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| First post | 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-10-18 11:15 -0400 |
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A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-10-10 21:29 -0400
A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-10-10 18:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 14:57 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2016-10-11 19:05 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:37 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2016-10-11 22:56 +0300
the static eventuality noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 09:55 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 10:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 18:56 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 12:44 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-11 21:46 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 19:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 12:59 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-11 19:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 19:19 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-11 20:51 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:42 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:03 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:40 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:20 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:26 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:13 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 13:36 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 11:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 12:40 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:53 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:36 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:54 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:49 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:10 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:07 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:39 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-16 22:13 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-16 19:27 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:46 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 08:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-18 17:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 21:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 08:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:10 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:48 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:03 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:14 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-15 17:52 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:10 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:44 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-16 09:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 18:29 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 17:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 20:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 05:19 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:51 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 14:03 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:01 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 20:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 05:28 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:45 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-18 08:48 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 10:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 07:15 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 09:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-19 16:29 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2016-10-19 19:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-19 19:27 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:08 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 12:15 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:37 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 05:23 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 08:17 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:52 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:07 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:16 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:05 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:43 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-13 01:22 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 19:20 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 11:27 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:47 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 20:48 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 01:21 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-10-12 19:18 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 16:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 13:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-13 06:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:01 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:14 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 18:07 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:35 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:50 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-16 23:54 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 18:21 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 07:12 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 06:50 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-17 17:00 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-17 23:47 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 07:31 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-18 12:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-10-17 13:40 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:24 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:58 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-12 02:36 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-11 21:01 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:56 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:12 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:49 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:06 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 19:45 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:08 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 11:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 10:42 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-12 00:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 08:59 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 07:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 14:14 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 17:52 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:13 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-12 20:02 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 21:18 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-13 08:05 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 00:06 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-13 21:26 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 02:51 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-10-14 06:01 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 07:25 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 07:29 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:20 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:30 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 13:48 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 14:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-14 18:57 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:08 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 02:57 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:16 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:11 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 14:53 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-10-14 21:04 +0000
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:02 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 10:18 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 21:23 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-16 15:00 -0500
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:45 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 03:17 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 07:32 -0400
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-14 10:21 -0400
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:09 -0700
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-15 16:17 -0400
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:39 -0700
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-10-15 21:09 -0400
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-10-15 23:04 -0500
Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 22:47 -0700
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Re: A smaller, faster version of the SpaceX Interplanetary Transport System to Mars. Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 16:34 -0700
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-13 07:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cg7vvbps4p6dj56t5psvb643iq68cuukv7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600657 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> >From a plant life point of view, it si doubtful you could get plants to
>>>>> grow "outdoors". And if your plants are indoors, the CO2 they will get
>>>>> will come from humans, not outside air (since the indoor habitat will do
>>>>> everyuthing to keep that nasty CO2 out).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. CO2 from humans will go into scrubbers.
>>>
>>> wrong, no way to clean scrubbers on Mars.
>>>
>>
>> Wrong. Of course there is. Just take them outside, heat them, and
>> take them back inside before they cool.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be extremnely challenging to develop sustainable human presence
>>>>> on Mars of the type seen in Total Recall or even Babylon 5.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For some moderate value of 'extremely'.
>>>
>>> it is still too costly, and there is no payoff, just rocks and sand in a
>>> vaccum
>>>
>>
>> We already established that your "rocks and sand in a vacuum" is
>> false.
>>
>
>rong, it is not a true or false game.
>
Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't.
>
>Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum.
>
Not the definition of 'vacuum'. By your definition Creed, Colorado,
is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space
than it is to sea level.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with Mars is that initial settlers will be dependent on
>>>>> Earth for ALL their supplies for a long time, and it will be even longer
>>>>> time before they start to have ability to manufacture goods locally from
>>>>> locally mined iron/aluminium/coal etc.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. There will be some things that will be locally produced in fairly
>>>> short order.
>>>>
>>>
>>> name any of them.
>>>
>>
>> Water, oxygen,
>>
>
>they brought that with them, and the tech to produce it.
>
Well, of course they brought tools, you ignorant dipshit. They're not
going to bring it all from Earth.
>
>> various other gases,
>
>like Nitrogen... which they also brought with them.
>
But not all of it.
>
>> including methane for rocket fuel.
>
>they do not need rocket fuel, because they do not need to go back to Earth.
>
But the ships do.
>
>> As a colony gets bigger it will start to pay to locally produce
>> metals.
