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The Bible Inc.

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  The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 15:51 -0400
    Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-17 18:12 -0400
      Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 22:15 -0500
        Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-19 05:28 -0400
          Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:07 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-19 21:30 +0100
              Re: The Bible Inc. phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 16:19 -0600
                Re: The Bible Inc. phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 18:45 -0600
                  Re: The Bible Inc. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:49 -0700
                  Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 12:40 +0100
                Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 02:14 +0100
                  Re: The Bible Inc. Tom Mix <tommix@mixmin.net> - 2026-06-22 09:57 +0000
                    Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-22 06:44 -0400
                      Re: The Bible Inc. "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2026-06-22 12:03 +0000
                    Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-22 20:52 +1000
                    Re: The Bible Inc. Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:28 -0700
                      Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-23 18:02 +1000
                Re: The Bible Inc. % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 19:50 -0700
                  Re: The Bible Inc. Skeeter <invalid@none.com> - 2026-06-19 20:58 -0600
              Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:26 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-20 12:44 +0100
                  Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 13:02 -0500
                    Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-21 18:52 +0000
                      Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 18:13 -0500
                    Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-22 01:42 +0100
                      Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-22 19:39 +1000
                      Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 12:50 -0500
                  Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:27 -0400
                    Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:12 -0400
                      Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 10:39 -0400
                        Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 14:29 -0400
                          Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 12:19 -0400
                            Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-26 18:10 -0400
                              Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 16:07 -0400
                                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-07-05 18:46 -0400
                        Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 16:28 -0500
                    Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-23 11:26 +0100
                      Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:07 -0500
            Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 00:57 -0400
              Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:20 -0400
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:17 -0400
                  Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 10:43 -0400
                    Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 14:33 -0400
                      Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 17:29 -0400
                        Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-26 18:17 -0400
                          Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 16:05 -0400
                            Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 17:10 -0500
                            Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-07-05 18:41 -0400
                        Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 11:58 -0500
        Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:03 -0400
          Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 06:49 -0500
            Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 09:09 -0400
              Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 17:50 -0500
                Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-21 14:01 +0000
            Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:29 -0400
              Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:22 -0500
      Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 14:01 -0400
        Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-20 01:00 -0400
          Re: The Bible Inc. JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 00:23 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 06:27 -0400
              Re: The Bible Inc. Axel <none@not.here> - 2026-06-23 23:52 +1000
                Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-23 18:47 -0400
                  Re: The Bible Inc. onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-06-24 00:36 +0100
                    Re: The Bible Inc. Attila <prochoice@here.now> - 2026-06-24 06:27 -0400
            Re: The Bible Inc. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 10:10 -0500
              Re: The Bible Inc. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2026-06-23 17:38 +0000

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#117584

Fromonion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on)
Date2026-06-20 12:44 +0100
Message-ID<1rx05xm.1ml939qomg4quN%onion@anon.invalid>
In reply to#117580
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> 
> > Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
> 
> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
> 
> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
> 
> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
> 
> Try again.

I note that you completely ducked my question.
I'll repeat it for your convenience:

Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.

I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island 
populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.

My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that 
your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?

Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.

-- 
  \|/  
(((Ï)))    -    Mr Ön!on, NPC 
 
When we shake the ketchup bottle 
At first none comes and then a lot'll.

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#117589

FromDawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-21 13:02 -0500
Message-ID<1119908$vjkj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117584
On 6/20/2026 6:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>
>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>
>> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
>>
>> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
>>
>> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
>> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
>> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
>>
>> Try again.
> 
> I note that you completely ducked my question.
> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
> 
> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
> 
> I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
> populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
> 
> My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?
> 
> Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.
> 

Grass skirts are itchy, as are some wool ones.  I have found the 
polyester-cotton blended ones to be the best; they look good and are 
easy to maintain.

Dawn

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#117590

Fromjojo <f00@0f0.00f>
Date2026-06-21 18:52 +0000
Message-ID<169371e9-ffd9-636b-c9f3-9c799b627a67@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>
In reply to#117589
Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 6/20/2026 6:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>>
>>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>>
>>> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
>>>
>>> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
>>>
>>> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
>>> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
>>> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
>>>
>>> Try again.
>>
>> I note that you completely ducked my question.
>> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>>
>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>>
>> I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
>> populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
>>
>> My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
>> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?
>>
>> Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.
>>
> 
> Grass skirts are itchy, as are some wool ones.  I have found the 
> polyester-cotton blended ones to be the best; they look good and 
> are easy to maintain.
> 
> Dawn


when did you wear grass skirts?

