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| Started by | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| First post | 2016-09-27 15:41 -0400 |
| Last post | 2017-03-16 20:19 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 380 — 21 participants |
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Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-27 15:41 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 21:05 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 04:15 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 16:07 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-01 09:55 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-01 17:33 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-10-01 15:49 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-10-01 15:54 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 22:39 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:20 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-02 15:02 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:47 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:39 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 18:44 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:58 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 22:48 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 03:55 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 12:13 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 16:17 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 20:43 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 00:12 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 13:19 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 00:39 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:28 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:57 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 21:47 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 04:06 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 12:20 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-02 10:06 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:00 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 10:58 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-01 20:29 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-01 23:03 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-02 10:11 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 09:28 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-02 14:28 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-03 06:35 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:16 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:52 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 22:14 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 04:25 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 12:39 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 21:21 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:17 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-02 09:59 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 10:16 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 10:57 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-02 14:53 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 18:24 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-10-10 00:50 +0200
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-09 19:32 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-10 02:38 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 10:12 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-10 06:21 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-10 16:14 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars dumpster4@hotmail.com - 2016-10-10 14:50 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 15:59 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 08:09 +0000
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 03:29 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 11:23 +0000
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 05:32 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-10-11 23:54 +0200
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:42 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 00:42 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:57 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 16:45 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-10-01 15:54 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:59 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 22:21 -0700
A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 05:39 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 14:57 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 19:05 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2016-10-11 22:56 +0300
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:56 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:44 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 21:46 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 19:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:59 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-11 19:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 19:19 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 20:51 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:42 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:03 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:40 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:20 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:26 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:13 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 13:36 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 11:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 12:40 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:53 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:36 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:54 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:10 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:07 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:39 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-16 22:13 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:27 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 17:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 21:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 08:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:48 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:03 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:14 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 17:52 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:10 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 18:29 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 20:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:51 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 14:03 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:01 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 20:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:45 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:48 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 09:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 16:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-19 19:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 19:27 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:08 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 12:15 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:37 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:52 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:16 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:43 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:22 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:20 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 01:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-12 19:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 06:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:01 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:07 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:35 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 18:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 07:12 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 06:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 17:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:47 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:31 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 12:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-10-17 13:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:24 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 00:00 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:36 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:01 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:12 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:08 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 11:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:42 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 00:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:59 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:14 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:52 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 20:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 08:05 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:06 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 21:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 02:51 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:01 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 07:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 07:29 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:20 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:08 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:25 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 03:46 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 04:15 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 04:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 04:39 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:04 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:18 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 15:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:30 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 00:00 