>
>from melting down old supply rocketships,
>it is more cost effective to leave them there as scrap.
>
Wrong. I see why you think colonization can't work. You think they'll
do it in the stupidest way possible.
>
>>
>> Try and keep up.
>>
>>>
>>>> There will be some things that will probably have to be
>>>> imported for a very long time. There will have to be some new
>>>> industrial processes, since there will be no coal.
>>>
>>> no need, no reason to go to mars.
>>>
>>
>> If humanity listened to trolls like you we'd still be huddled in caves
>> eating bushes.
>>
>
>you missed out on the moon exploration, and you have failed to keep up
>with NASA R&D on what is required for Mars.
>
Jesus, but you're stupid.
>
>You keep stating the silly stuff. Like a stoner going to drift up and
>live the big life on Mars like in the movies.
>
>Get Real.
>or go post in sci.fiction.for.dummies
>
You're crossposting to a sci.space newsgroup, you ignorant twat. Go
educate yourself. Ad hominem trolling bullshit doesn't cut it.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, is there any information on whether mining for minerals can be
>>>>> done on mars ? Would there be veins of iron, bauxite, gold or some coal
>>>>> wrth digging for ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sufficient amounts of various metals for initial development are
>>>> available without having to do much in the way of mining. Ores can
>>>> just be scraped up off the surface.
>>>>
>>>
>>> so you have been there ? or are you just makeing stuff up ?
>>>
>>
>
><snip crap>
>
Sure you aren't trying to make methane out of it?
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 13:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntojp7$1s6s$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600710 |
On 10/13/2016 9:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> >> >> rong, it is not a true or false game. >> > > Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't. wrong, pupa go google Torr > >> >> Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum. >> > > Not the definition of 'vacuum'. By your definition Creed, Colorado, > is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space > than it is to sea level. liar > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >>>> name any of them. >>>> >>> >>> Water, oxygen, >>> >> >> they brought that with them, and the tech to produce it. >> > > Well, of course they brought tools, you ignorant dipshit. They're not > going to bring it all from Earth. they can't make it on Mars, shit for brains. > >> >>> various other gases, >> >> like Nitrogen... which they also brought with them. >> > > But not all of it. yes all of it. > >> >>> including methane for rocket fuel. >> they do not need rocket fuel, because they do not need to go back to Earth. >> > > But the ships do. no they dont. > >> >>> As a colony gets bigger it will start to pay to locally produce >>> metals. >> >>from melting down old supply rocketships, >> it is more cost effective to leave them there as scrap. > > Wrong. I see why you think colonization can't work. You think they'll > do it in the stupidest way possible. guessing again I see, and totally wrong again > >> >>> >>> Try and keep up. >>> >>>> >>>>> There will be some things that will probably have to be >>>>> imported for a very long time. There will have to be some new >>>>> industrial processes, since there will be no coal. >>>> >>>> no need, no reason to go to mars. >>>> >>> If humanity listened to trolls like you we'd still be huddled in caves >>> eating bushes. >>> >> >> you missed out on the moon exploration, and you have failed to keep up >> with NASA R&D on what is required for Mars. >> > > Jesus, but you're stupid. Jesus ain't going to help you. > >> >> You keep stating the silly stuff. Like a stoner going to drift up and >> live the big life on Mars like in the movies. >> Get Real. >> or go post in sci.fiction.for.dummies >> > > You're crossposting to a sci.space newsgroup, you ignorant twat. Go > educate yourself. Ad hominem trolling bullshit doesn't cut it. ditto spaced-clod > >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In fact, is there any information on whether mining for minerals can be >>>>>> done on mars ? Would there be veins of iron, bauxite, gold or some coal >>>>>> wrth digging for ? >>>>>> >>>>> Sufficient amounts of various metals for initial development are >>>>> available without having to do much in the way of mining. Ores can >>>>> just be scraped up off the surface. >>>>> >>>> >>>> so you have been there ? or are you just makeing stuff up ? >>>> >>> >> >> <snip crap> >> > > Sure you aren't trying to make methane out of it? > go make your own methane.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 10:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <v9620c9hg3pc92i2mel00mlh9qitnemm47@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600743 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/13/2016 9:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>
>>> rong, it is not a true or false game.
>>>
>>
>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't.
>
>wrong, pupa go google Torr
>
Wrong, dipshit go get educated.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum.
>>>
>>
>> Not the definition of 'vacuum'. By your definition Creed, Colorado,
>> is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space
>> than it is to sea level.
