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  Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 17:56 -0500
    Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-11 23:09 +0000
      Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 00:10 -0400
        Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-12 06:21 +0000
          Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 13:11 -0500
            Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-12 18:28 +0000
          Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 13:21 -0500
            Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-12 18:44 +0000
          Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 13:27 -0500
            Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-12 18:47 +0000
          Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 13:30 -0500
            Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-12 18:50 +0000
          Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 23:13 -0400
    Re: Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-09-12 13:28 -0500

#520403 — Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control

Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control
> http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2014/malaria.jpg
> http://phys.org/news/2015-09-electrostatic-netting-world-malaria-vector.html


> (Phys.org)—Mosquito-borne infectious diseases are a huge public
> health burden, which carry high human and economic costs. Malaria,
> Chikungunya, West Nile virus and dengue are difficult to treat, and
> controlling the disease vector—mosquitos—is imperative.

> The WHO recommends the use of four classes of public health
> insecticides, but widespread use has inevitably resulted in the
> development of insecticide-resistant mosquitos. Additionally, larval
> exposure to low residual doses of agricultural insecticide has been a
> major driver of resistance in mosquitos. Thus, the WHO advises health
> officials to rotate the use of both agricultural and vector-targeting
> insecticides to assert control over the expression of resistant
> genes.

> Nonetheless, conventional methods of mosquito control are becoming
> less effective over time, and researchers seek alternatives to
> existing techniques in an effort to stay one step ahead of
> adaptation. Now, a group of health and ecological science researchers
> in Johannesburg, South Africa, and Liverpool, England, have reported
> in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences the use of an
> electrostatic coating that binds insecticide particles.


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#520415

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control

DDT.


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#520445

On 09/11/2015 07:09 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control
>
> DDT.

jimp, Oh my! Don't you know DDT is not 'green"? Haven't you heard how 
important it is to let Third world children die rather than have some 
nonsense problem with bird eggs? Birds have rights too! Just ask the Asshat.

You do understand the DDT is one of the safer pesticides out there, and 
the problems only arose because of chemical companies selling the hell 
out of it by TONS to farmers. Even so no children died from DDT while 
millions die because DDT is not allowed! Typical Lib political thinking 
(or non-thinking as case may be)

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#520478

benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/11/2015 07:09 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control
>>
>> DDT.
> 
> jimp, Oh my! Don't you know DDT is not 'green"? Haven't you heard how 
> important it is to let Third world children die rather than have some 
> nonsense problem with bird eggs? Birds have rights too! Just ask the Asshat.

I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited;
it seems that in the studies that found thin shells the birds were being
fed a calcium deficient diet.


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Jim Pennino

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#520504

On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited

   Somebody, maybe jimp, pulled the wool of the jimp's eyes.  :-o

   DDT and Birds (Stanford University)
> http://web.stanford.edu/group/stanfordbirds/text/essays/DDT_and_Birds.html

> Unfortunately, however, DDT has recently started to become more
> common in the environment again; its concentration in the tissues of
> starlings in Arizona and New Mexico, for example, has been
> increasing. While the source of that DDT is disputed, what is certain
> is that DDT has been shown to be present as a contaminant in the
> widely used toxin dicofol (a key ingredient in, among others, the
> pesticide Kelthane). Dicofol is a chemical formed by adding single
> oxygen atoms to DDT molecules. Unhappily, not all the DDT gets
> oxygenated, so that sometimes dicofol is contaminated with as much as
> 15 percent DDT
>
> Overall, the 2.5 million pounds of dicofol used annually in
> pesticides contain about 250 thousand pounds of DDT. In addition,
> little is known about the breakdown products of dicofol itself, which
> may include DDE, a breakdown product of DDT identified as the major
> cause of reproductive failure in several bird species. Finally, DDT
> itself may still be in use illegally in some areas of the United
> States, and migratory birds such as the Black-crowned Night-Heron may
> be picking up DDT in their tropical wintering grounds (where DDT
> application is still permitted). Unhappily tropical countries are
> becoming dumping grounds for unsafe pesticides that are now banned in
> the United States. As the end of the century approaches, the once
> hopeful trend may be reversing, so that DDT and other pesticides
> continue to hang as a heavy shadow over many bird populations.

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#520510

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited
> 
>   Somebody, maybe jimp, pulled the wool of the jimp's eyes.  :-o

Your cut and paste does not address the alleged thinning of egg shells,
you spamming piece of shit.


