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The simulation hypothesis

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First post2022-11-09 18:11 +0000
Last post2025-07-21 01:35 -0500
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  The simulation hypothesis Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2022-11-09 18:11 +0000
    Re: The simulation hypothesis "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> - 2025-07-20 20:07 -0500
      Re: The simulation hypothesis Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2025-07-21 06:27 +0000
        Re: The simulation hypothesis Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2025-07-21 06:30 +0000
        Re: The simulation hypothesis "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> - 2025-07-21 01:35 -0500

#35481 — The simulation hypothesis

FromCreon <creon@creon.earth>
Date2022-11-09 18:11 +0000
SubjectThe simulation hypothesis
Message-ID<pan$805c0$d0761f8a$492af16e$421fa86c@creon.earth>
The more I play with AI models, the more I wonder
what it would take to simulate reality.

When I'm gaming (usually Elite Dangerous), I'm immersed
in the environment, much like a person can lose themselves
in a book.  Then I come back to "reality".

Are people so immersed in this world that they don't remember who
they are?

File under: budding artist's childish musings.

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 -Creon

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#36332

From"Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
Date2025-07-20 20:07 -0500
Message-ID<me5i77Fmmc3U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35481
Creon wrote:
> The more I play with AI models, the more I wonder
> what it would take to simulate reality.
> 
> When I'm gaming (usually Elite Dangerous), I'm immersed
> in the environment, much like a person can lose themselves
> in a book.  Then I come back to "reality".
> 
> Are people so immersed in this world that they don't remember who
> they are?
> 
> File under: budding artist's childish musings.
> 
I used to get that way with video games.  Probably the last one was 
Ascendancy.  Then the critics dogged it so hard it pulled the place mat 
out from under my falling key.

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Hasbro

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#36340

FromCreon <creon@creon.earth>
Date2025-07-21 06:27 +0000
Message-ID<m5lfQ.580991$z995.411316@fx48.iad>
In reply to#36332
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:07:52 -0500, Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby wrote:

> Creon wrote:
>> The more I play with AI models, the more I wonder what it would take to
>> simulate reality.
>> 
>> When I'm gaming (usually Elite Dangerous), I'm immersed in the
>> environment, much like a person can lose themselves in a book.  Then I
>> come back to "reality".
>> 
>> Are people so immersed in this world that they don't remember who they
>> are?
>> 
>> File under: budding artist's childish musings.
>> 
> I used to get that way with video games.  Probably the last one was
> Ascendancy.  Then the critics dogged it so hard it pulled the place mat
> out from under my falling key.

Wow, an answer to my post dated:

Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:11:29 GMT

There's a guy that gave a google talk that used polarized
filters to show weirdness with quantum indeterminancy, and
figured that the answers to spooky quantim mechanical behavior
could be found in information theory.  At one point he says,
"I think we're living in a simulation."

There was a bit of scoffing and disbelief, but he does show
evidence for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc

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-c

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#36341

FromCreon <creon@creon.earth>
Date2025-07-21 06:30 +0000
Message-ID<98lfQ.580992$z995.197761@fx48.iad>
In reply to#36340
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 06:27:30 GMT, Creon wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:07:52 -0500, Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby wrote:
> 
>> Creon wrote:
>>> The more I play with AI models, the more I wonder what it would take
>>> to simulate reality.
>>> 
>>> When I'm gaming (usually Elite Dangerous), I'm immersed in the
>>> environment, much like a person can lose themselves in a book.  Then I
>>> come back to "reality".
>>> 
>>> Are people so immersed in this world that they don't remember who they
>>> are?
>>> 
>>> File under: budding artist's childish musings.
>>> 
>> I used to get that way with video games.  Probably the last one was
>> Ascendancy.  Then the critics dogged it so hard it pulled the place mat
>> out from under my falling key.
> 
> Wow, an answer to my post dated:
> 
> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:11:29 GMT
> 
> There's a guy that gave a google talk that used polarized filters to
> show weirdness with quantum indeterminancy, and figured that the answers
> to spooky quantim

quantUm

> mechanical behavior could be found in information
> theory.  At one point he says,
> "I think we're living in a simulation."
> 
> There was a bit of scoffing and disbelief, but he does show evidence for
> it.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc

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-c

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#36342

From"Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
Date2025-07-21 01:35 -0500
Message-ID<me65dkFpo5nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36340
Creon wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:07:52 -0500, Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby wrote:
> 
>> Creon wrote:
>>> The more I play with AI models, the more I wonder what it would take to
>>> simulate reality.
>>>
>>> When I'm gaming (usually Elite Dangerous), I'm immersed in the
>>> environment, much like a person can lose themselves in a book.  Then I
>>> come back to "reality".
>>>
>>> Are people so immersed in this world that they don't remember who they
>>> are?
>>>
>>> File under: budding artist's childish musings.
>>>
>> I used to get that way with video games.  Probably the last one was
>> Ascendancy.  Then the critics dogged it so hard it pulled the place mat
>> out from under my falling key.
> 
> Wow, an answer to my post dated:
> 
> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:11:29 GMT
> 
> There's a guy that gave a google talk that used polarized
> filters to show weirdness with quantum indeterminancy, and
> figured that the answers to spooky quantim mechanical behavior
> could be found in information theory.  At one point he says,
> "I think we're living in a simulation."
> 
> There was a bit of scoffing and disbelief, but he does show
> evidence for it.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc
> 
Pardon me, I'm just being impersonally rude in order that some of the 
oldbies might show themselves like the cockroaches THEY ARE from out of 
the woodwork.

Science already proved we're not in a simulation.  Science doesn't make 
mistakes it only changes its mind.  In ten years they may decide we're 
in a simulation, nothing wrong with that, SCIENCE.

-- 
Hasbro

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