>
>liar
>
Look it up, you ignorant dipshit.
>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> name any of them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Water, oxygen,
>>>>
>>>
>>> they brought that with them, and the tech to produce it.
>>>
>>
>> Well, of course they brought tools, you ignorant dipshit. They're not
>> going to bring it all from Earth.
>
>they can't make it on Mars, shit for brains.
>
Of course they can. It's not even that hard. Just because YOU can't
do it doesn't mean others can't. Hell, if that was the case we'd all
be sitting in our mother's basements and drooling.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> various other gases,
>>>
>>> like Nitrogen... which they also brought with them.
>>>
>>
>> But not all of it.
>
>yes all of it.
>
Why, when it's so easy to produce in situ?
>
>>
>>>
>>>> including methane for rocket fuel.
>
>>> they do not need rocket fuel, because they do not need to go back to Earth.
>>>
>>
>> But the ships do.
>
>no they dont.
>
Of course they do. They can't fly on pixie dust, you know.
>
>>
>>>
>>>> As a colony gets bigger it will start to pay to locally produce
>>>> metals.
>>>
>>>from melting down old supply rocketships,
>>> it is more cost effective to leave them there as scrap.
>
>>
>> Wrong. I see why you think colonization can't work. You think they'll
>> do it in the stupidest way possible.
>>
>
>guessing again I see, and totally wrong again
>
No guess at all. I just look at what you suggest; stupidest way
possible.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try and keep up.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There will be some things that will probably have to be
>>>>>> imported for a very long time. There will have to be some new
>>>>>> industrial processes, since there will be no coal.
>>>>>
>>>>> no need, no reason to go to mars.
>>>>>
>
>>>> If humanity listened to trolls like you we'd still be huddled in caves
>>>> eating bushes.
>>>>
>>>
>>> you missed out on the moon exploration, and you have failed to keep up
>>> with NASA R&D on what is required for Mars.
>>>
>>
>> Jesus, but you're stupid.
>
>Jesus ain't going to help you.
>
Well, you're evidence that he can't fix stupid.
>
>>
>>>
>>> You keep stating the silly stuff. Like a stoner going to drift up and
>>> live the big life on Mars like in the movies.
>
>>> Get Real.
>>> or go post in sci.fiction.for.dummies
>>>
>>
>> You're crossposting to a sci.space newsgroup, you ignorant twat. Go
>> educate yourself. Ad hominem trolling bullshit doesn't cut it.
>
>ditto spaced-clod
>
tritto shit-clod
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, is there any information on whether mining for minerals can be
>>>>>>> done on mars ? Would there be veins of iron, bauxite, gold or some coal
>>>>>>> wrth digging for ?
>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>> Sufficient amounts of various metals for initial development are
>>>>>> available without having to do much in the way of mining. Ores can
>>>>>> just be scraped up off the surface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> so you have been there ? or are you just makeing stuff up ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip crap>
>>>
>>
>> Sure you aren't trying to make methane out of it?
>>
>
>go make your own methane.
>
go eat your own raw material, troll.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-14 13:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntr7g4$1rrq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600860 |
On 10/14/2016 12:50 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/13/2016 9:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> >>>>> >>>> >>>> rong, it is not a true or false game. >>>> >>> >>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't. >> >> wrong, pupa go google Torr >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr Torr is a measure of vacuum. I can't educate you, pupa, your head cavity measures 0.00001 milli Torr, a near vacuum. only a few billion atoms left. you are here just to argue, just because your momma bitch-slapped you around when you were a kid, and she was damn right to do it, I'm gonna call her and tell on you.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 02:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c5u30ctkf9d02g10n4tnesftskpo7q8pod@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600870 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/14/2016 12:50 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/13/2016 9:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/12/2016 2:46 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> rong, it is not a true or false game.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't.
>>>
>>> wrong, pupa go google Torr
>>>
>>
I find it amusing that you removed my reply to you. Intellectually
dishonest much?
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr
>
>Torr is a measure of vacuum.
>
No. The torr is a unit of PRESSURE.
<snip idiocy>
Go back under your bridge, dipshit.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 10:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600968 |
On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>> >>>>>> rong, it is not a true or false game. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't. >>>> >>>> wrong, pupa go google Torr >>>> >>> > >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr >> >> Torr is a measure of vacuum. >> > > No. The torr is a unit of PRESSURE. WRONG, it is a measure of quality of vacuum, troll. I dont have time to educate you, besides you need to be cured of your meanness first, and you are too old, you do not have the capacity to learn new things anymore.