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#117591

FromDawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-21 18:13 -0500
Message-ID<1119r7h$14otv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117590
On 6/21/2026 1:52 PM, jojo wrote:
> Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 6/20/2026 6:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>>>
>>>> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
>>>>
>>>> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
>>>>
>>>> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
>>>> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
>>>> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
>>>>
>>>> Try again.
>>>
>>> I note that you completely ducked my question.
>>> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>>>
>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>>>
>>> I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
>>> populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
>>>
>>> My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
>>> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?
>>>
>>> Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.
>>>
>>
>> Grass skirts are itchy, as are some wool ones.  I have found the 
>> polyester-cotton blended ones to be the best; they look good and are 
>> easy to maintain.
>>
>> Dawn
> 
> 
> when did you wear grass skirts?
> 

LOL!  It was a Halloween costume!

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#117592

Fromonion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on)
Date2026-06-22 01:42 +0100
Message-ID<1rx3047.hp1aex1jrz7miN%onion@anon.invalid>
In reply to#117589
Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/20/2026 6:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> > JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> >>
> >>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
> >>
> >> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
> >>
> >> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
> >>
> >> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
> >> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
> >> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
> >>
> >> Try again.
> > 
> > I note that you completely ducked my question.
> > I'll repeat it for your convenience:
> > 
> > Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
> > Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
> > 
> > I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
> > populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
> > 
> > My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
> > your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?
> > 
> > Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.
> > 
> 
> Grass skirts are itchy, as are some wool ones.  I have found the 
> polyester-cotton blended ones to be the best; they look good and are 
> easy to maintain.
> 
> Dawn
>

If thine skirt causeth thee to itch, take it off!  For it is better to
enter the Island of Dancing Wahines skirtless than it is to be cast
forever into the Torment of Scratchy Underwear, Hives and Prickly Heat.

Better by far, yea, even unto a Country Mile (and it's much more fun).

I note that the Man of Faith is woefully silent on these doctrines. 

-- 
  \|/  
(((Ï)))    -    Mr Ön!on, NPC 
 
When we shake the ketchup bottle 
At first none comes and then a lot'll.

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#117593

FromAxel <none@not.here>
Date2026-06-22 19:39 +1000
Message-ID<n9se60FpfpkU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#117592
Mr Ön!on wrote:
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/20/2026 6:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>>> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
>>>>
>>>> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
>>>>
>>>> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
>>>> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
>>>> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
>>>>
>>>> Try again.
>>> I note that you completely ducked my question.
>>> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>>>
>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>>>
>>> I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
>>> populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
>>>
>>> My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
>>> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?
>>>
>>> Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.
>>>
>> Grass skirts are itchy, as are some wool ones.  I have found the
>> polyester-cotton blended ones to be the best; they look good and are
>> easy to maintain.
>>
>> Dawn
>>
> If thine skirt causeth thee to itch, take it off!  For it is better to
> enter the Island of Dancing Wahines skirtless than it is to be cast
> forever into the Torment of Scratchy Underwear, Hives and Prickly Heat.
>
> Better by far, yea, even unto a Country Mile (and it's much more fun).
>
> I note that the Man of Faith is woefully silent on these doctrines.
>

why do ppl talk about the bible being 'true', or not? the bible is a 
collection of ancient writings. it contains poetry, Jewish texts, 
religious teaching, history, prophecy, philosophy, fables, letters to 
Churches, and more. so it makes no sense to talk about the bible as a 
whole being 'true'. only some of what it contains could be considered 
factual (true).

