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| Started by | Internetado <internetado@alt119.net.invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-09-05 18:03 -0300 |
| Last post | 2018-09-16 19:10 -0400 |
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Space Station Leak May Have Been Caused by Human Error, Russian Reports Say Internetado <internetado@alt119.net.invalid> - 2018-09-05 18:03 -0300
Re: Space Station Leak May Have Been Caused by Human Error, Russian Reports Say "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-09-15 10:52 +0100
Re: Space Station Leak May Have Been Caused by Human Error, Russian Reports Say Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2018-09-16 09:08 -0400
Re: Space Station Leak May Have Been Caused by Human Error, Russian Reports Say Chris Jones <clj@panix.com> - 2018-09-16 12:52 -0400
Re: Space Station Leak May Have Been Caused by Human Error, Russian Reports Say Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2018-09-16 19:10 -0400
| From | Internetado <internetado@alt119.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 18:03 -0300 |
| Subject | Space Station Leak May Have Been Caused by Human Error, Russian Reports Say |
| Message-ID | <pmp5op.jo.1@news.alt119.net> |
A small leak detected last week in a Soyuz transport capsule temporarily docked to the International Space Station may have been caused by a human before the spacecraft launched, according to Russian reports. The Soyuz is the only spacecraft currently able to bring crewmembers to the space station, and it remains connected to the orbiting laboratory until they head home again. [...] https://www.space.com/41712-space-station-leak-human-error-russia-says.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20180905-sdc -- Eduardo ---------- Alt119 - Alternate News www.alt119.net - Art Culture Lusophony
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| From | "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-09-15 10:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pnikpk$j6f$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3740 |
I'd have thought though that if it was in the capsule, then it would have shown up while in the flight to the station. Unless of course the problem was some kind of seal at the docking point. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active Remember, if you don't like where I post or what I say, you don't have to read my posts! :-) "Internetado" <internetado@alt119.net.invalid> wrote in message news:pmp5op.jo.1@news.alt119.net... >A small leak detected last week in a Soyuz transport capsule temporarily >docked to the International Space Station may have been caused by a human >before the spacecraft launched, according to Russian reports. The Soyuz is >the only spacecraft currently able to bring crewmembers to the space >station, and it remains connected to the orbiting laboratory until they >head home again. [...] > > https://www.space.com/41712-space-station-leak-human-error-russia-says.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20180905-sdc > > -- > Eduardo > ---------- > Alt119 - Alternate News > www.alt119.net - Art Culture Lusophony
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-16 09:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.36081ff83609d304989b46@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3741 |
In article <pnikpk$j6f$1@dont-email.me>, briang1@blueyonder.co.uk says... > > I'd have thought though that if it was in the capsule, then it would have > shown up while in the flight to the station. > Unless of course the problem was some kind of seal at the docking point. Speculation is that a worker accidentally drilled the hole then filled it with glue, or something similar. Thermal cycling, exposure to vacuum on one side, and the one atmosphere pressure load on the other eventually caused it to fail. The other theory that Russia has floated is that an astronaut drilled the hole while the Soyuz was docked to ISS. They have also floated the suggestion that an unplanned EVA be performed to cut back the insulation on the outside of the module to allow for inspection. I'm not sure how that would provide any useful data though. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Chris Jones <clj@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-16 12:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vriv5zz5l6zp.fsf@panix.com> |
| In reply to | #3742 |
Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> writes: [...] > suggestion that an unplanned EVA be performed to cut back the insulation > on the outside of the module to allow for inspection. I'm not sure how > that would provide any useful data though. The idea is that if they find residue of a sealant near the hole, it had to be made on the ground.
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-16 19:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3608acfaa5d4d267989b47@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3743 |
In article <vriv5zz5l6zp.fsf@panix.com>, clj@panix.com says... > > Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> writes: > > [...] > > > suggestion that an unplanned EVA be performed to cut back the insulation > > on the outside of the module to allow for inspection. I'm not sure how > > that would provide any useful data though. > > The idea is that if they find residue of a sealant near the hole, it had > to be made on the ground. That sounds reasonable. But the actual EVA would be difficult considering that doing delicate work in a pressure suit is extremely difficult. They might accidentally dislodge the residue they're looking for. Also, stuff literally floats away on EVAs, so absence of any sealant wouldn't necessarily be conclusive. So it might not prove useful to do such an EVA. If such an EVA were to be performed, it would be nice if it were done by one Russian and one American. Kind of like counting ballots requires representatives of major parties to be present. IMHO, of course. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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