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| From | "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 21:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <huednY0uddOpTp_FnZ2dnUU7-N_NnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #600998 |
"Serigo" wrote in message news:ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org... > >On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rong, it is not a true or false game. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't. >>>>> >>>>> wrong, pupa go google Torr >>>>> >>>> > >> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr >>> >>> Torr is a measure of vacuum. >>> >> >> No. The torr is a unit of PRESSURE. > > >WRONG, it is a measure of quality of vacuum, troll. I dont have time to >educate you, besides you need to be cured of your meanness first, and you >are too old, you do not have the capacity to learn new things anymore. You know, you might do better if you actually read your own cite. You look pretty silly otherwise. From your own cite, the very first sentence: The torr (symbol: Torr) is a unit of pressure based on an absolute scale, -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 23:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntuu94$p9k$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601038 |
On 10/15/2016 8:09 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: > "Serigo" wrote in message news:ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org... >> >> On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>> >> >> WRONG, it is a measure of quality of vacuum, troll. I dont have time >> to educate you, besides you need to be cured of your meanness first, >> and you are too old, you do not have the capacity to learn new things >> anymore. > > You know, you might do better if you actually read your own cite. You > look pretty silly otherwise. > From your own cite, the very first sentence: The torr (symbol: Torr) is > a unit of pressure based on an absolute scale, > > I really don't care what you bozos say. You are obviously not in the business, I don't have time to educate you, but you can to it on your own. Vacuum chambers use Torr to measure the quality of their vacuum, Industrial vacuum chambers cover a vacuum range from atmosphere to 10^-3 Torr, high vacuum from 10^-3 to 10^-8. The pressure in outer space is roughly 10^-12 Torr. try building your own vacuum chamber, and coat mirrors.... can you do that ?
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 22:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2q460clbd542rb3gjjj3kt6m1gini3jl90@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #601058 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/15/2016 8:09 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
>> "Serigo" wrote in message news:ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> WRONG, it is a measure of quality of vacuum, troll. I dont have time
>>> to educate you, besides you need to be cured of your meanness first,
>>> and you are too old, you do not have the capacity to learn new things
>>> anymore.
>>
>> You know, you might do better if you actually read your own cite. You
>> look pretty silly otherwise.
>> From your own cite, the very first sentence: The torr (symbol: Torr) is
>> a unit of pressure based on an absolute scale,
>>
>
>I really don't care what you bozos say. You are obviously not in the
>business, I don't have time to educate you, but you can to it on your own.
>
Or what your cites say. Or what the facts say. Or what reality says.
Poor troll.
>
>Vacuum chambers use Torr to measure the quality of their vacuum,
>
No, they use it to measure the PRESSURE.
>
>Industrial vacuum chambers cover a vacuum range from atmosphere to 10^-3
>Torr,
>
So Mars pressure is 5000 times even a poor grade 'vacuum', since it's
around 5 torr.
>
>high vacuum from 10^-3 to 10^-8. The pressure in outer space is
>roughly 10^-12 Torr.
>
Yes, the PRESSURE in outer space. Torr measures pressure.
So Earth sea level 'vacuum' is 760 torr? Torr measures vacuum, not
pressure, right?
>
>try building your own vacuum chamber, and coat mirrors.... can you do that ?
>
Try learning something. Can you do that?
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-17 09:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu2lnu$99g$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #601075 |
On 10/16/2016 12:47 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/15/2016 8:09 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: >>> "Serigo" wrote in message news:ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org... >>>> >>>> On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>> > >> >> I really don't care what you bozos say. You are obviously not in the >> business, I don't have time to educate you, but you can to it on your own. >> > > Or what your cites say. Or what the facts say. Or what reality says. > Poor troll. > >> >> Vacuum chambers use Torr to measure the quality of their vacuum, >> > > No, they use it to measure the PRESSURE. wrong. > >> >> Industrial vacuum chambers cover a vacuum range from atmosphere to 10^-3 >> Torr, >> > > So Mars pressure is 5000 times even a poor grade 'vacuum', since it's > around 5 torr. and earth is 720 torr, so there is NO AIR on MARS.
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-17 16:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ekna0chu9ethov2pi50al3gq129ul16gt1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #601253 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/16/2016 12:47 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/15/2016 8:09 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
>>>> "Serigo" wrote in message news:ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>
>>>
>>> I really don't care what you bozos say. You are obviously not in the
>>> business, I don't have time to educate you, but you can to it on your own.