-- 
Linux Mint 22.3

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#117598

FromDawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 12:50 -0500
Message-ID<111bslp$1n1lt$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117592
On 6/21/2026 7:42 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/20/2026 6:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/19/26 4:30 PM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>>>
>>>> Okay so you're a retard so I have to point this out:
>>>>
>>>> THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!
>>>>
>>>> This is why when I challenged you to identify what exactly
>>>> you think you're counting, what position you are gaslighting
>>>> yourself into thinking you addressed, you couldn't do that.
>>>>
>>>> Try again.
>>>
>>> I note that you completely ducked my question.
>>> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>>>
>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>>>
>>> I believe that when I die I will be sent to a south sea island
>>> populated by beautiful dancing wahines in grass skirts.
>>>
>>> My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
>>> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?
>>>
>>> Try for the first time, Man of Blind Faith.
>>>
>>
>> Grass skirts are itchy, as are some wool ones.  I have found the
>> polyester-cotton blended ones to be the best; they look good and are
>> easy to maintain.
>>
>> Dawn
>>
> 
> If thine skirt causeth thee to itch, take it off!  For it is better to
> enter the Island of Dancing Wahines skirtless than it is to be cast
> forever into the Torment of Scratchy Underwear, Hives and Prickly Heat.
> 
> Better by far, yea, even unto a Country Mile (and it's much more fun).
> 
> I note that the Man of Faith is woefully silent on these doctrines.
> 

As long as there is sex, I don't care where I end up!!

Dawn

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#117602

FromJTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 00:27 -0400
Message-ID<111d1va$202uu$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117584
On 6/20/26 7:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>
> I note that you completely ducked my question.
> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
> 
> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.

So you're retarded AND a sock puppet!

Again:  What do you imagine yourself to be reacting to?

> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.

And this refutes... what? You're saying that your idiotic
rambling has called the bible to cease to exist? Has caused all
so called "Christians" to denounce Christianity? Or, are you
pretending that no so called "Christian" has ever claimed
biblical support for denouncing homosexuality as a sin?

Because you're not addressing any of those, but you are FucTarded.



-- 
https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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#117605

FromAttila <prochoice@here.now>
Date2026-06-23 06:12 -0400
Message-ID<3tmk3lpl3od9eg6qc9bujtdftdk8sgcse2@4ax.com>
In reply to#117602
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 00:27:22 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<111d1va$202uu$3@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 6/20/26 7:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>
>> I note that you completely ducked my question.
>> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>> 
>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>
>So you're retarded AND a sock puppet!
>
>Again:  What do you imagine yourself to be reacting to?
>
>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>
>And this refutes... what? You're saying that your idiotic
>rambling has called the bible to cease to exist? Has caused all
>so called "Christians" to denounce Christianity? Or, are you
>pretending that no so called "Christian" has ever claimed
>biblical support for denouncing homosexuality as a sin?
>
>Because you're not addressing any of those, but you are FucTarded.

I see you are doing everything but addressing the lack of
supporting evidence.

Why am I not surprised?

-- 


Every person in the US is here either  
legally or illegally. Those that are 
here illegally should be afraid.  
Be very afraid.  It does not matter 
how long you have been here.  It does 
not matter why you are here. It does not 
matter what you have done legally while you 
were here. It does not matter what any 
relative may have done while you were here. 
It only matters that you are here illegally. 
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer 
but we will find you and we will deport you. 
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally?  If so, where is 
the documentation to establish that?


All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like 
the truth.  They start with the biggest 
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression, 
display or support of religion or 
religious positions.

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#117617

FromJTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-24 10:39 -0400
Message-ID<111gq7k$333lj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117605
On 6/23/26 6:12 AM, Attila wrote:

> I see you are doing everything but addressing the lack of
> supporting evidence.

Evidence for... what?

Your mental retardation?

DONE!

Evidence for the existence of the bible?

DONE!

Evidence for Romans 1 attributing homosexuality to
God, naming God as the source?

DONE!

The fact that many Christians claim a religious
foundation in denouncing homosexuality?

DONE!

The fact that Christianity considers it a sin to
misrepresent the bible?

DONE!

So what does that malformed, intellectually crippled,
emotionally damaged "Brain" of yours "Think" <sic>
is lacking "Supporting evidence?"




> 
> Why am I not surprised?
> 


-- 
https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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#117619

FromAttila <prochoice@here.now>
Date2026-06-24 14:29 -0400
Message-ID<048o3l9ljbtpni9cnticfm1ancj9ktpmqr@4ax.com>
In reply to#117617
On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 10:39:47 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<111gq7k$333lj$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 6/23/26 6:12 AM, Attila wrote:
>
>> I see you are doing everything but addressing the lack of
>> supporting evidence.
>
>Evidence for... what?

Anything you say.

>
>Your mental retardation?
>
>DONE!
>
>Evidence for the existence of the bible?
>
>DONE!

Where?