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 20:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 05:28 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 07:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:13 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:53 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 04:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 06:47 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 16:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 18:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 20:58 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:03 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:52 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:01 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 09:51 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:34 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 08:06 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:30 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:11 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 21:40 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 02:57 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:30 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:14 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 19:11 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 23:28 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 19:59 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 02:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 04:07 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:29 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 16:54 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:14 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 12:19 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:15 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:37 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 18:36 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 18:48 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:42 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:19 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-10-17 13:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:42 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:16 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 08:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 09:47 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:28 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:20 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-15 16:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-15 20:00 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:39 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:24 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 08:57 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:46 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:41 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 21:18 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 07:53 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 13:28 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:17 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:40 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:21 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 21:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 23:04 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:47 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:03 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:29 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:25 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-10-16 18:36 +0100
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-14 20:08 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 04:00 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:20 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:34 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 20:42 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 21:23 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 09:37 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 02:04 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 07:44 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 02:00 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 07:42 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:14 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:27 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:28 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:26 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:34 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:25 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-10-15 19:28 +0200
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:22 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:21 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 18:38 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 09:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 13:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 18:38 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 20:28 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 00:58 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 08:12 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 17:24 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:38 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:32 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 13:43 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 16:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 19:00 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:15 -0400
ITS upper stage as an SSTO. (was Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars.) "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-03-15 10:34 -0400
Triple cored ITS upper stage as a 1,000,000 lbs launcher.(was: Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars.) "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2017-03-15 11:14 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars eaglesondouglas@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 11:12 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 14:15 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-03-15 20:36 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-16 00:57 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 23:00 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-16 13:31 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 16:12 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-03-16 20:26 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 17:38 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-03-16 20:47 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars nj_kruse@me.com (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2017-03-17 15:22 +0100
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 08:03 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-03-18 12:19 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-18 17:26 -0400
Re: Musk plans for mars Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2017-03-18 19:20 -0700
Re: Musk plans for mars Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2017-03-16 20:19 -0400
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 10:01 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu5dgt$ish$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58506 |
On 10/18/2016 9:30 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >> In sci.physics Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>> You are saying throw some dirt and water in a blender and watch the >>> calcium carbonate pop out. >>> >>> Now show me. >> Funny how all the large deposits on Earth are biological in origin >> and if it hasn't been geologically processed too much you can see >> the skeltons under a microscope. >> > > Funny how that's not true. We've got this stuff out here called > caliche, which is essentially calcium carbonate... > > you jump to your "not ture" conclusions way too fast caliche has some calcium carbonate from small to tiny old sea critters, the whitish stuff, but take a look at it under the microscope in some of the caliche here you can see the structures of the critters, in other caliches here we have entire shells.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-17 17:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <dqra0c96tcsajsojrcrirqtvab37k04rlo@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58471 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/17/2016 7:51 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>
>
>
>>>
>>> The issue is large, highly concentrated amounts and those only come
>>>from biological action, so if any large concentrated amounts of
>>> calcium based minerals were found on Mars, the headlines would be
>>> screaming about proof of previous life found on Mars.
>
>that is how limestone and marble formed on Earth, via biological action.
>
And yet marble and other calcium minerals are found on Mars. Explain.
>
>> You're simply wrong. All it takes to get areas with rocks having a
>> high concentration of calcium carbonate is for there to used to be
>> water there.
>
>obviously wrong.
>
So reality is obviously wrong.
>
>You are saying throw some dirt and water in a blender and watch the
>calcium carbonate pop out.
>
No, YOU are saying that.
>
>Now show me.
>
It's impossible to show you anything. There isn't enough dynamite in
the world to blow your head out of your ass.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-17 20:49 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu3v2u$b13$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58488 |
On 10/17/2016 7:45 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/17/2016 7:51 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> The issue is large, highly concentrated amounts and those only come >>> >from biological action, so if any large concentrated amounts of >>>> calcium based minerals were found on Mars, the headlines would be >>>> screaming about proof of previous life found on Mars. >> >> that is how limestone and marble formed on Earth, via biological action. >> > > And yet marble and other calcium minerals are found on Mars. Explain. Cite ? or are you making stuff up again. no marble on mars Your assertion, you explain it. We understand if you cant.... >>> You're simply wrong. All it takes to get areas with rocks having a >>> high concentration of calcium carbonate is for there to used to be >>> water there. >> >> obviously wrong. >> > > So reality is obviously wrong. Trumps reality or Hiellarys ? > >> >> You are saying throw some dirt and water in a blender and watch the >> calcium carbonate pop out. >> > > No, YOU are saying that. again, no thought, no chemistry background, you should have replied, acidic water... but tooo Late, you have been judged by a jury of your piers and found to be..... too general. > >> >> Now show me. >> > > It's impossible to show me anything. There isn't enough dynamite in > the world to blow my head out of my ass. dude, I take fiber daily. and you are projecting again. > >