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Jim Pennino

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#520505

On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited

   Review for the jimp | DDT
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT

> DDT is toxic to a wide range of living organisms, including marine
> animals such as crayfish, daphnids, sea shrimp and many species of
> fish. DDT, through its metabolite DDE
> (dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene), caused eggshell thinning and
> resulted in severe population declines in multiple North American and
> European bird of prey species.[52] Eggshell thinning lowers the
> reproductive rate of certain bird species by causing egg breakage and
> embryo deaths. DDE related eggshell thinning is considered a major
> reason for the decline of the bald eagle,[11] brown pelican,[53]
> peregrine falcon, and osprey.[1] However, different groups of birds
> vary greatly in their sensitivity to these chemicals.[5] Birds of
> prey, waterfowl, and song birds are more susceptible to eggshell
> thinning than chickens and related species, and DDE appears to be
> more potent than DDT.[1] Even in 2010, more than forty years after
> the U.S. ban, California condors which feed on sea lions at Big Sur
> which in turn feed in the Palos Verdes Shelf area of the Montrose
> Chemical Superfund site seemed to be having continued thin-shell
> problems. Scientists with the Ventana Wildlife Society and others are
> intensifying studies and remediations of the condors' problems.[54]
>
> The biological thinning mechanism is not entirely known, but there is
> strong evidence that p,p'-DDE inhibits calcium ATPase in the membrane
> of the shell gland and reduces the transport of calcium carbonate
> from blood into the eggshell gland. This results in a dose-dependent
> thickness reduction.[1][55][56][57] There is also evidence that
> o,p'-DDT disrupts female reproductive tract development, impairing
> eggshell quality later.[58] Multiple mechanisms may be at work, or
> different mechanisms may operate in different species.[1] Some
> studies show that although DDE levels have fallen dramatically,
> eggshell thickness remains 10–12 percent thinner than before DDT was
> first used.



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#520512

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited
> 
>   Review for the jimp | DDT

>> The biological thinning mechanism is not entirely known, but there is

Yes, it is, spamming shit head.

Real controlled studies showed the vast majority of any thinning was
the idiots in charge of the original studies, still being quoted by
shit heads like you, were feeding the subject birds a diet deficient
in calcium.

DDT is still the only effective defense against malaria in the third
world and is still banned, but I know you don't care about dead brown
babies, do you shit head?

"Rachel Carson was a puke, an anxious nasty misanthrope who blamed chemicals
or harming nature.  She is personally responsible for the deaths of millions."


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Jim Pennino

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#520506

On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited


DDT Still Killing Birds in Michigan
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ddt-still-killing-birds-in-michigan/

> DDT poisoning of birds is extremely rare, although traces of the
> persistent pesticide remain in people and wildlife worldwide.
>
> “I’ve never seen anything like it. When people told me about it I
> didn’t believe it. And then we ran these tests. These are some of the
> highest-ever recorded levels in wild birds,” said Matt Zwiernik, an
> assistant professor of environmental toxicology at Michigan State
> University who led the testing.
>
> The birds’ brains contained concentrations of DDE, a breakdown
> product of DDT, ranging from 155 to 1,043 parts per million, with an
> average of 552.  “Thirty [parts per million] in the brain is the
> threshold for acute death,” Zwiernik said. “All the birds exceeded
> that by at least two- or three-fold, and many by much more than
> that.” Twelve of the 29 birds had brain lesions or liver
> abnormalities.
>
> The culprit is a toxic mess left behind by Velsicol Chemical Corp.,
> formerly Michigan Chemical, which manufactured pesticides until 1963,
> a year after Rachel Carson’s book Silent Spring exposed the hazards
> of DDT to people and wildlife, especially birds. Populations of bald
> eagles and other birds crashed when DDT thinned their eggs, killing
> their embryos.  The pesticide, known for accumulating in food webs
> and persisting in soil and river sediment, was banned in the United
> States in 1972.
>
> The nine-block neighborhood has become a real-life example of
> Carson’s “Fable for Tomorrow” in Silent Spring. “It was a spring
> without voices. On the mornings that had once throbbed with the dawn
> chorus of robins, catbirds, doves, jays, wrens, and scores of other
> bird voices there was now no sound; only silence lay over the fields
> and woods and marsh,” Carson wrote.
>



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#520517

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited
 
 
>> The nine-block neighborhood has become a real-life example of
>> Carson?s ?Fable for Tomorrow? in Silent Spring. ?It was a spring
>> without voices. On the mornings that had once throbbed with the dawn
>> chorus of robins, catbirds, doves, jays, wrens, and scores of other
>> bird voices there was now no sound; only silence lay over the fields
>> and woods and marsh,? Carson wrote.