>
>Evidence for Romans 1 attributing homosexuality to
>God, naming God as the source?
>
>DONE!

How do you know it isn't a lie?

>
>The fact that many Christians claim a religious
>foundation in denouncing homosexuality?
>
>DONE!

Proving nothing.  A religious claim is useless.

>
>The fact that Christianity considers it a sin to
>misrepresent the bible?
>
>DONE!

So what?  That doesn't validate anything except what some
document says.

>
>So what does that malformed, intellectually crippled,
>emotionally damaged "Brain" of yours "Think" <sic>
>is lacking "Supporting evidence?"

Everything you say.

>> 
>> Why am I not surprised?
>> 

-- 


Every person in the US is here either  
legally or illegally. Those that are 
here illegally should be afraid.  
Be very afraid.  It does not matter 
how long you have been here.  It does 
not matter why you are here. It does not 
matter what you have done legally while you 
were here. It does not matter what any 
relative may have done while you were here. 
It only matters that you are here illegally. 
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer 
but we will find you and we will deport you. 
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally?  If so, where is 
the documentation to establish that?


All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like 
the truth.  They start with the biggest 
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression, 
display or support of religion or 
religious positions.

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#117622

FromJTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-26 12:19 -0400
Message-ID<111m8q6$l7bo$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117619
On 6/24/26 2:29 PM, Attila wrote:

>> Evidence for... what?
> 
> Anything you say.

I said there was a King James bible.

I said that there was a Romans 1 in the King James
bible.

I said that many Christians claim religious grounds
for denouncing homosexuality.

I pointed out the fact that in the King James bible,
in Romans 1 the homosexuality is coming from God. That,
God made the people homosexuals. So if their being
homosexuals is a sin then God is a sinner.

Oh. And I also said that God can't be a sinner. That,
calling God a sinner is blasphemy.

And I've pointed this out numerous times while you
refuse to "Get it" and instead chose to continue to
say wildly inappropriate, retarded things.

Like right now.



-- 
https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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#117626

FromAttila <prochoice@here.now>
Date2026-06-26 18:10 -0400
Message-ID<uvtt3ltfh1e7ob1fch5kb1e2lm5lq1qr2p@4ax.com>
In reply to#117622
On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:19:18 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<111m8q6$l7bo$3@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 6/24/26 2:29 PM, Attila wrote:
>
>>> Evidence for... what?
>> 
>> Anything you say.
>
>I said there was a King James bible.
>
>I said that there was a Romans 1 in the King James
>bible.
>
>I said that many Christians claim religious grounds
>for denouncing homosexuality.
>
>I pointed out the fact that in the King James bible,
>in Romans 1 the homosexuality is coming from God. That,
>God made the people homosexuals. So if their being
>homosexuals is a sin then God is a sinner.

Ok so far - you are simply quoting a book.

>
>Oh. And I also said that God can't be a sinner. That,
>calling God a sinner is blasphemy.

Now you are getting into the arena of assertion.  Or are you
just continuing your quotations?

>
>And I've pointed this out numerous times while you
>refuse to "Get it" and instead chose to continue to
>say wildly inappropriate, retarded things.
>
>Like right now.

You leave the impression you are asserting things that  are
factual.  Is that the case? 

-- 


Every person in the US is here either  
legally or illegally. Those that are 
here illegally should be afraid.  
Be very afraid.  It does not matter 
how long you have been here.  It does 
not matter why you are here. It does not 
matter what you have done legally while you 
were here. It does not matter what any 
relative may have done while you were here. 
It only matters that you are here illegally. 
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer 
but we will find you and we will deport you. 
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally?  If so, where is 
the documentation to establish that?


All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like 
the truth.  They start with the biggest 
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression, 
display or support of religion or 
religious positions.

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#117650

FromJTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-05 16:07 -0400
Message-ID<112edho$1ciiu$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117626
On 6/26/26 6:10 PM, Attila wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:19:18 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>

>> I pointed out the fact that in the King James bible,
>> in Romans 1 the homosexuality is coming from God. That,
>> God made the people homosexuals. So if their being
>> homosexuals is a sin then God is a sinner.
> 
> Ok so far - you are simply quoting a book.

No, you clear victim to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. The quote
defeats a position, a view -- the very often stated
beliefs of conservative Christians.

And you genuinely are this stupid, even if you pretend
that you always make these mistakes on purpose.