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-17 05:28 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <pug90c5nkigbb95s3qpi368qcnk9scfiov@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58444 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: And argument that things that rovers and probes have actually found don't actually exist... >On 10/16/2016 7:17 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>> In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>> says... >>>>> > >>>>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however >>>>> that is not going to be cheap. >>>> >>>> Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". >>>> Progress! >>>> >>>> Jeff >>> >>> Who said "not possible"? >>> >>> It certainly wasn't me. >>> >> >> Yet that's the attitude everyone hears you having, > >you do not speak for everyone, you speak to yourself. > >> >>> >>> The closest thing to "not possible" I've said is that the following >>> are unknowns on Mars. >>> >>> If water is available in quantity anywhere other than the poles. >>> >> >> Not an unknown. We know >>.there are huge subsurface ice deposits >> elsewhere than the poles. > >no, you dont know that. it is only conjecture, not known. > >> >>> >>> If there are concentrated usefull mineral deposits in general and >>> >> >> Not an unknown. We know there's hematite and other iron ores. > >Cite? where is your hematite mine ? > >iron makes the planet red, but it is not know of any concentrated >mineral deposits. > >> >>> >>> concentrated calcium deposits in particular as all the concentrated >>> calcium deposits on Earth are the result of biology. >>> >> >> Not an unknown. Calcium concentrations and minerals such as dolomite >> and marble are one of the indications on Mars that there was surface >> water. > >Cite ? > >
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-16 14:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu0lip$1981$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58420 |
On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > says... >> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>> says... >>>> >>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>> says... >>>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>> >>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere >>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep >>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport >>> ships. >> >> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however >> that is not going to be cheap. > > Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". > Progress! liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. Try again, this time hire some intelligent people to help you, and lead you. https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hillary_screaming.jpg > > Jeff >
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-16 23:45 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <q1gddd-mh7.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58426 |
In sci.physics Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: >> In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >> says... > >>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>> says... >>>>> >>>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> > >>>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere >>>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep >>>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport >>>> ships. >>> >>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however >>> that is not going to be cheap. >> >> Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". >> Progress! > > liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. It is obviously possible to transport a reactor to Mars. The question is how is it to be done; lots of small assembled reactors, large reactors in pieces, something in between? Likely one would want to ship the fuel separately, perhaps all in one shipment to minimize the red tape of putting nuclear material on a rocket. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 08:48 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.326fe425e9c402e398984b@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #58426 |
In article <nu0lip$1981$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > > In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > > says... > > >> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > >>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>> says... > >>>> > >>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>> > > >>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere > >>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep > >>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport > >>> ships. > >> > >> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however > >> that is not going to be cheap. > > > > Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". > > Progress! > > liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. > > Try again, this time hire some intelligent people to help you, and lead > you. > > https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hillary_screaming.jpg You really are proving to be an annoying little troll, unwilling to even look at the evidence (including cites) provided. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-18 10:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu5drl$jgi$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58503 |
On 10/18/2016 7:48 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <nu0lip$1981$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> >> On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>> In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>> says... >> >>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>> says... >>>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>> >>>>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere >>>>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep >>>>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport >>>>> ships. >>>> >>>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however >>>> that is not going to be cheap. >>> >>> Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". >>> Progress! >> >> liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. >> Try again, this time hire some intelligent people to help you, and lead >> you. >> >> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hillary_screaming.jpg > > You really are proving to be an annoying little troll, unwilling to even > look at the evidence (including cites) provided. > > Jeff > isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] She has already re-purposed the funding for the "US Occupation of Planet Mars" to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne Room, and barracks for the subservient.
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 07:15 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.32711fc8b804dd0b989851@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #58510 |
In article <nu5drl$jgi$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/18/2016 7:48 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > > In article <nu0lip$1981$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > >> > >> On 10/16/2016 8:25 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > >>> In article <a8j7dd-voh.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>> says... > >> > >>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>> In article <j2j5dd-cab.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>> says... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In sci.physics Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <4vt0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com > >>>>>>> says... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <snip> > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>> return ship can produce liquid methane and LOX from the CO2 atmosphere > >>>>> and H2 brought on the ship. If we end up going that route, just keep > >>>>> leaving nuclear reactors on Mars brought from earth on the transport > >>>>> ships. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, just keep sending reactors until you have enough power, however > >>>> that is not going to be cheap. > >>> > >>> Well, we've moved from "not possible" to "possible but not cheap". > >>> Progress! > >> > >> liar. YOU have not shown, nor demonstrated, that it is possible. > > >> Try again, this time hire some intelligent people to help you, and lead > >> you. > >> > >> https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/hillary_screaming.jpg > > > > You really are proving to be an annoying little troll, unwilling to even > > look at the evidence (including cites) provided. > > > > Jeff > > > > isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] > > She has already re-purposed the funding for the > "US Occupation of Planet Mars" > to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne You really are being a ass aren't you? Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 09:02 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58532 |
>> isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] >> >> She has already re-purposed the funding for the >> "US Occupation of Planet Mars" >> to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne > > You really are being a ass aren't you? > > Jeff > well you're abrasive asshole, it is what you do, but that is expected as you have little scientific/engineering facts to contribute. your "Occupy Mars" idiocy is in with the Smoke-um Dope-um crowd. and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars" try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all the regulations, and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ? Space Elevator too ?