>>>
>>
>> Or what your cites say. Or what the facts say. Or what reality says.
>> Poor troll.
>>
>>>
>>> Vacuum chambers use Torr to measure the quality of their vacuum,
>>>
>>
>> No, they use it to measure the PRESSURE.
>
>wrong.
>
You're an idiot.
>>
>>>
>>> Industrial vacuum chambers cover a vacuum range from atmosphere to 10^-3
>>> Torr,
>>>
>>
>> So Mars pressure is 5000 times even a poor grade 'vacuum', since it's
>> around 5 torr.
>
>and earth is 720 torr, so there is NO AIR on MARS.
>
No, idiot. Earth sea level is 760 torr. Congratulations. You just
asserted that 5==0.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 21:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <m6060cpahn0rim707311arl56qv0a3t75k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600998 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rong, it is not a true or false game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> wrong, pupa go google Torr
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr
>>>
>>> Torr is a measure of vacuum.
>>>
>>
>> No. The torr is a unit of PRESSURE.
>>
>
>WRONG, it is a measure of quality of vacuum, troll. I dont have time to
>educate you, besides you need to be cured of your meanness first, and
>you are too old, you do not have the capacity to learn new things anymore.
>
Wow, you're too stupid to bother with further. You're not even a GOOD
troll when you say things that are obviously and trivially wrong, like
the preceding.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1600@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-16 18:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2$XkKqVxq7AYFwvZ@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #600998 |
In rec.arts.sf.science message <ntthhg$rdu$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Sat, 15 Oct 2016 10:21:03, Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> posted: >On 10/15/2016 4:40 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> No. The torr is a unit of PRESSURE. > > >WRONG, it is a measure of quality of vacuum, troll. I dont have time >to educate you, besides you need to be cured of your meanness first, >and you are too old, you do not have the capacity to learn new things >anymore. Serigo, please read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torr , and search the Web for these two words : torr unit. -- (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ¬@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Merlyn Web Site < > - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.
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| From | Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-10-14 20:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ntrs1a$58o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #600710 |
On Oct/13/2016 at 10:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote : > Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: > >> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote: >>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >>>> it is still too costly, and there is no payoff, just rocks and sand in a >>>> vaccum >>>> >>> >>> We already established that your "rocks and sand in a vacuum" is >>> false. >>> >> >> rong, it is not a true or false game. >> > > Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't. > >> >> Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum. >> > > Not the definition of 'vacuum'. By your definition Creed, Colorado, > is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space > than it is to sea level. Of course Mars' atmosphere isn't a vacuum. But atmospheric pressure at Creede, Colorado is closer to 101.3 kPa than to 0. It is about 73kPa. Extremely few long term human settlements have existed high enough to be below half of atmospheric pressure at sea level. Only 6 mountains in North America are high enough to have an average pressure less than half of the average pressure at sea level. They are all in Alaska, Yukon and Mexico. And none are inhabited. Alain Fournier
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-15 04:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ti240ctl014s0vohij4b2nhr6l3k0e51f2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #600921 |
Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>On Oct/13/2016 at 10:53 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote :
>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2016 7:41 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> it is still too costly, and there is no payoff, just rocks and sand in a
>>>>> vaccum
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We already established that your "rocks and sand in a vacuum" is
>>>> false.
>>>>
>>>
>>> rong, it is not a true or false game.
>>>
>>
>> Of course it is. It's either a vacuum or it isn't.
>>
>>>
>>> Compaired to Earths atmosphere, Mars is more like outter space, a vacuum.
>>>
>>
>> Not the definition of 'vacuum'. By your definition Creed, Colorado,
>> is a 'vacuum', since the atmospheric pressure there is closer to space
>> than it is to sea level.
>
>Of course Mars' atmosphere isn't a vacuum. But atmospheric pressure at
>Creede, Colorado is closer to 101.3 kPa than to 0. It is about 73kPa.
>Extremely few long term human settlements have existed high enough to be
>below half of atmospheric pressure at sea level. Only 6 mountains in
>North America are high enough to have an average pressure less than half
>of the average pressure at sea level. They are all in Alaska, Yukon and
>Mexico. And none are inhabited.
>
Crap. The graph I looked at was in meters (and didn't label units) I
wish people wouldn't do that. I should have noticed, though, that the
pressure fall off was much too rapid, so my bad too.