-- 
https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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#117654

FromAttila <prochoice@here.now>
Date2026-07-05 18:46 -0400
Message-ID<7gnl4lhno9asuek5pds7l67m3p8r77s832@4ax.com>
In reply to#117650
On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 16:07:20 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<112edho$1ciiu$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 6/26/26 6:10 PM, Attila wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:19:18 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
>
>>> I pointed out the fact that in the King James bible,
>>> in Romans 1 the homosexuality is coming from God. That,
>>> God made the people homosexuals. So if their being
>>> homosexuals is a sin then God is a sinner.
>> 
>> Ok so far - you are simply quoting a book.
>
>No, you clear victim to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. The quote
>defeats a position, a view -- the very often stated
>beliefs of conservative Christians.
>
>And you genuinely are this stupid, even if you pretend
>that you always make these mistakes on purpose.

I assume the quote is what the book actually said.  That has
absolutely nothing to do with whether what it says contains
any truth or is nothing more than a bunch of lies.

-- 


Every person in the US is here either  
legally or illegally. Those that are 
here illegally should be afraid.  
Be very afraid.  It does not matter 
how long you have been here.  It does 
not matter why you are here. It does not 
matter what you have done legally while you 
were here. It does not matter what any 
relative may have done while you were here. 
It only matters that you are here illegally. 
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer 
but we will find you and we will deport you. 
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally?  If so, where is 
the documentation to establish that?

I support ending birthright citizenship

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like 
the truth.  They start with the biggest 
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression, 
display or support of religion or 
religious positions.

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#117621

FromDawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-24 16:28 -0500
Message-ID<111hi5b$3b177$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117617
On 6/24/2026 9:39 AM, JTEM wrote:
> On 6/23/26 6:12 AM, Attila wrote:
> 
>> I see you are doing everything but addressing the lack of
>> supporting evidence.
> 
> Evidence for... what?
> 
> Your mental retardation?
> 
> DONE!
> 
> Evidence for the existence of the bible?
> 
> DONE!
> 
> Evidence for Romans 1 attributing homosexuality to
> God, naming God as the source?
> 
> DONE!
> 
> The fact that many Christians claim a religious
> foundation in denouncing homosexuality?
> 
> DONE!
> 
> The fact that Christianity considers it a sin to
> misrepresent the bible?
> 
> DONE!
> 
> So what does that malformed, intellectually crippled,
> emotionally damaged "Brain" of yours "Think" <sic>
> is lacking "Supporting evidence?"
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Why am I not surprised?
>>
> 
> 

Can you name a single Christian theologian from the last 2,000 years in 
support of your POV?  (Oh, wait, there are none.)

Dawn

P.S.  What is the point behind all of your dribble??  (Oh, wait, there 
is none.)

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#117607

Fromonion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on)
Date2026-06-23 11:26 +0100
Message-ID<1rx5lk0.q0yd071kbss4lN%onion@anon.invalid>
In reply to#117602
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/20/26 7:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> >
> > I note that you completely ducked my question.
> > I'll repeat it for your convenience:
> > 
> > Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
> 
> So you're retarded AND a sock puppet!
> 
> Again:  What do you imagine yourself to be reacting to?
> 
> > Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
> 
> And this refutes... what? You're saying that your idiotic
> rambling has called the bible to cease to exist? Has caused all
> so called "Christians" to denounce Christianity? Or, are you
> pretending that no so called "Christian" has ever claimed
> biblical support for denouncing homosexuality as a sin?
> 
> Because you're not addressing any of those, but you are FucTarded.
>

I note that you have again failed to answer my question 
(which you have silently edited out):-

"My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that 
your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?"
 
- ducking it by instead asking a question of your own in return.
"Can't answer, won't answer" is disappointing but not surprising.

-- 
  \|/  
(((Ï)))    -    Mr Ön!on, NPC 
 
When we shake the ketchup bottle 
At first none comes and then a lot'll.