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 16:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3271a1c61d389432989854@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #58536 |
In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > >> isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh] > >> > >> She has already re-purposed the funding for the > >> "US Occupation of Planet Mars" > >> to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne > > > > You really are being a ass aren't you? > > > > Jeff > > > > well you're abrasive asshole, it is what you do, but that is expected as > you have little scientific/engineering facts to contribute. LOL, you mean like the cites provided that you've largely ignored? > your "Occupy Mars" idiocy is in with the Smoke-um Dope-um crowd. Wrong crowd. I have an aerospace engineering degree and don't tend to hang out with the "Smoke-um Dope-um crowd". More like the hang out with other engineers at lunch on Friday and have one beer. > and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars" That wasn't me, but there is nothing fundamental which prevents doing such a thing. > try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all > the regulations, Mars is going to have the same regulations then? > and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ? Who said anything about releasing waste from the process to pollute the planet? > Space Elevator too ? Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot better than chemical propulsion. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 19:38 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu9060$h3p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58544 |
On Oct/19/2016 at 4:29 PM, Jeff Findley wrote : > In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> Space Elevator too ? > > Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in > the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot > better than chemical propulsion. If you are talking about a space elevator for Mars, materials are not really a problem. Mars' lower gravity means existing materials should do. Phobos is more of a problem. Not a show stopper, an elevator anchored away from the equator could be done. Still Phobos is very inconvenient. The real reason why we aren't developing a Mars space elevator is that the traffic between Mars and space isn't high enough to warrant the investment. Alain Fournier
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 19:27 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <nu932l$b58$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58544 |
On 10/19/2016 3:29 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > Wrong crowd. I have an aerospace engineering degree and don't tend to > hang out with the "Smoke-um Dope-um crowd". More like the hang out with > other engineers at lunch on Friday and have one beer. Excellent! > >> and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars" > > That wasn't me, but there is nothing fundamental which prevents doing > such a thing. > >> try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all >> the regulations, > > Mars is going to have the same regulations then? most likely run from Brussels now, they set the laws for EU rest of the world. NASA has its own process for building and launching rockets tracking materials, Im sure is flowed down to SpaceX and others. (I was on a few projects that went on Missiles) > >> and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ? > > Who said anything about releasing waste from the process to pollute the > planet? the greenies will, they wont let Mars turn into a 3rd world planet, perhaps it already is, un-inhabitable. the Steel Foundry and Mill will have to be enclosed, air tight. > >> Space Elevator too ? > > Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in > the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot > better than chemical propulsion. > > Jeff electrical? need rails to take the current. The "Space Elevator" has been replaced by the "Space Rubber band" just by growing a few rubber trees on Mars, we can build a very very large rubber band...
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-19 18:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <go8g0cpq6030lph930a0jnk9f4fo3ib88q@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58544 |
Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote:
>In article <nu7uei$eta$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>
>> >> isn't that a great pix of Hiellary, your leader. [ugh]
>> >>
>> >> She has already re-purposed the funding for the
>> >> "US Occupation of Planet Mars"
>> >> to her remodel of the "White House" into the "White Castle" with Throne
>> >
>> > You really are being a ass aren't you?
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>>
>> well you're abrasive asshole, it is what you do, but that is expected as
>> you have little scientific/engineering facts to contribute.
>
>LOL, you mean like the cites provided that you've largely ignored?
