ...
<https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/en/news/news-articles/southwest-nebraska-hospital-announces-plans-to-close-blames-uncertainty-over-funding/>

    --bks

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#1191292

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Date2025-07-05 02:09 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB312D695E12CE629555@185.151.15.160>
In reply to#1191282
bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:1049q3f$nrq$2@reader1.panix.com: 

> Curtis, Nebraska split 80%-20% for Trump over Harris:
> | 
> | The uncertainty over federal Medicaid funding appears to
> | have claimed its first victim in Nebraska.
> | 
> | Community Hospital in McCook announced Wednesday that it
> | will close Curtis Medical Center in Curtis, winding down
> | its services over the next several months.
> | 
> | "Unfortunately, the current financial environment, driven
> | by anticipated federal budget cuts to Medicaid, has made it
> | impossible for us to continue operating all of our
> | services, many of which have faced significant financial
> | challenges for years," Troy Bruntz, President and CEO of
> | Community Hospital, said in a news release.
> | ...
> | "Nebraska hospitals have been clear throughout this debate.
> | This package will undermine health care in our state, hurt
> | patients, and drive-up insurance premiums," said Jeremy
> | Nordquist, president of the Nebraska Hospital Association.
> | "These changes will impose unprecedented cuts that threaten
> | access to care, essential services, and the economic
> | stability of hospitals across our region."
> | ...
> <https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/en/news/news-articles/southwest-nebras
> ka-hospital-announces-plans-to-close-blames-uncertainty-over-funding/> 
> 
>     --bks
> 



 "Sure Trump closed our hospital and fired
my wife from her VA job and our farm is 
being foreclosed but hey, he is stickin'
to the libs and that is all that matters"





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#1191331

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-07-05 09:15 -0400
Message-ID<689i6khsekcojs5qvfpvv6n9i5rbngkev5@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191282
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:02:55 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Curtis, Nebraska split 80%-20% for Trump over Harris:
> | 
> | The uncertainty over federal Medicaid funding appears to
> | have claimed its first victim in Nebraska.
> | 
> | Community Hospital in McCook announced Wednesday that it
> | will close Curtis Medical Center in Curtis, winding down
> | its services over the next several months.
> | 
> | "Unfortunately, the current financial environment, driven
> | by anticipated federal budget cuts to Medicaid, has made it
> | impossible for us to continue operating all of our
> | services, many of which have faced significant financial
> | challenges for years," Troy Bruntz, President and CEO of
> | Community Hospital, said in a news release.
> | ...
> | "Nebraska hospitals have been clear throughout this debate.
> | This package will undermine health care in our state, hurt
> | patients, and drive-up insurance premiums," said Jeremy
> | Nordquist, president of the Nebraska Hospital Association.
> | "These changes will impose unprecedented cuts that threaten
> | access to care, essential services, and the economic
> | stability of hospitals across our region."
> | ...
><https://nebraskapublicmedia.org/en/news/news-articles/southwest-nebraska-hospital-announces-plans-to-close-blames-uncertainty-over-funding/>
>
>    --bks

Let the excuse making begin.

You forgot to quote this:

"We currently have six hospitals that that we feel are in a critical
financial state, three that are in an impending kind of closure or
conversion over to the rural emergency hospital model,” Jed Hansen,
executive director for the Nebraska Rural Health Association, said
during the meeting. "

This means they are ALREADY in trouble.  Their failures have very
little to do with "cuts" that aren't actually cuts.

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#1191337

From"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2025-07-05 06:29 -0700
Message-ID<104b9cd$1gjup$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1191331
NoBody wrote:
> Let the excuse making begin.

Why? I do not live in Nebraska. Why should be concerned with their 
medical care?

-- 
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Thank goodness my iron lung is working again!       /|\
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of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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#1191460

FromNoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Date2025-07-06 09:48 -0400
Message-ID<bkvk6khfqugq2s0ea4ch68c3cn7jokq4n1@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191337
On Sat, 05 Jul 2025 06:29:48 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> Let the excuse making begin.
>
>Why? I do not live in Nebraska. Why should be concerned with their 
>medical care?

Then why did you post?  I wasn't replying to you.

Laughter!

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#1191810

Frombks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
Date2025-07-10 13:44 +0000
Message-ID<104og4a$h7q$2@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1191460
 | 
 | Inside the Collapse of the F.D.A.
 | 
 | How the new health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is
 | dismantling the agency.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/magazine/fda-collapse-rfk-kennedy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VU8.FunX.oWzlGEF1TnTq&smid=url-share>

    --bks

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#1191827

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-07-10 15:46 -0400
Message-ID<fp507kpi51j8n00sg641n29ucj985hdo1a@4ax.com>
In reply to#1191810
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 13:44:42 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | Inside the Collapse of the F.D.A.
> | 
> | How the new health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is
> | dismantling the agency.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/magazine/fda-collapse-rfk-kennedy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VU8.FunX.oWzlGEF1TnTq&smid=url-share>
>
>    --bks

The article points out that not all the fired FDA workers were being
paid out of the Federal budget.

"Most offices were understaffed, almost as a rule, he said. The ones
that weren't tended to be paid for by user fees (money that drug and
device makers give the agency to cover the cost of reviewing their
products). But neither DOGE members who counted those layoffs as a
cost-cutting win nor the health secretary himself seemed aware of this
fact."

How can firing an employee being paid by somebody else help reduce the
cost of running the department?
-- 
8647!

https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget

What ARE we spending it on ... really?

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