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#117610

FromDawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 10:07 -0500
Message-ID<111e7fs$2bfeg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117607
On 6/23/2026 5:26 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
> JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/20/26 7:44 AM, Mr Ön!on wrote:
>>>
>>> I note that you completely ducked my question.
>>> I'll repeat it for your convenience:
>>>
>>> Without verification there is no proof that the bible is true.
>>
>> So you're retarded AND a sock puppet!
>>
>> Again:  What do you imagine yourself to be reacting to?
>>
>>> Without proof, belief in the bible is no more than blind faith.
>>
>> And this refutes... what? You're saying that your idiotic
>> rambling has called the bible to cease to exist? Has caused all
>> so called "Christians" to denounce Christianity? Or, are you
>> pretending that no so called "Christian" has ever claimed
>> biblical support for denouncing homosexuality as a sin?
>>
>> Because you're not addressing any of those, but you are FucTarded.
>>
> 
> I note that you have again failed to answer my question
> (which you have silently edited out):-
> 
> "My faith in that belief is every bit as valid as your faith that
> your bible is true.  Do you agree?  If not, why not?"
>   
> - ducking it by instead asking a question of your own in return.
> "Can't answer, won't answer" is disappointing but not surprising.
> 

JTEM is our board's resident name-calling abuser.

Dawn

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#117581

FromAttila <prochoice@here.now>
Date2026-06-20 00:57 -0400
Message-ID<lu6c3lh8fp1oa5ukr3agq43vilvfvrvn0r@4ax.com>
In reply to#117571
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:07:03 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
in alt.atheism with message-id
<11140g7$3gjv2$4@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 6/19/26 5:28 AM, Attila wrote:
>
>> If any.
>
>If any...what?

"How much or how little is pretty much anyone's guess!"

This was trimmed in your reply.

>
>What is your position, as if you have one.

Anything that is asserted as factual requires unambiguous,
unrelated, verifiable and credible supporting evidence.

>
>What are you claiming is NOT true because, as you
>argue, the bible is not verified?

I am not fool enough to claim a negative without evidence.
At the same time I am not fool enough to accept an assertion
without that same evidence.

>
>Be specific. The thread is specific, there is a
>context, even if your disorder(s) prevent you
>from recognizing it.
>
>What SPECIFICALLY are you arguing AGAINST (or for),
>using your meaningless claim that the bible is not
>verified?

It is not meaningless.  Aside  from a few geographical
locations and historical figures where can the required
unambiguous, unrelated, verifiable and credible evidence be
found?

>
>"THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT, even though it does,
>BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERIFIED so..."
>
>Go on.

It is easy to state what the bible (or any other source)
states since anyone can read it for themselves.  However
that does nothing to establish the validity of any claim or
assertion made.

If simply stating something makes it valid every work of
fiction ever written must be accepted as being true.

-- 


Every person in the US is here either  
legally or illegally. Those that are 
here illegally should be afraid.  
Be very afraid.  It does not matter 
how long you have been here.  It does 
not matter why you are here. It does not 
matter what you have done legally while you 
were here. It does not matter what any 
relative may have done while you were here. 
It only matters that you are here illegally. 
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer 
but we will find you and we will deport you. 
Be prepared.

Deport them all.

Due process:
Q. Are you here legally?  If so, where is 
the documentation to establish that?


All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like 
the truth.  They start with the biggest 
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting 
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

I support:

A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.

The elimination of public expression, 
display or support of religion or 
religious positions.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#117600

FromJTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 00:20 -0400
Message-ID<111d1ie$202uu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#117581
On 6/20/26 12:57 AM, Attila wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:07:03 -0400, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>

>> What is your position, as if you have one.
> 
> Anything that is asserted as factual requires unambiguous,
> unrelated, verifiable and credible supporting evidence.

Are you admitting to being a retard? Because this isn't a
hypothetical here. Someone claiming to be a Christian was
shown that BY THEIR OWN BIBLE homosexuality is not a sin
but idolatry -- such as worshiping the bible -- is. AND,
it was also pointed out that Christianity believes that
misrepresenting the bible is a sin, and this particular
Christian was misrepresenting the bible, pretending that
it doesn't say what it says.

You?  You're a worthless retard who couldn't even grasp
that there were no hypotheticals involved...

>> What are you claiming is NOT true because, as you
>> argue, the bible is not verified?
> 
> I am not fool enough to claim a negative without evidence.

You're a fucking retard. You read what you were reacting
to, never understood any of it and you're doubling down
on your idiocy of posting some random, disarticulated
refutation to a non-existing hypothetical that you imagine
seeing.



-- 
https://jtem.tumblr.com/

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