>
Well, he doesn't like the issues clouded with facts.
>
>> your "Occupy Mars" idiocy is in with the Smoke-um Dope-um crowd.
>
>Wrong crowd. I have an aerospace engineering degree and don't tend to
>hang out with the "Smoke-um Dope-um crowd". More like the hang out with
>other engineers at lunch on Friday and have one beer.
>
Yeah. I really don't know who this idiot thinks he's talking to or
just what his own background is, but I'm betting he's still living in
Mom's basement.
I made a pretty good living as an engineer for over 30 years, so this
moron's opinion is merely mildly humorous.
>
>> and moronic "Lets build a STEEL PLANT on Mars"
>
>That wasn't me, but there is nothing fundamental which prevents doing
>such a thing.
>
And AT SOME POINT you're going to want to do that and many other
things.
>
>> try building one in the USA first, extremly hard to do because of all
>> the regulations,
>
>Mars is going to have the same regulations then?
>
>> and now you want to go pollute a entire pristeen planet ?
>
>Who said anything about releasing waste from the process to pollute the
>planet?
>
And who cares if we do? This guy really does belong in the basement
of his Mom's cave gnawing on bushes.
>
>> Space Elevator too ?
>
>Once the materials are good enough and can be produced economically in
>the quantities needed, why hell not? In the long run it would be a lot
>better than chemical propulsion.
>
Space elevators make great thought experiments, but they're unlikely
to happen for a long, long time (if ever).
--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw
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| From | Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-13 08:08 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3269434337dfea8a989834@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #58225 |
In article <ntk4sd$ha1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > On 10/11/2016 7:51 PM, Alain Fournier wrote: > > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : > >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: > >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > > > >>> > >>>> no food, no water, no air. > >>> > >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) > >> > >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. > > > > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. > > but very little of it. Bullshit. Mars is a huge place. I suggest you look again at the research. No, there aren't oceans on Mars, but there is still *a lot* of water in absolute terms. > > > >>> and again a CO2 > >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. > >> > >> all moisture would leave the plant. > >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. > >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. > > > > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. > > > > the greenhouse would be the equivelent of a large tank and the light > would be dim due to outside dust. If this is a problem, just use "grow" lights. This is commonly used in hydroponics when the sun isn't shining brightly. > What atmosphere would you use ? > > you take up N2, must have that for breathing anyway. Sure, you might need some N2 for plants that "fix" N2 from the air, but I would think that nitrogen fertilizer would suffice (anhydrous ammonia is typically used on fields here in the Midwest for this purpose). There *is* nitrogen on Mars. Cite: March 24, 2015 NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen > Plants cannot live on CO2 alone. They get their bulk from more solid > substances like water and organic matter. This organic matter comes from > decomposing plants and animals or from man made fertilizers. And from animals (i.e. colonists) as solid waste. Again, here in the Midwest, manure from farm animals is commonly spread on fields as fertilizer. > Too high a concentration of CO2 causes a reduction of photosynthesis in > certain of plants. There is also evidence from the past of major damage > to a wide variety of plants species from a sudden rise in CO2 (See > illustrations below). Higher concentrations of CO2 also reduce the > nutritional quality of some staples, such as wheat. Again, there would be oxygen and nitrogen. Both are present on Mars. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of.
