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Leaning tower of falcon 9

Started byJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
First post2016-06-03 13:14 -0400
Last post2016-06-19 22:40 -0400
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  Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-03 13:14 -0400
    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 14:08 -0400
      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-03 14:12 -0400
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 15:43 -0400
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 17:57 -0700
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-03 15:50 -0400
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 17:55 -0700
    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-03 15:48 -0400
      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-04 04:16 -0400
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 nj_kruse@me.com (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2016-06-04 10:58 +0200
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 08:26 -0700
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-04 14:23 -0400
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 15:16 -0700
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-06-06 18:51 +0000
      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-06-05 22:49 +0100
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-06 07:14 -0400
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-06-09 22:11 +0100
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-10 14:00 -0400
              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 13:56 -0700
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-10 18:30 -0400
                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 02:42 -0700
            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:47 -0400
              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-15 18:02 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-15 18:53 -0400
                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-15 19:41 -0400
                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-15 20:12 -0400
                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-15 22:18 -0400
                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-16 05:57 -0400
                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 08:47 -0700
                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-18 12:59 -0400
                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 08:45 -0700
                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-19 13:49 -0400
                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 10:56 -0700
                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-20 15:41 -0400
                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 14:30 -0700
                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-20 18:41 -0400
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-20 21:55 -0400
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 01:32 -0400
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 06:09 -0400
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 09:04 -0400
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 18:23 -0400
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 23:41 -0400
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:16 -0400
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 12:47 -0700
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-21 20:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-06-21 16:12 -0500
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-21 21:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-22 21:57 -0400
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 22:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 00:25 -0700
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 00:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:09 -0700
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-23 06:27 -0400
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 10:19 -0700
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-24 06:43 -0400
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 05:12 -0700
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:23 -0700
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 20:53 +0000
                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:37 -0700
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 22:20 +0000
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:31 -0700
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 17:45 +0000
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 14:27 -0700
                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 22:51 +0000
                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 05:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-24 15:54 +0000
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:47 +0000
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:31 -0700
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 00:57 +0000
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 19:55 -0700
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:28 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:15 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 21:39 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 22:43 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-04 16:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:06 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:03 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:00 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:06 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:23 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:21 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:35 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 17:46 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 02:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-04 09:33 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-06 16:58 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-07 00:17 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-07 14:07 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-07 19:05 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 02:48 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:03 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:00 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 23:47 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:28 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 08:47 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 17:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 17:43 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 02:54 +0000
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-02 23:01 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 21:43 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 22:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-04 16:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:11 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:10 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:07 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:20 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:37 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:33 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 09:59 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 18:06 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 03:11 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-08 01:16 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-03 22:25 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 19:40 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 nj_kruse@me.com (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2016-07-03 11:24 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:57 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-07-05 04:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-07-06 06:44 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-07 14:00 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-07-07 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-07-07 23:06 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 02:57 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-07-08 06:52 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-07-08 06:47 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:21 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-07-05 17:14 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-05 13:33 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 23:31 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-07-05 15:29 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 23:34 -0700
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 18:51 -0400
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:35 -0700
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 18:26 -0400
                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:32 -0700
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 22:39 -0400
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 05:01 +0000
                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 13:50 -0400
                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 18:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 15:07 -0400
                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 18:11 -0400
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-22 23:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-22 20:15 -0400
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 05:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 05:50 +0000
                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 10:22 -0700
                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 17:54 +0000
                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 15:24 -0700
                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-23 22:58 +0000
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 05:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-06-24 16:03 +0000
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-24 22:56 -0400
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 08:54 -0400
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-25 14:21 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:33 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:32 -0700
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:41 -0700
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:35 -0700
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-01 05:56 +0000
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 17:32 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 01:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 19:56 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 05:34 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 14:27 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-02 23:20 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 21:41 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:56 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:53 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-05 06:11 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 17:12 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-08 01:12 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 02:08 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-09 17:23 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 11:38 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 00:35 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 10:01 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-12 18:29 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 18:09 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-13 03:14 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-07-02 23:03 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-07-03 05:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-24 22:44 -0400
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 08:57 -0400
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-06-25 06:10 -0700
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:13 -0400
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-25 16:41 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:48 -0400
                                                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-25 14:31 -0400
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-25 16:39 -0400
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-25 16:43 -0400
                                                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-26 00:05 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-26 15:40 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-06-27 21:31 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-28 06:18 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-26 22:29 -0400
                                                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:36 -0700
                                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 23:28 -0700
                                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 00:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 12:36 -0700
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:31 -0700
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-06-21 15:37 +0000
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 18:27 -0400
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:11 -0700
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-21 09:02 -0400
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:59 -0700
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jonathan <writeInstead@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 05:12 -0400
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 20:55 -0700
                                                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-07-05 06:06 -0400
                                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:04 -0400
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-20 21:59 -0400
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 01:42 -0400
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-21 06:21 -0400
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:36 -0400
                                          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:34 -0700
                                            Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-21 13:54 -0400
                                              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 10:24 -0700
                                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:42 -0400
                                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:12 -0700
                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 04:30 -0700
                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-18 12:45 -0400
                        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 08:37 -0700
                      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-18 14:27 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 04:18 -0700
              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-17 06:25 -0400
              Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 08:12 -0400
                Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-20 13:57 -0400
                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 11:05 -0700
                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-20 21:47 -0400
                  Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-06-20 22:34 -0400
                    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:17 -0700
    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 17:53 -0700
    Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 bob haller <hallerb@aol.com> - 2016-06-18 15:09 -0700
      Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-19 15:55 -0400
        Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-06-19 22:05 -0400
          Re: Leaning tower of falcon 9 Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-06-19 22:40 -0400