"The raw emotion created by Rachel Carson's fallacious diatribe in her
successful 'science fiction' book Silent Spring against chemical
pesticides is long past, and any honest scientific effort to revisit
all these laws and regulations used since 1972 to eliminate these life
saving products from the marketplace would devastate their movement. 
Carson's claim about how the poor robin was going to disappear was not
only wrong she was deliberately lying.  The claims about bird shell
thinning was a lie based on studies that deliberately eliminated calcium
from the test bird's diets.  Carson had to know all of that and
deliberately lied."


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Jim Pennino

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#520509

On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited


   DDT and other Organochlorine Insecticides
> http://www.fws.gov/contaminants/Info/DDT.html

> The tendency of DDT and other organochlorines to concentrate in the
> fat of humans, livestock, and wildlife contributes to its ability to
> adversely affect organisms (7). In particular, greater accumulation
> in species higher on the food chain, known as biomagnification, has
> resulted in severe adverse effects on many forms of wildlife,
> especially predatory species (1). DDT was a major reason for the
> declines of the bald eagle, brown pelican, and peregrine falcon in
> North America (1). Exposure to DDT and its metabolites (breakdown
> products), DDD and DDE, can cause direct mortality to individuals, or
> result in sublethal effects that can interfere with the ability to
> survive or reproduce (8). Experimental studies showed that DDE in
> particular was responsible for effects to reproduction such as embryo
> toxicity and eggshell thinning (1). DDT is also highly toxic to
> aquatic life, including crayfish, daphnids, sea shrimp and many
> species of fish (9). DDT may be moderately toxic to some amphibian
> species, especially in the larval stages (10).
>
> The Service was heavily involved in studying the effects of DDT on
> fish and wildlife, a process which began shortly after the chemical
> came into use as a pesticide (see US Fish and Wildlife Service
> Historic News Releases - DDT). By 1945, the Service determined that
> DDT is "Capable of Considerable Damage to Wildlife, Beneficial
> Insects, and Indirectly to Crops" (see News Release of August 22,
> 1945.pdf file]).



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#520518

Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/12/15 1:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited
> 
> 
>   DDT 


"I would like to give just one chemophobe an opportunity to have their
child suffer one day of malaria. It would be a moment of discovery and
then i would refuse to recognize their suffering for their child and
tell them some stupid Rachel Carson story about her courage and
eloquence trying to save? What? RACHEL CARSON WAS A LYING FEMALE JACKAL.
All Rachel Cason is can be summed up - a paranoid, lying chemophobe
who paved the way for killing millions of innoncents. Shame on her and
her despicable supporters."


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#520607

On 09/12/2015 02:21 AM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> benj <nobody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 09/11/2015 07:09 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control
>>>
>>> DDT.
>>
>> jimp, Oh my! Don't you know DDT is not 'green"? Haven't you heard how
>> important it is to let Third world children die rather than have some
>> nonsense problem with bird eggs? Birds have rights too! Just ask the Asshat.
>
> I thought everyone knew by now the crap about bird eggs was discredited;
> it seems that in the studies that found thin shells the birds were being
> fed a calcium deficient diet.
>
Discredited, sure, but still repeated over and over as gospel by Lib 
media. DDT is still banned while Third World kids die and even closer to 
home our state has a MAJOR infestation of bed bugs. It seems that only 
DDT kills their eggs, but it's banned so a problem that was solved years 
ago has returned thanks to bird-huggers. I hear that in New Yawk City 
the problem is so bad apartment dwellers who have not been able to kill 
the bugs are hiring backdoor chemists to whip up some bathtub DDT for them!

No doubt Asshat is strongly for keeping DDT banned no matter how many 
kids die.

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#520508

On 9/11/2015 5:56 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> Electrostatic netting opens a whole new world of malaria vector control

<snip obvious>

yep, Bug Zappers...........   zzzzzziiiitttttt!!!!!!!..........

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