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 12:15 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <ntr3ra$1m36$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58285 |
On 10/13/2016 7:08 AM, Jeff Findley wrote: > In article <ntk4sd$ha1$1@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >> >> On 10/11/2016 7:51 PM, Alain Fournier wrote: >>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>> >>>>> >>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>> >>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>> >>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>> >>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >> >> but very little of it. > > Bullshit. Mars is a huge place. I suggest you look again at the > research. No, there aren't oceans on Mars, but there is still *a lot* > of water in absolute terms. > >>> >>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>> >>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>> >>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >>> >> >> the greenhouse would be the equivelent of a large tank and the light >> would be dim due to outside dust. > > If this is a problem, just use "grow" lights. This is commonly used in > hydroponics when the sun isn't shining brightly. > >> What atmosphere would you use ? >> >> you take up N2, must have that for breathing anyway. > > Sure, you might need some N2 for plants that "fix" N2 from the air, but > I would think that nitrogen fertilizer would suffice (anhydrous ammonia > is typically used on fields here in the Midwest for this purpose). > > There *is* nitrogen on Mars. Cite: > > March 24, 2015 > NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Biologically Useful Nitrogen on Mars > http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/mars-nitrogen if you read it, it says they detected nitric acid they detected came from either lighting strikes or metor hits, which means there is little to no nitric acid for use. not in useful quantities > >> Plants cannot live on CO2 alone. They get their bulk from more solid >> substances like water and organic matter. This organic matter comes from >> decomposing plants and animals or from man made fertilizers. > > And from animals (i.e. colonists) as solid waste. Again, here in the > Midwest, manure from farm animals is commonly spread on fields as > fertilizer. ship cow poop to Mars, instead of food. > >> Too high a concentration of CO2 causes a reduction of photosynthesis in >> certain of plants. There is also evidence from the past of major damage >> to a wide variety of plants species from a sudden rise in CO2 (See >> illustrations below). Higher concentrations of CO2 also reduce the >> nutritional quality of some staples, such as wheat. > > Again, there would be oxygen and nitrogen. Both are present on Mars. you would have to build a fertilizer plant up there. > > Jeff > amazing the amount of articals out with misleading information. but wait, the Mars movie by National Geographic is coming out soon, why feed the starving on Earth, when we can ship them to Mars ?
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 02:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <29k0dd-vco.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58224 |
In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: > On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... > >>> >>>> no food, no water, no air. >>> >>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >> >> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. > > Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. > >>> and again a CO2 >>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >> >> all moisture would leave the plant. >> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. > > You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-11 21:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <rddrvbl7srjpn1mldti0mictcgrq6nl9ov@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58227 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote :
>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:
>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says...
>>
>>>>
>>>>> no food, no water, no air.
>>>>
>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions)
>>>
>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable.
>>
>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture.
>>
>>>> and again a CO2
>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown.
>>>
>>> all moisture would leave the plant.
>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants.
>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years.
>>
>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done.
>
>Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done.
>
Just because you're lazy and against manned space flight doesn't mean
it shouldn't be done.
--
"Then tomorrow we may all be dead. But how is that different
from every other day?"
-- Morpheus
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| From | jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <f0u0dd-dap.ln1@mail.specsol.com> |
| In reply to | #58234 |
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >>In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: >>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>> >>>>> >>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>> >>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>> >>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>> >>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >>> >>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>> >>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>> >>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >> >>Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. >> > > Just because you're lazy and against manned space flight doesn't mean > it shouldn't be done. Still a troll ass hole, I see. plonk again as it must have expired. -- Jim Pennino
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-12 13:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. |
| Message-ID | <v46tvbhkmg0227462qps24gafuamd9fvvm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #58240 |
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >>>In sci.physics Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On Oct/11/2016 at 8:19 PM, Serigo wrote : >>>>> On 10/11/2016 6:10 PM, Jeff Findley wrote: >>>>>> In article <ntiqdi$7gt$3@gioia.aioe.org>, invalid@invalid.com says... >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> no food, no water, no air. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a bit of water on Mars (e.g. polar regions) >>>>> >>>>> conjecture, not proven and so little, unusable. >>>> >>>> Well, let's say it is a very strong conjecture. >>>> >>>>>> and again a CO2 >>>>>> atmosphere. Food could be grown. >>>>> >>>>> all moisture would leave the plant. >>>>> Not enough CO2 or atmosphereic pressure to support any plants. >>>>> Radiation will kill it off in a few years. >>>> >>>> You would do so in pressurized greenhouses. It can be done. >>> >>>Just because something can be done does not mean it should be done. >>> >> >> Just because you're lazy and against manned space flight doesn't mean >> it shouldn't be done. > >Still a troll ass hole, I see. > Now step away from the mirror. > >plonk again as it must have expired. > Better yet, just stop crossposting, asshole. -- You are What you do When it counts.
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