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#56908

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-04 20:53 -0700
Message-ID<hnbmnbdl0tfvvhfits3i2f71q4a3mskjrh@4ax.com>
In reply to#56892
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>>
>>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>>specific location.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>>> inapt example.
>>> 
>>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>>
>> 
>> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
>> 
>>>
>>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>>> 
>>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>>
>> 
>> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
>>
> 
>So what?
>

So that's 'production', you stupid shit.  Just like Ford produces the
trucks that the companies in your inapt comparison to freight delivery
services use.


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#56913

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-05 06:11 +0000
Message-ID<jlvr4d-dn9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56908
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>>>
>>>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>>>specific location.
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>>>> inapt example.
>>>> 
>>>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>>>> 
>>>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
>>>
>> 
>>So what?
>>
> 
> So that's 'production', you stupid shit.  Just like Ford produces the
> trucks that the companies in your inapt comparison to freight delivery
> services use.
 
Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56934

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-07 17:12 -0700
Message-ID<7vrtnb5otfigm5uvuag0gadj50ddd8nnvq@4ax.com>
In reply to#56913
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Buy a fucking dictionary and look it up, Chimpshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>manufacture: the making of goods or wares by manual labor or by machinery,
>>>>>>>>>>>especially on a large scale
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Note nothing about 'selling' the results.  You're done.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>wares: articles of merchandise or manufacture; goods
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>merchandise: the manufactured goods bought and sold in any business
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>goods: articles of trade; wares; merchandise
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note that orbital services are 'wares'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>services: the performance of any duties or work for another
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>>>>>>>to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>>>>>>>specific location.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The difference is that SpaceX is also the truck manufacturer in your
>>>>>> inapt example.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Both FedEx and UPS use highly customized COTS delivery vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Note:  "COTS delivery vehicles".
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>As there are no COTS orbital delivery vehicles (at the present time),
>>>>>SpaceX has little choice in the matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>>But they are still nothing more than a freight delivery service.
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> That manufactures rockets and orbital capsules.
>>>>
>>> 
>>>So what?
>>>
>> 
>> So that's 'production', you stupid shit.  Just like Ford produces the
>> trucks that the companies in your inapt comparison to freight delivery
>> services use.
>>
> 
>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
> 

Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#56938

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-08 01:12 +0000
Message-ID<78b35d-ic9.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56934
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

<snip>
 
>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>> 
> 
> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
 
Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56955

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-09 02:08 -0700
Message-ID<1of1obhv0jn1ott26n33cmr123glsd1flp@4ax.com>
In reply to#56938
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>
><snip>
> 
>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>> 
>> 
>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
> 
>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
> 

But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
not.


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#56959

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-09 17:23 +0000
Message-ID<rgo75d-smp.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56955
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>> 
>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>> 
>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>> 
> 
> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
> not.
 
When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
to provoke an argument. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56965

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-10 11:38 -0700
Message-ID<pf55obllie34m31c9ppja8s7d579m3jq3p@4ax.com>
In reply to#56959
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>> 
>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>> 
>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>> 
>> 
>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>> not.
> 
>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>to provoke an argument. 
>

You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
commercial sale?


-- 
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
 territory."
                                      --G. Behn

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#56970

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-10 19:57 +0000
Message-ID<3vla5d-7q5.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56965
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>> 
>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>> 
>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>> not.
>> 
>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>to provoke an argument. 
>>
> 
> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
> commercial sale?
 
Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
a company.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56976

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-11 00:35 -0700
Message-ID<7vi6obt851lfvqr36lj8dj5lebkj21j7g7@4ax.com>
In reply to#56970
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>> not.
>>> 
>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>
>> 
>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>> commercial sale?
> 
>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>a company.
> 

Bullshit.  


-- 
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
 your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
                             -- Mark Twain

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#56984

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-11 15:59 +0000
Message-ID<vcsc5d-iuc.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56976
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>> not.
>>>> 
>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>
>>> 
>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>> commercial sale?
>> 
>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>a company.
>> 
> 
> Bullshit.  
 
Yes, you are full of it. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56995

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-12 10:01 -0700
Message-ID<lf8aobpfgj8jbta50f1q7dstclgehro64s@4ax.com>
In reply to#56984
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>> not.
>>>>> 
>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>> commercial sale?
>>> 
>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>a company.
>>> 
>> 
>> Bullshit.  
> 
>Yes, you are full of it. 
>

No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.

Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.


-- 
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
 your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
                             -- Mark Twain

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#57001

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-12 18:29 +0000
Message-ID<jhpf5d-m9m.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56995
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>>> commercial sale?
>>>> 
>>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>>a company.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bullshit.  
>> 
>>Yes, you are full of it. 
>>
> 
> No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.
> 
> Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
> definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.
 
Says you, tosser.

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#57009

FromFred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-12 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<d15bob17iup88fnmqu3k06i5rqg8opvure@4ax.com>
In reply to#57001
jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>>>> commercial sale?
>>>>> 
>>>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>>>a company.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit.  
>>> 
>>>Yes, you are full of it. 
>>>
>> 
>> No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.
>> 
>> Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
>> definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.
> 
>Says you, tosser.
>

Says pretty much everyone but you, wanker.  Try buying a dictionary.
Try asking anyone who actually knows what SpaceX and the Falcon
booster are whether SpaceX produces the Falcon booster.


-- 
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
 truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
                               -- Thomas Jefferson

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#57015

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-13 03:14 +0000
Message-ID<daog5d-3ap.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#57009
In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>><snip>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ford sells the trucks it makes, SpaceX only sells delivery service.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Which is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>Correct; selling delivery service is irrelevant to the idea of 'production'.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But producing the fucking vehicles to perform that service with is
>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>When "producing" is defined in an extremely narrow sense of the word simply
>>>>>>>>to provoke an argument. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You mean like what you're doing, where you have to narrow the
>>>>>>> definition of "produce" to only include things put forward for direct
>>>>>>> commercial sale?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Which is the commonly used definition of production when talking about
>>>>>>a company.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bullshit.  
>>>> 
>>>>Yes, you are full of it. 
>>>>
>>> 
>>> No, I'm just buried under it from you shoveling so much.
>>> 
>>> Let me make it clear.  Your statement about the "commonly used
>>> definition of production" is incorrect.  It is false.  It is a lie.
>> 
>>Says you, tosser.
>>
> 
> Says pretty much everyone but you, wanker.  Try buying a dictionary.
> Try asking anyone who actually knows what SpaceX and the Falcon
> booster are whether SpaceX produces the Falcon booster.
 
No wonder you know nothing about 14 CFR.

Well hot flash, the aviation regs in the UK are essentially identical
to the US. 


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56882

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2016-07-02 23:03 -0400
Message-ID<57788099$0$9125$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#56868
On 2016-07-02 01:34, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:

> SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
> to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
> specific location.


You mean that SpaceX will leave a card in low orbit and return the
satellite to some distant depot like UPS does ? :-)

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#56893

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2016-07-03 05:57 +0000
Message-ID<l3mm4d-ill.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#56882
In sci.physics JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-07-02 01:34, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>> SpaceX is a delivery service who's business model is almost identical
>> to UPS and FedX, i.e. all three accept cargo to be delivered to a
>> specific location.
> 
> 
> You mean that SpaceX will leave a card in low orbit and return the
> satellite to some distant depot like UPS does ? :-)

Only if no one is home and the delivery requires a signed receipt. 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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#56801

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2016-06-24 22:44 -0400
Message-ID<576df025$0$25299$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#56792
On 2016-06-23 18:58, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> SpaceX manufactures as needed for their own use. SpaceX is
> selling launch services, not space ships, Space Cadet McCrap.


Obviously the case for commercial launches.  But what about NASA
launches to ISS ?  I assume NASA buys the Dragon spacecraft and owns it?