OK, rewrite. Half the atmospheric pressure is gone at around 5500
meters above MSL (when compared to MSL pressure). That's about 18,000
feet. The city of La Rinconada in Peru is at 16,732 feet, so humans
can damn near live in vacuum. It's at around 55% sea level pressure.
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to
live in the real world."
-- Mary Shafer, NASA Dryden
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-10-17 09:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nu2mnh$ba4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600980 |
On 10/15/2016 6:00 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote: > Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> > Crap. The graph I looked at was in meters (and didn't label units) I > wish people wouldn't do that. I should have noticed, though, that the > pressure fall off was much too rapid, so my bad too. > > OK, rewrite. Half the atmospheric pressure is gone at around 5500 > meters above MSL (when compared to MSL pressure). That's about 18,000 > feet. The city of La Rinconada in Peru is at 16,732 feet, so humans > can damn near live in vacuum. It's at around 55% sea level pressure. > > Wrong again! but this time you are lying. "...so humans can damn near live in vacuum..." your own # say 8.1 psi which is NOT a vacuum, 400 torr is NOT a vacuum do you lie intentionally, or unintentionally ?
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| From | Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-17 16:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <usna0clo7utvdjag0802m9lfchce87s5gg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #601256 |
Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>On 10/15/2016 6:00 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Crap. The graph I looked at was in meters (and didn't label units) I
>> wish people wouldn't do that. I should have noticed, though, that the
>> pressure fall off was much too rapid, so my bad too.
>>
>> OK, rewrite. Half the atmospheric pressure is gone at around 5500
>> meters above MSL (when compared to MSL pressure). That's about 18,000
>> feet. The city of La Rinconada in Peru is at 16,732 feet, so humans
>> can damn near live in vacuum. It's at around 55% sea level pressure.
>>
>>
>
>Wrong again! but this time you are lying.
>
You're an idiot. I've decided that's all I'm going to say when you
insist that FACTS are somehow 'wrong'.
>
>"...so humans can damn near live in vacuum..."
>
>your own # say 8.1 psi which is NOT a vacuum,
>400 torr is NOT a vacuum
>
Which part of 'damn near' is it that you are finding confusing? Which
part of your own "if it's closer to space than Earth normal it's
'vacuum' are you ignoring?
>
>do you lie intentionally, or unintentionally ?
>
I'd ask if you were stupid intentionally, but I'm pretty sure it's
just great native talent.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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| From | Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 20:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ntmlaa$hlp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600633 |
On 10/12/2016 6:56 PM, Serigo wrote: > water is conjecter, not verified. Where have you been the last few years? The existence of water ice on Mars was proven conclusively by NASA's Phoenix Lander in 2008. The existence of flowing water on Mars might be considered a theory (although some pretty good evidence exists) but the presence of water ice is an established fact, and we know exactly where to go to find it. " 'It is with great pride and a lot of joy that I announce today that we have found proof that this hard bright material is really water ice and not some other substance,' said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson, during a Friday news briefing to announce the confirmation of water ice. " http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/news/phoenix-20080620.html
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| From | Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-12 21:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ntmr6j$nt7$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600648 |
On 10/12/2016 7:42 PM, Vaughn Simon wrote: > On 10/12/2016 6:56 PM, Serigo wrote: >> water is conjecter, not verified. > Where have you been the last few years? The existence of water ice on > Mars was proven conclusively by NASA's Phoenix Lander in 2008. The > existence of flowing water on Mars might be considered a theory > (although some pretty good evidence exists) but the presence of water > ice is an established fact, and we know exactly where to go to find it. > " 'It is with great pride and a lot of joy that I announce today that we > have found proof that this hard bright material is really water ice and > not some other substance,' said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter > Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson, during a Friday news > briefing to announce the confirmation of water ice. " > > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/news/phoenix-20080620.html > still only observational, could be CO2, they have wished it was water those are pictures of something that may have evaporated or covered by dust or removed by the wind. it was not a chemical test.
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| From | Vaughn Simon <vaughnsimon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-10-13 09:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nto2o0$om2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #600659 |
On 10/12/2016 10:23 PM, Serigo wrote: > still only observational, could be CO2, Read the cite! "He said the disappearing chunks could not have been carbon-dioxide ice at the local temperatures because that material would not have been stable for even one day as a solid." Or go find your own cite, there are many. If you choose not to believe established science, that's certainly your right Sergio. Some folks still insist that the earth is flat. Vaughn
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