What about stage2 and stage1 ? Do they remain SpaceX property despite
being lauched by NASA ?

Or does KSC and Houston mission controls really just play an observer
role in this and Hawthorne is the real driver seat ?

(NASA TV seems to make it look like KSC and Houston play a major role
with Hawthorne just "monitoring things".

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#56804

FromJeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com>
Date2016-06-25 08:57 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31d849e29e53f7f7989780@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#56801
In article <576df025$0$25299$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>, 
jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca says...
> 
> On 2016-06-23 18:58, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > SpaceX manufactures as needed for their own use. SpaceX is
> > selling launch services, not space ships, Space Cadet McCrap.
> 
> 
> Obviously the case for commercial launches.  But what about NASA
> launches to ISS ?  I assume NASA buys the Dragon spacecraft and owns it?

Wrong.  They're buying cargo delivery service.  That's kind of the whole 
point of "commercial cargo".  Paying for services instead of hardware 
that NASA middle management will want to micro-manage (at a very high 
cost).

> What about stage2 and stage1 ? Do they remain SpaceX property despite
> being lauched by NASA ?
>
> Or does KSC and Houston mission controls really just play an observer
> role in this and Hawthorne is the real driver seat ?

NASA does not launch *any* Falcons.  Mission control for Falcon is is 
Hawthorne California.  Watch the live stream of a launch sometime!
 
 
> (NASA TV seems to make it look like KSC and Houston play a major role
> with Hawthorne just "monitoring things".

Don't watch NASA TV.  Watch the SpaceX live-stream!

Jeff
-- 
All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone.  
These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, 
employer, or any organization that I am a member of.

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#56806

Frombob haller <hallerb@aol.com>
Date2016-06-25 06:10 -0700
Message-ID<a81d9017-629c-4198-af42-e78c33c7f72b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#56804
On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 8:58:01 AM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote:
> In article <576df025$0$25299$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>, 
> jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca says...
> > 
> > On 2016-06-23 18:58, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> > > SpaceX manufactures as needed for their own use. SpaceX is
> > > selling launch services, not space ships, Space Cadet McCrap.
> > 
> > 
> > Obviously the case for commercial launches.  But what about NASA
> > launches to ISS ?  I assume NASA buys the Dragon spacecraft and owns it?
> 
> Wrong.  They're buying cargo delivery service.  That's kind of the whole 
> point of "commercial cargo".  Paying for services instead of hardware 
> that NASA middle management will want to micro-manage (at a very high 
> cost).
> 
> > What about stage2 and stage1 ? Do they remain SpaceX property despite
> > being lauched by NASA ?
> >
> > Or does KSC and Houston mission controls really just play an observer
> > role in this and Hawthorne is the real driver seat ?
> 
> NASA does not launch *any* Falcons.  Mission control for Falcon is is 
> Hawthorne California.  Watch the live stream of a launch sometime!
>  
>  
> > (NASA TV seems to make it look like KSC and Houston play a major role
> > with Hawthorne just "monitoring things".
> 
> Don't watch NASA TV.  Watch the SpaceX live-stream!
> 
> Jeff
> -- 
> All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone.  
> These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, 
> employer, or any organization that I am a member of.

nasa for launching has become obsolete........

which is really good news, cuts costs

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#56810

FromJeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com>
Date2016-06-25 16:13 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31d8b00634892a9e989782@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#56806
In article <a81d9017-629c-4198-af42-e78c33c7f72b@googlegroups.com>, 
hallerb@aol.com says...
> 
> On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 8:58:01 AM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote:
> > In article <576df025$0$25299$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>, 
> > jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca says...
> > > What about stage2 and stage1 ? Do they remain SpaceX property 
> > > despite being lauched by NASA ?
> > >
> > > Or does KSC and Houston mission controls really just play an observer
> > > role in this and Hawthorne is the real driver seat ?
> > 
> > NASA does not launch *any* Falcons.  Mission control for Falcon is is 
> > Hawthorne California.  Watch the live stream of a launch sometime!
> >  
> >  
> > > (NASA TV seems to make it look like KSC and Houston play a major role
> > > with Hawthorne just "monitoring things".
> > 
> > Don't watch NASA TV.  Watch the SpaceX live-stream!
> > 
> 
> nasa for launching has become obsolete........
> 
> which is really good news, cuts costs

Tell that to your Congressman and Senator, because they likely have not 
gotten the message and are still supporting SLS.

Jeff
-- 
All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone.  
These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, 
employer, or any organization that I am a member of.

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